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The white text he was referring to was him saying sorry for drugging me. As far as hidden mechanics, I did learn you can smuggle items into jail by voting for yourself.

I'm not Corrupt. Feel free to use a Ledger on me if you have any doubts, as otherwise I can't prove it. Given that I can't vote, I think it should be obvious that the win condition isnt tied to me, because what would be the point in a Senator turned Corrupt upon breaking out of jail if they can't use the trust to control the lynch?

From my perspective it's either Mark is evil or both Stink and Bugsy are. And I'd have to lean in the direction of it being Mark because he seems to be clutching at straws to prevent him from getting lynched and losing the game. I just think it's most likely that he planned to discover Orlok to make himself trusted and Stink look bad while he stabs Kynedath and Bugsy, only for that to be ruined by a Ledger.

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Either way I think this is the last turn. If Stink/Bugsy are evil then the Corrupt win. If it's Mark then the Senators do. For the record I have four boxings and am using three on Mark to make him vote on himself. Hope it will help.

Oh, and Mark, just because.

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Turn : There is no Senate.

“You have to stop them!” Patience held on to the former general’s shirt and shook him desperately.

“Matthew will be avenged. I regret the loss of life. But this is the only way to ensure the complete purification of the senate.”

“You’ve already cleansed the rusting senate! You’ve caught or killed all of us! Call him off!”

“Have I?” Yosef turned, idling forcing Palpatine’s hands off his shirt. “There can’t have only been two of you.”

“Alron murdered our allies. Michael, Chantelle and Luna. Than Cicero and I were caught.” He sank down, sitting at the small desk in Yosef’s cell. “I was willing to let you continue arresting innocents, because it was a small vengeance, but now, it will mean our deaths. Please Yosef, stop Biorney!”

Yosef sighed, and shook his head. “Biorney is not loyal to me. I did not have enough time. It was all I could do to turn him against the senate and give him the idea of Downfall, before Alron released him. I succeeded in turning him too much.”

There was a shouting from outside the cells. Yosef ignored it, but Patience stood up and ran from the room. The other arrested Senators were gathering at the gates of the cells. Cicero waved him over as he approached.

“The constables are gone Palpatine.”

“What?”

Cicero gestured out at the empty hallway, where half a dozen Constables had been on guard. “Constable Clancy came and grabbed them all, then they left. We don’t know why.”

Palpatine closed his eyes, and breathed in deeply. Once he had calmed down sufficiently, he opened his eyes and clapped once, to get everyone’s attention. “Ladies and Gentleman! Downfall procedure is in effect! The constables are gone, and I don’t know what will happen. I recommend you prepare to defend yourselves though. Nothing good can follow this.”



Constable-General Wilson strode through the halls towards the Senate Hall, seething at the stupidity of it all. She was quite tempted to simply have her four bodyguards arrest the last three senators and be done with it. It was unfortunate that the laws denied her that pleasure.

She almost envied Heatherlocke and Yosef. They had both been willing to compromise the laws in favor of doing what they thought was right. But then, hadn’t that been what had gotten them in this mess in the first place?

There was a wet thud from behind her, and something warm and wet hit her back. She whirled around fast enough to see a senator slam a constable baton into the side of Constable Wes’s head, dropping him next to Constable Aaron’s body. She unhooked her baton from her belt and stepped back, allowing Constables Drake and Rene to step forward in front of her.

“I’m dearly sorry about this Constables, but I left my matchbook and home, and need a spark. You understand, don’t you?”

Rene stepped forward, her baton held in a defensive position. “Senator Sanderson, stand down, or we will bring you down forcibly.”

Sanderson grinned, tilting his head to one side, and gestured them forward with his baton.

Rene swung low, Drake high, both aiming to cripple or kill him. Sanderson jumped backwards, dodging both blows, then dived forward as the two constable swung again. He rolled under their their twin blows, and swept his baton upwards into Drake’s chin as he stood.

Drake’s head snapped upward, his whole body following it a foot into the air before he smashed down onto the hallway.

Rene swore, but spun on his heel and slammed the baton towards Sanderson’s back. The man dodged sideways with inhuman agility, grabbing the baton with one hand and yanking it forward, driving Rene into Wilson. Both of them fell backwards, Wilson’s head cracking against the floor.

