Otto Didact Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I'm confused by how Bleeder could use Feruchemical Steel to shoot a bunch of people at Winsting Innate's auction. Sure, she'd be fast enough to run around the room and shoot at the criminals, but the gun wouldn't be mechanically able to fire, cock again, and fire again five times in the space of a second. I was really surprised when I read that. How did she do it? Did she have a bunch of guns? Does your steel speed extend to the stuff you're touching/using? Was it just a mistake? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I'm confused by how Bleeder could use Feruchemical Steel to shoot a bunch of people at Winsting Innate's auction. Sure, she'd be fast enough to run around the room and shoot at the criminals, but the gun wouldn't be mechanically able to fire, cock again, and fire again five times in the space of a second. I was really surprised when I read that. How did she do it? Did she have a bunch of guns? Does your steel speed extend to the stuff you're touching/using? Was it just a mistake? There is a whole thread on this. A point one person made is there are speed shooters in real life that can unload a sixshooter incredibly fast so it is not a stretch. I forgot the numbers to it though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Didact Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Ah, should have checked more thoroughly. Still though, it seems like the kind of thing that Wax/Brandon would make mention of in explaining what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Which quite a few people share your thoughts. It is in the thread asking why is feruchemical steel broken. Some of the responses pointed out that bleeder is a kandra, so was not subject to a lot of the limitations inherent to steel. Also others have posited that she might have been compounding to have as much as she did. Edited April 22, 2016 by Pathfinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 the post they are referring to is this one: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/48947-steelrunning-secondary-powers-what-kind-of-imbalanced-broken-power-is-that/page-5#entry390738 While there is good agrreement that Feruchemical steel is by far the most powerful single power to have - provided you can get enough charge, cause many in-world sources agree that it is difficult to store - and it has less limitations than it should (at the speed she was moving, bleeder should have slipped on the marble floor as if she was walking on ice), the gun scene is perfecty explained by nnormal physics. Sometimes regular humans without superpowers can do things that would seem ridiculous. On the same level, I discovered that the record speed with a bow was shoooting ten arrows in less than 6 seconds. With enough precision to hit a person from ten meters. About the charge issue, bleeder was probably half-compounding: real compounding requires burning a metalmind for power, and storing that power in another metalmind, then repeat the process to multiply your storage at will. This requires both abilities at the same time, so bleeder could not do it, but she could fill a metalmind and then get a coinshot spike and burn it. It would not give limitless supplies, but it would give you much more power than you started with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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