STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Each faction has a doc together, with the exception of the Monarchists Found on page 3 of the LG27 thread. I mean if you wanna lynch someone not in your faction you should at least know the rules. Nyali It's obvious you're not in my faction, otherwise I'd be telling you in the faction doc that does exist that it's a stupid vote, and tbh unless someone knows a confirmed Monarch then I just want to lynch someone that doesn't even do faction lynches the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyali Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I'm not a monarchist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Alright, I'm still gonna vote for you. You're not in my faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magestar Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 5 minutes ago, STINK said: Alright, I'm still gonna vote for you. You're not in my faction. This is a poor outlook for a faction game. Killing people just because they are not in your faction is bad for alliances, and in a game where you instantly know who is and who is not in your faction, randomly killing people doesn't make you look all that appealing. You have to show you are worth something to people from other factions. 1 hour ago, STINK said: It's obvious you're not in my faction, otherwise I'd be telling you in the faction doc that does exist that it's a stupid vote, and tbh unless someone knows a confirmed Monarch then I just want to lynch someone that doesn't even do faction lynches the right way. Ouch. Telling someone how they should play the game is also not that great of a move. Stink, I don't like how you're looking right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Mhm, at least you're reasoning for the vote isn't 'lets pretend this bit of the rules doesn't exist and we'll all just be paranoid', instead it's just 'lets be paranoid of STINK '. Just because I don't like the faction that has Mage and Nyali in doesn't mean I hate all factions. I've just said that it's obviously someone from another faction or a monarch, and I don't know monarchs so Nyali it is. Nothing to do with alliances there at all, it's a basic thing to do with factions. So if you wanna try and counter lynch me, go ahead, but please try and come up with more reasoning than 'STINK is a threat to all factions ' cause I'm just one guy voting lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonko the Sane Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I promised a vote on Yafeshan for inactivity, so here it is. Yafeshan, where are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magestar Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, STINK said: Just because I don't like the faction that has Mage and Nyali in doesn't mean I hate all factions. This is a bit of flawed reasoning, because, unless Nyali has somehow missed access to the Doc, (which would make sense considering the things she has said) We're not in the same faction either. And what good reason is there for disliking "our" faction? 1 hour ago, STINK said: So if you wanna try and counter lynch me, go ahead, but please try and come up with more reasoning than 'STINK is a threat to all factions ' cause I'm just one guy voting lol Don't flatter yourself. My reasoning is more along the lines of 'STINK is being generally unhelpful, in a game where everything is what you can do for people'. In a faction game, no one has a good reason to let you live if you're not in there faction. So, you have to provide one. You have done the opposite, and while I could care less whether or not Nyali dies, you show a careless, me first attitude, which makes me want to kill you. And, because you're not in my faction, I have no reason to see you live. In a way, my reasoning for lynching you is built in a similar way to yours, with one difference; I, instead of not caring if you live, actually would like to see you die. On another note, it's really hard to argue with you. You're combination of jokingly shrugging things off, twisting meanings, and occasionally using poignant arguments is rather difficult to combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Magestar said: This is a bit of flawed reasoning, because, unless Nyali has somehow missed access to the Doc, (which would make sense considering the things she has said) We're not in the same faction either. And what good reason is there for disliking "our" faction? Sorry, I generally assume that people will click the doc link in their GM PM, and not vote for someone about 'having a doc' when they've already been told that everyone has a doc. Was it Wonko that said that? Probably, but I just basically said it again. Also you're not in the same faction? Huh, then that makes two people from two different factions vote for Araris, all because he said he was in a doc? And because he said what everyone was thinking? Well now if someone from the third faction could contact me then I'd absolutely love that, we could all have a lil' representative thing in thread. The good reason for disliking "your" faction is that it's D2 and you're voting for someone based on the reasoning that makes no sense. Don't know about anyone else, but I'd want allies to be a bit more logical, or at least know the rules. 15 minutes ago, Magestar said: Don't flatter yourself. My reasoning is more along the lines of 'STINK is being generally unhelpful, in a game where everything is what you can do for people'. 'In a game where everything is about how long before you betray allies if you pretend that you wanna be really helpful and seek allies'. I just can't be bothered to try and open PMs with peeps, go through the whole 'oh what are you' thing, then be like 'you could be a monarch!', then the 'who is in your faction as well', when instead I can just say that if you make logical sense and work against the Monarchs, I'll be cool with you. 'Cause AFAIK, acting logical will certainly help catch the Monarchs more than just throwing around random votes. Also I'm being generally unhelpful? Because I voted on Nyali? The person not in your faction? You certainly want to defend her. Or do you have a reason like mine where there's something in the rules I don't understand? 18 minutes ago, Magestar said: So, you have to provide one. You have done the opposite, and while I could care less whether or not Nyali dies, you show a careless, me first attitude, which makes me want to kill you. Oh, you don't care about Nyali at all. It's just how you're starting this STINK lynch thing. Cool. So, I'm showing a careless, me first attitude. Well let me tell ya something Mage, everyone has a 'me first attitude', there's just people that will pretend they don't have it until they stab you and you can't complain because you are dead. Maybe you wanting to kill me is a 'me first attitude', who knows? Also I'm being careless? Please explain how, I'd love to improve on this in further games. 