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Kenton and Khriss

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Hello, long time lurker first time poster in the forum. I was wondering if we had any evidence in the greater Cosmere that Kenton travels with Khriss or the Seventeenth shard. It seems like Kenton would be the kind of person to follow her where ever she goes due to the end of the novel, so if we don't have any evidence of Kenton worldhopping then that does not bode well him or their relationship. Thanks! 

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There's a street named Kenton Street in Mistborn 1. Make of that what you will.

 

You should be up to a shopping trip soon,” Renoux said, looking up at her. “Perhaps you would like to visit Kenton Street? Get some new earrings to replace that pedestrian stud you wear?”
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There's a street named Kenton Street in Mistborn 1. Make of that what you will.

Wow. Ok.

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That's very interesting, but I wonder why a first era Mistborn street would be named after him. Unless he somehow knew the Lord Ruler. The timelines would match up as White Sand seems to take place even before Elantris.

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Well, as I'm sure you know, Khriss writes the Ars Arcanum. The Ars arcanum in the back of The Final Empire was consistent with the general knowledge of the nobility of that time. Although it might just be Brandon keeping us in the dark, we can be reasonably sure that this means that Khriss (And/or Kenton) visited or will visit Scadrial around this time. 

 On a side note, if they were stranded there and Khriss got fat, I could see her as a sneaky-all-knowing court gossip(Kliss)

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Although it might just be Brandon keeping us in the dark, we can be reasonably sure that this means that Khriss (And/or Kenton) visited or will visit Scadrial around this time. 

Did you read Secret History?

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No, I haven't gotten around to it yet. I assume the answer is in there?

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No, I haven't gotten around to it yet. I assume the answer is in there?

 

Not to this question, but there is some relevant information. 

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Secret History is the answer to lots of questions. And asks a whole lot more. Cursed book.

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I really wish kenton becomes a world hopper. kenton and khriss romance is good :)

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It would be really fun to have a Sand Master pop in and make use of that easter egg sand mentioned in WoR.

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It would be really fun to have a Sand Master pop in and make use of that easter egg sand mentioned in WoR.

sorry, I must be missing something, what easter egg?

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In Mraize's collection of potentially cosmere-significant items, besides finding a silver knife and such, there is mention of pale sand. Always took it to be from Taldain.

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In Mraize's collection of potentially cosmere-significant items, besides finding a silver knife and such, there is mention of pale sand. Always took it to be from Taldain.

I had assumed that as well.

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And the fact that the sand is still pale on another planet is interesting, suggesting that it still has its investiture. Won't divert this topic though. Will post a new thread for discussion on this.

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Well it's likely that the sand never came in contact with water or was used. It probably can keep it's charge anywhere.

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I really wish kenton becomes a world hopper. kenton and khriss romance is good :)

 

I didn't like it. This is likely because Brandon was not skilled enough to sell it to me, but it felt super forced. Plus the slight hints at romance between Kaladin and Shallan in Words of Radiance are too similar to what we see between Kenton and Khriss - the jabs, the banter, even the personalities of the characters (to an extent). 

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One of my main issues with this entire draft, wonderful as it may be, was that the characters all seemed too similar to the characters in Stormlight or Elantris. With some differences, Kenton is Kaladin, Khriss is Shallan, Delious is Sebarial, Baon is Galladon (which is amusing considering that they appear together later), Vey is Roion, etc.

On 5/2/2016 at 7:44 AM, Argent said:

 

I didn't like it. This is likely because Brandon was not skilled enough to sell it to me, but it felt super forced. Plus the slight hints at romance between Kaladin and Shallan in Words of Radiance are too similar to what we see between Kenton and Khriss - the jabs, the banter, even the personalities of the characters (to an extent). 

Yep

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On 07/02/2017 at 11:48 AM, Releaser12 said:

One of my main issues with this entire draft, wonderful as it may be, was that the characters all seemed too similar to the characters in Stormlight or Elantris. With some differences, Kenton is Kaladin, Khriss is Shallan, Delious is Sebarial, Baon is Galladon (which is amusing considering that they appear together later), Vey is Roion, etc.

That seems like quite the stretch to me. The only one I would really agree with is the parallel between Delious and Sebarial, the rest share one or two similarities with their "counterparts"  but realistically most characters do; Harry Potter shares some personality traits with Kaladin, it doesn't mean they're similar. 

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Baon and Galladon? Really? 

I can't think of any way that those two characters are similar. 

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Indeed Baon and Galladon have nothing in common...really nothing (except the base stuff of be both humans and males)

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On 5/1/2016 at 3:49 AM, Lurky McLurkerson said:

In Mraize's collection of potentially cosmere-significant items, besides finding a silver knife and such, there is mention of pale sand. Always took it to be from Taldain.

Totally missed that! Wow!

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The sand is also mentioned in Oathbringer. And it's reacting to Shallan.

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Galladon is a laid-back guy, Baon is a serious guy. Kaladin's story is about his depression and guilt, Kenton is more trying to prove his worth and deciding to prove it to himself, instead, when everybody else dies (not because of him in any way). Is Dellous that drunk admiral? He has a common theme with Sebarial, but where Seb has obfuscating stupidity, a mistress, and just making rational decisions at all time instead of fighting, that guy has a mind game to win by really actually doing nothing at all except being pissed-out drunk until a critical moment.

If we're talking how they have a bit of similar traits, then there's a total of like, 10 characters in all known literature.The small helper girl in White Sand is more similar to Lift than your other examples are to each other.

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