Alfa Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Actually, in SoS there were plenty of spikes (f)lying around, and I guess that will be more or less the case in BoM, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurisses Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I still think that the earring Marasi is looking at is Trellium plated with whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pathfinder Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I still think that the earring Marasi is looking at is Trellium plated with whatever. But why would an earring plated in Trellium come with a note "just in case, Waxillium." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Because sneaky Shards/Splinters/Slivers/whatever Trell is wants to trick Wax. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Tricksy little shardseses. What has it got in it's pocketses? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Let me clarify: I think marasi is too smart and rational to get involved in messy, radically power altering hemallurgy. I do see her putting on the earring at some point. Do we know if she wears normal earrings? It's not a detail I've paid attention too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewStirlingMacDonald Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 It seems to me that the earring itself would have to be the thing that pierces and makes the hole in her ear for it to "count;" am I wrong about that? Also, Wax hasn't noticed boosted powers when wearing the earring (and I'm pretty sure there was a WOB that the earring is not responsible for the boosted strength that Wax sometimes mentions not being able to account for), is it likely that it would have a significant metalurgic effect on Marasi? The main way I could see Marasi spiking herself in a "radically power-altering" way is in a do-or-die moment, in which she can justify it on some moral level--to save someone's life, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlion Blight Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm more in agreement with Delightful. We would need some serious danger/torture going on for Marasi to spike herself, I think. However, wanting to communicate with Harmony for raisins would potentially be part of her arc in this novel. And it would not be difficult for her to recover the earring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Bard Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Am I the only one who considered a Marasi possibly siding with (or, at the very least, considering siding with) Autonomy? That's what the foreshadowy scene about standing in Wax's shadow seemed to represent in my mind. That being said, I would like to think that Autonomy is not a 'bad guy'. As a libertarian socialist, I disagree that a lack of order is necessarily a bad thing. To prevent the thread getting clogged with my political beliefs, I will be happy to answer any questions via PM. (Or, I might start up an AMA.) While Brandon didn't make Ruin 'evil', he still filled that role in the original trilogy, and I hope Autonomy doesn't do that here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathoth Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 We dont know if it is Autonomy or not. I partly think Brandon told us because he knew we would make the connection and we know how mischievous he can be. Anyway if Autonomy is working alone then he probably sees himself as the good guy and thinks that Harmony is getting too involved. After the last book it is easy to make Harmony a villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowwisp Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Am I the only one who considered a Marasi possibly siding with (or, at the very least, considering siding with) Autonomy? That's what the foreshadowy scene about standing in Wax's shadow seemed to represent in my mind. That being said, I would like to think that Autonomy is not a 'bad guy'. As a libertarian socialist, I disagree that a lack of order is necessarily a bad thing. To prevent the thread getting clogged with my political beliefs, I will be happy to answer any questions via PM. (Or, I might start up an AMA.) While Brandon didn't make Ruin 'evil', he still filled that role in the original trilogy, and I hope Autonomy doesn't do that here. Personally, I think it is much more likely for Wax to side with Autonomy than Marasi. Maybe I'm too much of a pessimist but Brandon Sanderson made it way too easy to like Wax and Steris together as a couple, so I have a feeling something bad is going to happen to Steris. But could you imagine Wax's reaction if Steris were to die somehow due to Harmony's meddling? Autonomy or his representative could very easily manipulative Wax to change sides and have him work to find a way to limit Harmony's power. We already know that Harmony thinks that Wax is special for some reason (his compatibility with the mists and thus Harmony's power?) and I doubt Autonomy would be oblivious to that. On a side note, I doubt Wax would ever get to this point, but I would love to see a "Darth Vader Worldhopper". A protagonist turned antagonist and start worldhopping to counter Hoid's actions. Edited January 21, 2016 by shadowwisp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Is autonomy Trell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Is autonomy Trell? I, personally, highly doubt it. Probably Trell is his (or her) real name and it's another shard of whatever or even something entirely different. For now we're facing an implicit RAFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Ok let me reframe that question. Who or what is Autonomy and how and why does he/she/it enter this conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Ok let me reframe that question. Who or what is Autonomy and how and why does he/she/it enter this conversation? I'll pm you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Portz Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Part 1 is easy: http://coppermind.net/wiki/Autonomy Part 2 has to do with the ongoing discussion, whether the Trell religion does in fact worshop Autonomy, or, phrased differently, whether Trell = Autonomy Ok let me reframe that question.Who or what is Autonomy and how and why does he/she/it enter this conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kairos Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I really thought she was going to use Wax's earring for a second there. I still think she might in the future. It is, after all, what I would do(probably what most of us Sharders would do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I really thought she was going to use Wax's earring for a second there. I still think she might in the future. It is, after all, what I would do(probably what most of us Sharders would do). Most of us Sharders would do it solely for the opportunity to say, "Hi, Saze!" and bounce gleefully. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Most of us Sharders would do it solely for the opportunity to say, "Hi, Saze!" and bounce gleefully. The question remains, what He will say to us. My guess is "Who the rust are you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 The question remains, what He will say to us. My guess is "Who the rust are you?" Except knowing Saze, he'll find a way to say it politely and in such a manner as to make us feel good about him asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Except knowing Saze, he'll find a way to say it politely and in such a manner as to make us feel good about him asking. Agreed. But if any sharder gets a Hemalurcial Earring that would have dreadful consequences: We would have to accept Calamity as Cosmere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Agreed. But if any sharder gets a Hemalurcial Earring that would have dreadful consequences: We would have to accept Calamity as Cosmere Not unless Reckoners actually happens. See? Until real-life people start getting superpowers, we're safe. On the other hand, believing that Doctor Who is Cosmere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) But then Alcatraz is also cosmere...And that means Alcatraz shattered Adonalsium!!!! (for this he traveled back in time with the Doctor,of course) Edited January 22, 2016 by Alfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svordish Scientist Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 This is a super cool theory I think it might be possible that the creature ReLuur described was a voidbringer with hermelgic spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 This is a super cool theory I think it might be possible that the creature ReLuur described was a voidbringer with hermelgic spikes. Have you read Bands of Mourning yet? Suffice it to say that a spiked Voidbringer was not what was being described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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