Wilson groaned, and shoved him off her before rolling to one side, trying to shake the dizziness away. She rubbed her eyes as she scooted away from where she knew the Senator to be. When she opened them she saw Senator Sanderson drive the baton into Rene’s skull, crushing it like a watermelon.

“That really was a waste of Constables. As I understand it, Just removing a third Constable-General in the same as is enough to put Downfall into effect.” Sanderson smirked as he knelt down and wiped the blood from his baton on Rene’s mostly clean uniform. He grabbed the man’s baton as he stood.

Wilson slowly got to her feet, gripping her one baton tightly. “Why, Biorney?”

“The senate is corrupt.” He raised a hand to forestall her objections. “And I don’t mean the senators who killed the Governor. The entire body is corrupt!”

“We can fix it without killing everyone!”

He stepped forward, and threw one of his batons overhand. It whistled through the air and smashed into her chest, driving the air from her lungs. She fell backwards, dropping her baton.

“This society was built on the blood and fire of the Survivor. It will be rebuilt on the blood and fire of the Martyr.” He crouched before her, grabbing her by the collar and lifter her to eye level. “Your death will be the spark I need to incite the people to destruction. I thank you for that, Constable Wilson. May your repose be peaceful.”

He drew back his baton once more, and swung one last time.



Rod and Abban stood tall, glaring down at Senator Monec. “We know it’s you Monec. We’ve both proven our innocence to each other. You don’t have a chance.”

Monec sighed. “Against two corrupt senators? You’re right. I don’t have a chance, you win.”

Rod grinned, and pointed down at him. “Constables! Take him away.”

Silence.

Monec raised an eyebrow, then glanced to the side. Rod and Abban followed his gaze, to where nearly a dozen senators were in a huddle, whispering frantically.

“Constables?”

The huddle of constables broke up, and they all ran out one of the side doors. One stopped and turned back to them. “Ya’ll might want to be careful. Maybe head on down to the holding cell before Clancy finished his speech.” He turned and followed the others.

Rod turned to his fellows. “Speech?”



“The Senate of Elendel has proven it’s corruption! Each and everyone of them have proven their contempt for the laws set down by the Lord Mistborn and Harmony in their pursuit of Power! They have murdered, bribed, stolen and poisoned their way to power, and we will not let it stand!”

Newly minted Constable-General Clancy of the First Octant stood on the steps of the Senate building, backed by the other seven generals. All stood stone faced, preparing themselves for a procedure that had been set down by the lord Mistborn himself.

“The Lord Mistborn decreed that the people should have the power to choose their own government, as well as end it as he himself did! Now is the time! We the people must make our will known! The liars and corrupt of this government must be put to the torch, and destroyed as the Lord Tyrant was in ages past!”

The people, gathered quickly by the other precinct offices, roared their approval.

“Go! Brothers and Sister in arms! Let the fires of justice cleanse this city!”

The crowd surged forward, wielding torches and tools with equal skill. They streamed through the doorways and into the building, lighting every piece of cloth or wood within reach. The flames grew hotter, until even stone burst with heat.

The constables stood vigil outside the building, making sure no senators escaped the carnage. 14 corpses, charred almost beyond recognition, were dragged from the building once the flames subsided.


The Corruption in the Senate had been purged.


Literally everyone died! The Game is a draw! No one won!
Amanuensis was a Senator turned Anarchist!
Stink, Bugsby and Mark were Senators!
Wilson was a Constable of the Law!

Complete Player List:

 

IrulelikeSTINK - Rod Clintham  Me.
Bugsby6912 - Abban Prodestum
Mark IV - Miotes Monec
Amanuensis - Biorney Sanderson
Curious Anamaximder - Naxia Venturus
Silverblade - Worge Gashington
Phattamer - Rodent Optimus
Clanky - Vupreme Sermin
Wonko the Sane - Dr. Nowko Lestibournes
Master Elodin - Alexandra Rotec
Kynedath - Declan Tynedell
ThatTinyStrawMan - Oromis
Adamair - Edris Calvert
Hellscythe - Ritt Momney
DeathClutch - Dyson Trump
Elbereth - Elentari
Mailliw - Liram
Alvron - Alron

TheMightyLopen - Senator Palpatine
Orlok - Cicero
Ripplgylf - Chantelle Lepinceau
Firemuffin - Michael Flop
LUNA - Luna Arryn
Yes, Alvron stabbed three Eliminators without knowing it.

