Orlion Blight Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 One is forced to wonder how bad that guy's handwriting was to make a 3 (Tin) look like a 4 (Pewter). I guess if it was sloppy/slanted... He would also have to leave out the dot, I think, since It's location would clarify which number was meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) The quote's a bit obscure, but someone from Team Brandon once noted that the use of the dots in the AoL era is reserved for more "formal" writing: so normally when writing you won't see any dots. EDIT: Oh, who am I kidding. *takes 5 minutes to find quote* The ALLOY OF LAW symbols are not a different alphabet from the one used in MISTBORN 1. It is just a more modern font. (In-world, there would be a variety of fonts, as there are in our world.] The traditional font is still legible to the majority of the population, and is still used when they want an old-fashioned look. Looking more closely at the font, it looks like we're missing some information. Note that the tin symbol for 'e' and 'i' are slightly different: the dot is in a different location. I suppose that the dots are diacritical marks, then. Any other diacritical information we should know about the Steel Alphabet (or Alethi, for that matter), Peter? Moving the dot to distinguish vowels is a modern innovation, within the last 100 years by ALLOY OF LAW. I suspect that dots may be gone entirely (except for the two changed vowels, and maybe "capital" letters) in many fonts by the time you get to the second trilogy. Numbers might get a moved dot too. The placement of the dots in the original symbology has to do with Allomancy, but they're largely superfluous in writing. The Feruchemical symbols (which are in the RPG) are evolved from the same root (the ancient symbols you can see in MISTBORN 3), but I don't know about their use in modern writing. It could be something like the hiragana/katakana distinction. But that's just speculation right now. So it looks like I misremembered, what with "Numbers might get a moved dot too". That or they just don't have the dot in numbers as of the AoL era, or the bad-handwriting man also skipped out on the dots. Edited January 18, 2016 by Kurkistan 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 And writing, like language, can evolve over time. There may be a sort of shorthand here that's simplifying the regular symbols into something easier to write in a single stroke, making it correspondingly easier for numbers to get mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencer12347 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I don't believe the monster to be a listener. From the way the journal states how kandra and koloss are imperfect I think that someone perfected the way to make a hemalurgy monster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Poor Marasi doesnt understand Wayne's fantastic wisdom. I think it is interesting. Wayne is not wise. He just likes to confuse people and sometimes it helps, just like a stoped clock is right twice a day and a delayed one never is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeBlood Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yeah, I was pretty shocked by that. Had to assume that it would be done in a painless manner, and that it would be voluntary(but Marasi did use the terminology "round up", so probably not). About the creature falling from the void. Don't know if I should put spoilers, so gonna err on the side of caution I don't think it's a voidbringer, even though the word void was dropped pretty blatantly. Possibly just a new Parshendi form, not of Odium. The exact quote is Not that he was a fool. No, the book was full of insight. Disturbing insight. The Lord Mistborn advocated gathering the Metalborn who were elderly or terminally ill, then asking them to sacrifice themselves to make these… spikes, which could in turn be used to create individuals of great power. I don't know about you but that sounds like voluntary to me, and were did you get the term "round up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I probably should get excited about this "monster", but the highlight of the chapter, for me, is definitely the developing relationship between Wax and Steris. Brandon, if you do something to do those two, I shall be very cross with you! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaymyth Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I probably should get excited about this "monster", but the highlight of the chapter, for me, is definitely the developing relationship between Wax and Steris. Brandon, if you do something to do those two, I shall be very cross with you! I think I might have just heard evil cackling somewhere off in the distance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Given Marasi's Hemalurgy research, and the fact that she handled Wax's earring... I'm wondering if she isn't going to spike herself with it at some point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I personally love the three clips becoming a date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC01 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm in the camp that thinks the monster is a new hemalurgic creation. With its eyes possibly being spikes, we're looking at something along the lines of a Steel Inquisitor--just also a monster. That said, it doesn't mean that the subject of the spiking didn't originally hail from a certain other Shardworld. Also, concerning what Moogle says, above, about Marasi possibly Spiking herself, I think that's exactly what we're going to see. Maybe not necessarily with the earring. The conversation she had with Wayne about being in Wax's shadow shows that she really wants to distinguish herself. We know that she thinks her power is lame (I don't think that the one stunt at the end of AoL was enough to convince her otherwise, no matter how important it was to the operation). I think that her yearning to excel is going to make her behave somewhat rashly, and signs are pointing towards some hemalurgic dabbling, methinks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yeah, her ability is basically the power to wait for backup. If she gets the Bands, though... