Chaos Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 This is awesome. Told you guys that it would be Friction, not Heat Division is an awesome Surge name. Makes sense given the Skybreakers name and what little we have seen of Dustbringers. I'm surprised Brandon corrected Travel to Transportation. Windy told me Travel was a confirmed Surge, so I blame Windy for everything. I wonder what Surface Tension's precise name will be... By the way, it is Elsecaller. Not Elscaller. Also, wow, Bondsmiths. I missed that in the other topic. Very interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Brandon called it Travel, so I'm innocent in all this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Brandon called it Travel, so I'm innocent in all this. Fine Brandon can rename and switch things around until the books are published, so that's a thing that can happen. Also, clearly, Bondsmiths are Order 8, since they have the surface tension-y Surge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 He used the Blade to cut the lock but crashed down the gates =) Something banged on the gates 3 times. The lock got cut by the Shardblade, then the gates just swung open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Something banged on the gates 3 times. The lock got cut by the Shardblade, then the gates just swung open. Semantics =) If he used the blade he would have cutted the gate not banged But a get what you said no more arguing of my part =) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 /> By the way, it is Elsecaller. Not Elscaller. So it is caller at the end, I seriously doubt that Brightcaller is the name of the fifth order now. I don't think Brandon would repeat that, as he hasn't so far. Bright is very possible though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 I'm surprised Brandon corrected Travel to Transportation. Windy told me Travel was a confirmed Surge, so I blame Windy for everything. He didn't correct travel to transportation. He said both, but seemed to indicate that transportation was better than travel. I wonder what Surface Tension's precise name will be... Depends a lot on Peter. Brandon said he describes the effect and Peter does the science and math associations and then they decide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 He didn't correct travel to transportation. He said both, but seemed to indicate that transportation was better than travel. Depends a lot on Peter. Brandon said he describes the effect and Peter does the science and math associations and then they decide. Lol! This does not surprise me, but it does make me laugh a lot XD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 If we put in Stormlight terms. Brandon is the crazy cook and Peter is the Ardent woman good in math, I see....... If I was Peter I not completly sure that I would like this kind of "homage" made by my boss =) Just kinding =) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Meh, Brandon already killed Peter off in the beginning of Alloy of Law. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Meh, Brandon already killed Peter off in the beginning of Alloy of Law. Hahaha I'm noticing a trend here, I never knew that Mr.Sanderson are a Bully =) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeatherWriter Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 Just gotta let you guys know that the tumblr fandom is basically throwing parties right now over a cover redesign. There was quite a bit of discontent when the original cover was released, so it's welcome news to us! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted October 15, 2013 Report Share Posted October 15, 2013 (edited) Based on the starfalls vision, I am calling the last surge as communication. It could be detection also, but I see too many clues pointing to communication as a Stoneward ability. I believe that all Radiants can do detection via their spren as Kaladin learns that they are approaching the warcamps from Syl and the surgebinder learns of the presence of the shardholder in this reading. Edited: added detection as general ability, but not surge, explanation. Edited October 16, 2013 by hoser 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I too have been wondering about communication, or perception, or something along those lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) I don't know, I am pretty sure the last surge will still follow the 'Forces' theme.... I was thinking something like Attraction or Magnitism... possibly something like Solidity... or how about Vibration or Resonance. On the Surface Tension name, I think it will eventually be called Cohesion. ((Surface tension is caused by cohesive forces between the particles of a liquid)) Edited October 16, 2013 by MadRand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cem Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 From what I understand the Surge doesn't have anything to do with liquids. It changes the rigidity of an object. Makes something stiffer or more pliable maybe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Then it is still manipulating the cohesive forces of the material (i.e how the particles interact with one another). I stand by Cohesion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Aztec Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Integrity! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Rigidity seems to be the best term to describe the situation Brandon described. I don't like "rigidity" as the name for the surge though, but I haven't happened upon something better in my vast scientific knowledgeness. Cohesion sounds wrong to me. Cohesion is an attractive force and doesn't fit the scenario Brandon described. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Integrity works well, especially if Dalinar blocking the chasmfiend's claw is an example of this surge. It also has a nice, positive ring to it and fits Dalinar very well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) Molecular Integrity. If you "space the distance between the atoms" of a object they became fragile, If you condense they became hard.(strong/weak molecular force?) =) Edited October 16, 2013 by Natans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The physics of what you are describing doesn't hold up. Distance between molecules and atoms doesn't really have anything to do with rigidity or hardness or strength. Just density really. Edited October 16, 2013 by Shardlet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlet Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 I now embark upon my first intentional double post (and I think you'll agree that it is properly done). I recalled something Brandon said while I was hovering in the signing line that is way cool. This is not official and there is no indication that even if this is happening, it will make it into WoR. So, don't piddle yourselves with happy pee just yet. Michael Whelan reportedly has (spontaneously?) began working on new endpages! Again, there is no confirmation that he is actually doing it and there is definitely no indications from Tor that even if Whelan does do them, that they would be in WoR. But, how cool would that be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 It's possible - I thought to plea to someone to ask Brandon during the next signing whether we'll be getting new in-world art (likely) and new maps / endpages (possible, but not as likely). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The physics of what you are describing doesn't hold up. Distance between molecules and atoms doesn't really have anything to do with rigidity or hardness or strength. Just density really. Allow me a second chance =) "Density is mass per volume. The more molecules there are in a fixed volume, the greater the mass and density. But think about it, if there are more molecules there is less free space. Therefore the higher the density, the less free space there is. So in a solid, there is very little space between molecules because the molecules are tightly packed. Because there are so many molecules, the mass is greater and so is the density. (USUALLY) In liquids, the molecules are still touching, but there is space (gaps) between some of the molecules. These gaps make the density lower, this is because there are fewer molecules per fixed volume. In gases there is a lot of space between molecules, meaning there is EVEN fewer molecules in a given volume. Because gases has fewer molecules, the mass is lower. Therefore gas has the lowest density. The less space between molecules, the more molecules there are. More molecules=greater density=less space between molecules. Conversely, If there is a lesser amount of molecules, there is more space between molecules and less density." So maybe the "superficial tension" surge is related to the density of things ? Make something more or less dense (hard/soft) ? (I give up, I'm a law school graduate, science definitly isn't my strong point) Someone have any theory about what could make a towel hard was rock in a pseudo-scientific way =) Edited October 16, 2013 by Natans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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