 
The Corrupt Doc
The Master Spreadsheet

Thank you everyone for playing!
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Well, I probably could have won if I killed Bugsy instead of Heatherlocke and finished off Stink, assuming there was somehow a way that Mark could still get lynched with only Stink voting for him. Speaking of, how would that have worked, Joe? Would my vote have counted again, if they just ended up voting for each other? Or would it being a tie force a coin flip, even without four votes being placed? Regardless, I ultimately decided that it would be better if I instigated a draw rather than everyone lose but me, and I felt like taking the anarchy thing to an extreme.

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The Turn 9 Writeup that was never Posted:

Turn 9: Legality in the Senate

 

Senator Palpatine carefully organized his papers as his attempted Killer took the stand and testified against him.

 

“Yes, I tried to kill Senator Palpatine, I don’t deny that. But I find it increasingly suspicious that no one will fess up to saving him! And we all know that it was the same Dagger I used against him that was used against Nowko! I may have attempted to murder Palatine, but he successfully murdered Lestibournes! Just like he murdered Machmuller!”

 

There it was. Palpatine finished arranging his papers in his bag, then pulled one last sheet out. “You claim, Liram, that I should be jailed because my alleged crimes are greater than your confessed crimes? I have a list here, of crimes you have committed against members of this Senate. Witnesses as well, unlike you.”

 

“Read them then.”

 

Palpatine smirked, and placed his finger on the list. “Item one: Senator Ritt Momney accuses you of Perjury, Obstructing Justice and fabricating Evidence to get him arrested.”

 

Liram scowled, and raised a finger. “I deny all of those, Senator Oromis is to blame for all of those.”

 

“Of course, someone who cannot defend himself is to blame.” He moved his finger down and read again. Item two. Senator Dyson Trump accuses you of, why, the exact same crimes.”

 

Liram hesitated. “Well, in that case, I truly believed him to be corrupt there was quite a bit or circumstantial evidence against him. I regret my actions against him, but were I in the same position, I would repeat them.”

 

“Of course you would. Item three.” Palpatine grinned wide. “Senator Elentari. Would you care to guess what crimes she accuses you of?”

 

“Perjury, Obstructing Justice and Fabricating Evidence?”

 

“What metal are you burning that you can read my mind Senator?”

 

“Just get on with it.”

 

“Senator Elentari accuses you of the aforementioned crimes, and provides evidence for them. Senator Trump’s Lawyer, one Mr. Grisham, has looked over the evidence, and agrees that it is in fact forged, by yourself. Constable-General Heatherlocke agrees as well. What do you say to that.”

 

Liram bit his lip and shifted his weight from foot to foot. “I, well. The Ends justify the means! If getting two or three innocents arrested allows me to remove a corrupt senator, then it’s worthwhile!”

 

“What an absolutely pure and good argument. Does the end of gaining power justify the murder of Machmuller?”

 

“I didn’t murder Machmuller, you did!”

 

“Ahuh. “Item four, Governor—”

 

“Harmony! How many items are there?”

 

“Five. Item four. Governor Alron accuses you of bribery and theft against his person, in order to attempt the murder of myself.”

 

“All of this is just a smokescreen to hide your crimes! You—”

 

“Item five” Palpatine interrupted. “Senator Liram accuses you of attempted Murder against Senator Palpatine.” He lowered the paper, and talked in the way one might tell a child that he was being stupid. “That’s you and me, if you didn’t know.”

 

“Let’s just put it to the vote already Palpatine. I know you’re not planning on this evidence to sway our fellows anyway. You’re just putting on a show for the senators you haven’t bribed to vote for me.”

 

“I never bribed a senator Liram. Though I wonder why that springs to your mind so quickly. A guilty conscience perhaps?”

 

Bang!

 

Both senators jumped as the Governor banged his fist onto the desk. “Both of you be silent. You’ve both presented your evidence. Now it’s time to put it to the vote. Senators in favor of Liram’s arrest?”

 

Palpatine cast a lazy eye over the senate as the hands began to rise. One, two, three, and four. It disappointing number to be sure, but it would work.