21 minutes ago, Magestar said: And, because you're not in my faction, I have no reason to see you live. Woah, that's a 'me first attitude'. Can't have that now, can we? What if I wanted to ally with your faction? Geez Mage, no-one is going to look at this and think that you're good ally material. 21 minutes ago, Magestar said: In a way, my reasoning for lynching you is built in a similar way to yours, with one difference; I, instead of not caring if you live, actually would like to see you die. So you want my death more actively than I would want Nyali's? Well that certainly is a 'me first attitude' in my books. So uh, right now you're showing a careless, me first attitude, which doesn't make me want to kill you but makes me wonder if you're just a Monarch that really wants the first person to actually speak in thread about killing them dead, which isn't cool. Hey this is kinda long isn't it? Ah well, wonder what kinds of interpretations could even be made from this post! I'm sure there's a double meaning somewhere! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I think I'm going to have to agree with STINK here, insofar as voting for me being in a faction and having a doc is kind of a horrible reason, since that is literally every person that isn't a monarchist, and the monarchists are the fellows I don't really want running around. So Nyali. Edited October 25, 2016 by Araris Valerian Greening vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Mage where'd you go You were the active one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyali Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I guess I misunderstood something about the format of this game. I have literally no faction, no doc, no special actions, and one simple goal that doesn't involve hurting anyone or even interfering with anyone. I just find games with no votes or kills boring, so I voted for someone. Feel free to kill me though - I seriously don't mind. I can still win if dead, and I can't do a thing to further my goal while alive anyway. Faction games where you aren't a member of a faction are really kinda unfortunate =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aonar Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Nyali. If you're telling the truth, you're either the Unlicensed Thief, Dribbler, or the Clacks/Post Master (or the Monarch). Nothing there I'm particularly against killing, and a few that would be rather beneficial, I'm thinking, to both myself and most others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid King Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Nyali says she has no special actions. I would assume that mean's she's not the unlicensed thief. She also said that she can win even if dead, which means that she's not the Monarch or Dibbler. Dalinar's the Patrician, which means that Nyali's either the Postmaster or the Clacks Master. If the postmaster dies, messages cost 20p more. If the Clacks Master dies, messages can only be sent at night. I don't particularly care for either of those, so I'm gonna vote for Araris to try and even things up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Lol. Doesn't think that one person up for the lynch is good so just votes for the other one with a vote? When we're not even halfway through the cycle? Come on PK, surely you could put a vote on someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonko the Sane Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 All right, since Stink is clearly in a faction with Araris, why don't you come join me in lynching Yafeshan, guys? I also want Nyali to keep breathing, and everyone can agree that inactivity is bad, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Wonko the Sane said: All right, since Stink is clearly in a faction with Araris, Lol you wish, do I need to say why I'm lynching Nyali again? Or do we not read posts anymore *Insert 'me first attitude' thing* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magestar Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 hours ago, STINK said: Mage where'd you go You were the active one! I'M BAA-CK!!! 2 hours ago, STINK said: 'In a game where everything is about how long before you betray allies if you pretend that you wanna be really helpful and seek allies'. True. But it's more helpful if we all pretend everyone actually want's to be allies. 20 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said: All right, since Stink is clearly in a faction with Araris, why don't you come join me in lynching Yafeshan, guys? 18 minutes ago, STINK said: Lol you wish, do I need to say why I'm lynching Nyali again? This is like the same thing you did to me and Nyali. I'm having trouble getting my brain to wrap around what's going on here, and this game feels heavily as though everyone is going to act like we are actually in Discworld. I'm going to need some Narativium and puns. 2 hours ago, STINK said: So uh, right now you're showing a careless, me first attitude, which doesn't make me want to kill you but makes me wonder if you're just a Monarch that really wants the first person to actually speak in thread about killing them dead, which isn't cool. This sentence is making my head hurt. Btw, it's hard to argue with someone who finds everything your argueing against in your arguement. I thought I had STINK-Proofed my arguement, but I was wrong. 2 hours ago, STINK said: You certainly want to defend her. Or do you have a reason like mine where there's something in the rules I don't understand? Actually, I wanted to attack you. Part of it may or may not have been wanting to spar again after LG26. I'm pretty sure you didn't make any mistakes as far as the rules go. Also, your playstyle tends to make me want to lynch you. Nothing you can do about that. 2 hours ago, STINK said: Woah, that's a 'me first attitude'. Can't have that now, can we? What if I wanted to ally with your faction? Geez Mage, no-one is going to look at this and think that you're good ally material. I was attempting to make fun of what you were saying. The point was that I was showing you how what you did looked... Instead you mocked what I was saying to you, because I did the same thing, even though I was only doing the same thing to mock what you were doing. -sigh- I've decided that I'll miss STINK in this game if I kill him, so, Araris. 