The Sovereign Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) I got my copy today and I had asked for a new piece of information about the Diagram that is important to the Cosmere. Edited November 26, 2016 by Iron Eyes 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Huh. This is... ambiguous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtuousTraveller Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Where did you order this from? Is Brandon signing all of the pre-orders like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Arum Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, VirtuousTraveller said: Where did you order this from? Is Brandon signing all of the pre-orders like this? This is probably one of the books ordered from Brandon's website and shipped via Wellers Book Works out of Salt Lake City, Utah. Any other pre-ordered book (like from Amazon) will not include numbers or signatures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirtuousTraveller Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Titan Arum said: This is probably one of the books ordered from Brandon's website and shipped via Wellers Book Works out of Salt Lake City, Utah. Any other pre-ordered book (like from Amazon) will not include numbers or signatures. I ordered one of the BYU bookstore "signed and numbered" books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djarskublar Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 That's... Scary. The fact that I have no idea what it could mean is awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Arum Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 8 minutes ago, VirtuousTraveller said: I ordered one of the BYU bookstore "signed and numbered" books. Yours will probably be just signed and numbered if you didn't put anything in the personalization field. If you go to a signing, maybe you can ask him a question and he can write the answer in the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Hm... Could what he wrote be a reference to a particular verse in the diagram, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted November 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Argent said: Huh. This is... ambiguous. Indeed, I'm most interested in that Dalinar's role is considered important to the Cosmere rather than just Roshar, although that isn't too surprising considering Odium. 30 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said: Hm... Could what he wrote be a reference to a particular verse in the diagram, perhaps? I suspect it is indeed, giving the nature of what we do know from the Diagram a contingency plan being included seems likely. 2 hours ago, VirtuousTraveller said: Where did you order this from? Is Brandon signing all of the pre-orders like this? 1 hour ago, Titan Arum said: This is probably one of the books ordered from Brandon's website and shipped via Wellers Book Works out of Salt Lake City, Utah. Any other pre-ordered book (like from Amazon) will not include numbers or signatures. @Titan Arum is correct this is from Weller via Brandon's website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 This looks like it could be a direct line from the Diagram, possibly a follow-up to one we've seen in the WoR text. We'll see if we get more Diagram notes in Oathbringer. Here's the Diagram epigraph that it's most likely referring to: Quote Chaos in Alethkar is, of course, inevitable. Watch carefully, and do not let power in the kingdom solidify. The Blackthorne could become an ally or our greatest foe, depending on whether he takes the path of the warlord or not. If he seems likely to sue for peace, assassinate him expeditiously. The risk of competition is too great. Writings upon the Bedstand Lamp: Paragraph 4. (Adrotagia’s 3rd translation from the original hieroglyphics.) The Diagram calls for the assassination of Dalinar to prevent Alethkar from uniting. If they can't kill him, they'll need to do something else to fracture the nation, something much more extreme. I wouldn't necessarily call it a 'contingency plan,' since the Diagram already presents two 'branches,' one where Dalinar tries to unite Alethkar, one where he doesn't. This sounds like a further branch of the first path, but one where Dalinar lives. Which is a little hopeful, since from the info in WoR either Dalinar would have to die or Taravingian would have to deviate from the Diagram, and now here's an option where neither happens. But at what cost? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Well he wouldn't have gone for a plan necessitating the assassination of Dalinar if the alternative wasn't infinitely worse . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 59 minutes ago, natc said: Well he wouldn't have gone for a plan necessitating the assassination of Dalinar if the alternative wasn't infinitely worse . . . Yes, but I suppose it's depend of "worse from what point of view". For example, for the Alethi's culture dies fighting aganist a powerful enemy (Szeth) would be better than (for example) loses the reputation. In this context, sends a killing machine to murder you is a nice present to avoid to make you lose your reputation (and for example people like Sadeas would agree with this). Edited November 23, 2016 by Yata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Pardon my ignorance if this is just something Sanderson does in signing... But could that numbering thing next to his signature be a direct reference to part of the diagram? Also On 11/21/2016 at 1:42 PM, Pagerunner said: This looks like it could be a direct line from the Diagram, possibly a follow-up to one we've seen in the WoR text. We'll see if we get more Diagram notes in Oathbringer. Here's the Diagram epigraph that it's most likely referring to: The Diagram calls for the assassination of Dalinar to prevent Alethkar from uniting. If they can't kill him, they'll need to do something else to fracture the nation, something much more extreme. I wouldn't necessarily call it a 'contingency plan,' since the Diagram already presents two 'branches,' one where Dalinar tries to unite Alethkar, one where he doesn't. This sounds like a further branch of the first path, but one where Dalinar lives. Which is a little hopeful, since from the info in WoR either Dalinar would have to die or Taravingian would have to deviate from the Diagram, and now here's an option where neither happens. But at what cost? I think you are thinking along the right lines here... When we read words of radiance it was great to see Kaladin save Dalinar... But the implications are a little bit dangerous. Taravangian now is placed in a very hard position. The diagram told him to do something... And he couldn't carry it out. That we know of, the diagram doesn't specify what to do in the event that the assassination failed. Furthermore, Szeth is now turned against Taravangian (although, for the time being, he will be occupied by the stone shamans). In short, things are looking pretty bad for Taravangian right now... But he also happens to be gifted with extraordinary prescience and rules multiple kingdoms at this point. He's desperate, but still dangerous and by no means defeated. His next move will be extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Drake Marshall said: Pardon my ignorance if this is just something Sanderson does in signing... But could that numbering thing next to his signature be a direct reference to part of the diagram? No, this is just the usual number of the book. At releases (and copies from Wellers), the books are numbered so that they are a bit more special than regular signed books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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