 

“Right.” The hands went down. “And Senators in favor of Palpatine’s arrest?”

 

Palpatine glared as each senator rose their hand to be counted against him. One, two, three. . . and nothing.

 

“Very well then. Constable-General Heatherlocke, the Senate finds it likely that Senator Liram is one of the murderers of Governor Machmuller. Please, escort him to the Holding cells.”

 

“Everything I did, was for the good of the Senate, and the people of Elendel!” Liram shouted out as he was dragged away. “All of you would have done the same in my position! None of you can deny it!”

 

As the senator passed through the doors, they swung shut with a ponderous boom, marking the loss of yet another senator of the people.

Could one of the mods edit this into the correct post? Thank you very much.
 
While the game is still fresh, does anyone else feel like they didn't get the writeup they deserved? Feel like they got shifted with their fate and want more? Tell me! Post here or drop me a PM, and I'll happily write more for you! Either your death, or you killing someone, or anything else that hasn't been covered but you want to see.
 
Also, Links to docs have been added to the OP.
 
 
I am working on transcribing PM's, so that there will be a record of all the laughable shenanigans that happened behind the scenes. I will post a link to that once there's enough to justify it being there.
 
Without further ado, The Gm's Post game thoughts! (Not the final thoughts, because I might say more if I think of a way to articulate some nagging thoughts I have.)
 

 
Of the four games I've run, this was my favorite. It was the most balanced, and the least broken. I had a lot of fun running it, and From what I saw, people had a lot of fun playing or watching it. But it wasn't perfect.
 
1} If this game is to be rerun, the Governor needs to be changed. He's freaking OP. Once a confirmed senator became a Governor, he was nearly unkillable. The next iteration of this game needs to either remove the extra two votes, or the immunity. Or perhaps make the immunity have probabilities instead of certainties. Like, items have a 50% chance to fail against him, rather than 100%.
 
2} I've been waffling back and forth on the eliminator team's balance. Just two of them did really good without a group kill. They mad excellent use of their BoB's to use the lynch as a kill. Twice they nearly got everyone on the chopping block via ties. But, would they have been overpowered if all 5 of them had been active? I don't know. As it was, I think they should have started with more BoB's or Daggers. The vote to get your dagger rule really hurts the corrupt, but doesn't hurt the senators. I don't know. How would you guys have balanced the eliminators
 
3} Amanuensis the Anarchist. The jailbreak option was hidden in the mechanics since signups were posted, but originally, it didn't change alignment. Meta convinced me that it would be broken and needed to be changed, so working together, we came up with a Serial Killer esque role to throw a monkey wrench into the game. Amanuensis was given a police baton, which allowed him to make a kill every turn, as well as kill governors. I wouldn't change anything about this secret role at all.
 
4} Secret rules.
There were several. The most common was smuggling. If you voted for yourself when you got arrested, you got to keep your items. there were a lot of BoB's and items in prison because of people being bribed to vote for themself. That rule was necessary so that prisoners could get dagers, drugs or Warrants, which would allow them to get the Jail key from any of the constables.
The second was of course, the Constables. Why were they target able and lynch able? At first, they weren't. When the game started, you were only supposed to be able to target Heatherlocke, and only with a warrant. But as things developed, I went with what seemed funner, and what I thought the players wanted. Fully targetable spectators. Which was freaking hilarious.
The third was of course, the Jailbreak. If you kill/drug/warrant a constable, you can break a player out of jail. But that player becomes the Anarchist who wants to kill or arrest everyone save himself and the constables. . . Amanuensis didn't want to win without his team though. Not what I would have done, but that's his choice.
 
Which brings me to 5}
I DO NOT MATTER. I mentioned in the Jail doc that I didn't want Downfall to happen. Amanuensis saw that, and apologized. I kind of got mad at him. These games are run for the players. You guys get to decide what happens. If the GM doesn't like it, the GM has to roll with it anyway. Don't be afraid to use the rules to go against the GM's wishes. You are the player. The GM wins no matter what. You can do what you want. If the GM doesn't like it, go tell her to write a fanfiction instead of running an RP.
 
6} Meta brought up the fact that I run these games fast and loose, with an emphasis on fun and exciting. I am willing to introduce new rules at any point in the game, as I did with jail visitation, if I think it sounds fun and balanced. My ultimate goal is for everyone to have fun, even if they lose. I'd rather have a fun loss than a boring victory. But, do you guys enjoy that style of GM'ing, or should I run the games more orderly next time?
 