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 One is forced to wonder how bad that guy's handwriting was to make a 3 (Tin) look like a 4 (Pewter). I guess if it was sloppy/slanted... He probably didn't carry the outer arc all the way through. That and leave out the dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Portz Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Well, the door already exploded, so throwing the bubble would give all the others in the carriage time to react to the gunman. Of course only Marasi herself can safe herself; and of course we know that she is perfectly capable of THAT! So I wouldnt say Marasi would be useless here. EDIT: Stormgate ninja'ed me :-) Incoming bullets aren't affected by time bubbles. It's the outgoing ones that ricochet. In fact, a cadmium bubble here would be a liability, as the bullet would speed up drastically, leaving Marasi with even less time to react. Unless she wanted to trap the bullet in with her (her bubbles are much larger than Wayne's, IIRC), in which case the bubble would give other people the chance to properly apprehend the gunman once the bullet hits whatever it hits. This'll be the cliffhanger. It's perfect for the purpose. Besides, the promise of an action scene to follow will be an excellent hook for people to go buy it. (Also I know Kurkistan will be salivating at the chance to see what exactly happens to a time bubble on a moving object) Edited January 19, 2016 by Atastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I don't see marasi being rash enough to spike herself, not without a lot more careful research. Yes she's trying to prove herself, but she's also too smart to do something like that. Also, she's reminding me of Agent Carter. And speaking of reminding, the metal in the labyrinth makes me think of the Greek myth of (dedalus?) in the labyrinth with the Minotaur and creating wings to fly out. I might be mixing myths here. I really liked the appendage/appendix line. Very clever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I don't see marasi being rash enough to spike herself, not without a lot more careful research. Yes she's trying to prove herself, but she's also too smart to do something like that. Also, she's reminding me of Agent Carter. Intelligence doesn't necessarily mean caution. She's smart enough to rationalize the act if she wants to. And I mean, are there really many negatives to spiking yourself at this point in time? Harmony's not about to take her over. So long as she's using a pre-made spike, I don't think Marasi would be too against the idea. She mentions how "disturbed" she was at Spook suggesting they spike the terminally ill, but she mentions she finds it a very compelling argument too. Edited January 19, 2016 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Not to mention that it might just be an earring she pierces herself with, not necessarily a power-granting spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Frankly, with Wax refusing to put the earing in it's probably actually wise to keep communications with Harmony open instead of relying on MeLaan. If nothing else maybe Saze can spare some time to do telephone duty for our spikees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I too thought Marasi might spike herself a little bit. The earring is a small thing, and I don't think she believes Hemalurgy is evil, I feel she would trust the Lord Mistborn when he writes that he figures "Hemalurgy is good now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Portz Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hmm ... her faith might play a role here, or? I would have to reread AoL and SoS, but I think it might be possible, that she views the earring primarily as a Pathian token, and not as a hemalurgical spike. Did she and Wax (and the "whole group") discuss its properties at all? Lots of research to do, or am I just blind? I don't see marasi being rash enough to spike herself, not without a lot more careful research. Yes she's trying to prove herself, but she's also too smart to do something like that. Also, she's reminding me of Agent Carter.And speaking of reminding, the metal in the labyrinth makes me think of the Greek myth of (dedalus?) in the labyrinth with the Minotaur and creating wings to fly out. I might be mixing myths here.I really liked the appendage/appendix line. Very clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zea mays Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Well, the door already exploded, so throwing the bubble would give all the others in the carriage time to react to the gunman. Of course only Marasi herself can safe herself; and of course we know that she is perfectly capable of THAT! So I wouldnt say Marasi would be useless here. EDIT: Stormgate ninja'ed me :-) ... She has exactly the kind of power that is helpful when one wants to, from one's personal point of view, "skip ahead" in time. Like if, say, one is waiting for a book to be published. Note to self: do not try to be obscurely funny. It never works. She did toss the ear-ring over to Wax along with the paperwork she just gave him, so she'd have to somehow get it back to spike herself with it. She might use something else, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Marasi is hunting down ReLuur's missing spike... not that it would grant her a useful power, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Marasi is hunting down ReLuur's missing spike... not that it would grant her a useful power, I guess? I believe that is her actual mission. Edited January 19, 2016 by Stormgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I believe that is her actual mission. I mean, in the sense that if she's been foreshadowed to use Hemalurgy, she might end up sticking herself with the missing spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Invested Beard Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 *Hoid disguised as a random Southern Continent dweller walks behind Marasi after she finds the spike and "accidentally"knocks her over, causing her to stab herself just in the right spot for some crazy power transfer* "Oh I'm sorry I didn't see you there. How clumsy of me." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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