2 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: insofar as voting for me being in a faction and having a doc is kind of a horrible reason, since that is literally every person that isn't a monarchist, and the monarchists are the fellows I don't really want running around I thought that the Monarchists were imbedded into each faction? K, I'm done. Feel free to twist my words and generally make me look either evil, stupid, or insane. I'm at least one of those half the time anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonko the Sane Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Stink, you're smart enough to know that that observation has nothing to do with Nyali. You didn't call for PK to switch to Nyali, you called for him to lynch anyone -- anyone at all -- other than Araris. What's so special about him that PK needs to move his vote? And for the record, "just voting for the other one with a vote" is exactly the right move if you want to prevent the leading lynch. The only reason you wouldn't do so is if you had some reason to want the second-placer alive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyali Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 I'm the master of the clacks. I don't really have anything to do, so I might as well claim. If you don't want to send messages during the day, go ahead and lynch me. I hate being independent in faction games, so I don't mind dying at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magestar Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Just now, Wonko the Sane said: Stink, you're smart enough to know that that observation has nothing to do with Nyali. You didn't call for PK to switch to Nyali, you called for him to lynch anyone -- anyone at all -- other than Araris. What's so special about him that PK needs to move his vote? And for the record, "just voting for the other one with a vote" is exactly the right move if you want to prevent the leading lynch. The only reason you wouldn't do so is if you had some reason to want the second-placer alive too. Wonko, I'd like to thank you for saying something logical and sensible, and seemingly un-twistable. 1 minute ago, Nyali said: I'm the master of the clacks. I don't really have anything to do, so I might as well claim. If you don't want to send messages during the day, go ahead and lynch me. I hate being independent in faction games, so I don't mind dying at all. Nyali, I'd like to thank you for deciding to give me a reason to no longer care who get's lynched today. -sigh- Araris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STINK Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Wonko the Sane said: Stink, you're smart enough to know that that observation has nothing to do with Nyali. You didn't call for PK to switch to Nyali, you called for him to lynch anyone -- anyone at all -- other than Araris. What's so special about him that PK needs to move his vote? The fact that the reasoning for the lynch on Araris right now actually consists of "is in a faction doc", which isn't even reasoning. I'm basically getting salty for Araris, cause even by faction game standards, it's just a dick move to be like 'here's my reasoning' that isn't even possible reasoning. 5 minutes ago, Magestar said: Part of it may or may not have been wanting to spar again after LG26. Lol. 2 minutes ago, Magestar said: Wonko, I'd like to thank you for saying something logical and sensible, and seemingly un-twistable. #TRIGGERED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonko the Sane Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Nyali said: I'm the master of the clacks. I don't really have anything to do, so I might as well claim. If you don't want to send messages during the day, go ahead and lynch me. I hate being independent in faction games, so I don't mind dying at all. Yeah, I think most of us had guessed. I'm torn on what to do. I understand why you aren't enjoying yourself, and I sincerely wish there was some way for me to make it better or end it. But on the other hand, losing the ability to send PMs during the day is a heavy loss. In the end, it's in my best interests to keep you alive. I hope you can understand that, and that your experience this game isn't too negative. I'm genuinely sorry for trying to keep you in a game that you clearly want out of. Can I get a vote tally from somebody? EDIT: I did it myself: Araris (2): Nyali, PK Nyali (3): Stink, Araris, Aonar Yafeshan (1): Wonko Stink, I agree that was a terrible excuse for why to lynch Araris. However, as Nyali admitted, that wasn't her actual motivation. She was just lynching to lynch. And, more relevantly, that wasn't why PK voted for him, and he never even claimed it was. Araris was simply the most lynchable target other than Nyali, and he wanted to keep Nyali alive. (Though, PK, I will point out that Yafeshan was and continues to be just as lynchable, and doesn't have any other players fighting to keep him alive). That reasoning is absolutely valid. Edited October 25, 2016 by Wonko the Sane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Okay, Nyali, that makes a bit more sense. Although I don't particularly like PMs as a matter of principle, so I might want you dead in any case. I'll agree with Wonko, and put my vote on Yafeshan for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverblade5 Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 Well, I'm in the same boat as Nyail. I'm the dribbler. Feel free to lynch me. If you want me to use my action on someone, feel free to shoot me a pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoid King Posted October 26, 2016 Report Share Posted October 26, 2016 3 hours ago, STINK said: Lol. Doesn't think that one person up for the lynch is good so just votes for the other one with a vote? When we're not even halfway through the cycle? Come on PK, surely you could put a vote on someone else. 2 hours ago, STINK said: Lol you wish, do I need to say why I'm lynching Nyali again? Or do we not read posts anymore 1 hour ago, STINK said: *Araris is voted on because he's not in the voters' faction* Lol. You keep on using that word. Either you are a very cheery person, or that word does not mean what you think it means. Also, you're grumpy because Araris was voted on for being in a faction. ...remind me again what's wrong with that? Quote: " the Monarchists are also mixed in with the other factions..." So you think that I should vote for Nyali, which will disrupt the clacks, rather than vote for Araris, a possible monarch. Stink, are you a monarch? You really must be, because that's what your playstyle shows. Lol. One more thing - If the monarchists are communicating with one another via clacks, they're easier to discover, due to clacks officers spying on the PMs. By lynching Nyali, you would cripple that method of discovery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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