7} For the next couple of games, everyone will spend day 1 trying to lynch the Gm or spectators, just to see if it's possible. It will be hilarious.
 
8} Just so you guys know, Unless stated otherwise, all my games will have secret rules.
 
9} Throughout the Docs, I've left a bunch of game ideas. Feel free to adopt them, change them, or run them. I make and run the games I really want to play, so It would excite me to no end if someone develops and runs a game I made.
 
10} This is kind of whiny, and dumb, but i want to say it for the other GM's like me. I got kind of depressed mid way through the game, because of my writeups. No one was saying anything about them. Sure I was getting upvotes, but no one signified that they actually enjoyed the, The first time someone said They liked a writeup, I was over the moon. There are lots of GM's who put a lot of effort into their writeups, and don't get thanked or complimented for it, and don't realize that people enjoy their work. I got plenty of thanks and compliments throughout the game, but still, please articulate your enjoyment of works that people have made for you.
 
Speaking of works, seriously, are there any more writeups you want? I really want to keep writing for this time period.
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I've really enjoyed your game joe. Especially the hidden mechanics. Though I do not know how I could've figured out that Ada was a third party, I can now definitely see that there were signs here and there.

Articulating my pleasure, I must say, your writeups were FANTASTIC! No, really. Especially the one where Lopen got arrested.

So, when do you plan to make your next game?

On a side note, I'm happy to say, I've realised something due to the SE spartan ideology. Though not exactly in their words, I must say, acting quickly at the start helps a lot in the end. If I'd have done something a bit earlier, we might’ve stood a better chance. (Now don't hold me word to word on this. It's just something I've realised.)

Say, Joe, what if Ada had killed me this last turn. Mind doing that writeup? If it's not too much, of course.

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Re: Dynamic rules for max fun - I may be biased here, but I enjoyed LG14, even if I lost it. And that was in part due to some of the on the spot changes. Maybe you did a few things wrong with that game, but ultimately I had fun. I can't speak for the other team though, and from memory Wilson was none to happy about some things, but the game ended how it should have. And I think a lot of the ideas I come up with more focus on the experience rather than the balance, and tend to stray away from 'elimination' gameplay... I think my point was, I don't have any complaints about your GM'ing style!

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Joe, I as well loved the write-ups. They were absolutely hilarious at times and intense most of the other times. Genius.

 

But you know what's not genius? Orlok's governmental changes. Political sciences student agrees, nearly everything was a bad idea. Sorry Orlok. Better luck next time.

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Kyn, did you see the post I made at the end of my last cycle?

The whole system was designed to be a thinly veiled populist dictatorship (I am corrupt, remember :P ) nothing I'd actually advocate - although I must admit that defending it was incredibly fun!

Joe, this was a really enjoyable game - thank you for GMing it, and Meta, thank you for all you did to help Joe!

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An assortment of thoughts, in no particular order:

1. I very much enjoyed this game. Particularly after I got into the jail doc and was just able to guess (often wrongly) about hidden rules and throw out weird game ideas. That was most enjoyable.

2. Yay! I got a tag!

3. Thank you very much, Joe. This game was great fun, and I definitely enjoyed your GMing style. And all of your writeups were excellent. (If you want to, I'd imagine Elentari dying as she tries to protect someone else from the flames. (Not Liram, though. Just saying.))

4. Can't wait to read the spec doc. (I have to, though, because school and writing and reading other things come first. :( )

5. Well, I've been lynched now, which is a first. :( Oh well.

6. I have learned that when I have a game coming up is not the time to be my PM character.

7. I almost got that Aman wasn't Village at the end there! Not without help, though. A good deal of it.

8. This was really fun. That's about it.

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Thanks Joe! As always, I had a blast! Apologies to Deathclutch and Elbereth for your lynches. On the day we lynched El, I had been debating between her and Lopen. In the end, I decided to stab Lopen and arrest El. That was the wrong choice. Now I know that my aggressive plays aren't all that accurate. :P

 

Also, was anyone going for the solo win this game?

Always. I got up to 4 bags and then realized it'd take too long, so I just went full vigilante at that point.

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