The Rangress Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Book 1: We discover Bastille wants to be an Oculator Al compares this to wanting to become a popsicle Book 2: Australia once dreamed of a hot day and woke up as a popsicle Book 4:Alcatraz uses Bestower's Lenses to give people his talent Theory:Al will use his Bestower's Lenses to give Bastille his Oculatory abilities. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfury Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 That would be really weird, but really cool. I can see it being used as a sneaky way out of another impossible situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TapeMonkey Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 *awkwardly butts in to conversation* Personally, I think Brandon will probably continue with the Bestower's Lenses stuff (if the 5th book ever happens). I could see him continuing on the idea of Alcatraz giving his Talent through the lenses. Who really knows, though? I do think that there's a chance that Bastille will somehow become Oculator-y, simply because of how vehemently Alcatraz denies that it will ever happen. Because, as we all know, Al is a liar. *awkwardly leaves conversation* 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rangress Posted September 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) Also, kindly assume that we can, in fact, trust anything we hear about this. If we can, then Al's getting tied to that altar in Book Five and sacrificed for his Oculatory abilities. A clever stooped Al move would be to give Bastille his oculatory abilities, so at the very least the Librarians wouldn't have the Lenses. EDIT: I asked if Bastille could become at Oculator at a signing, and he said that it would be very difficult, but it is possible. Edited October 3, 2013 by The Rangress 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ete'ni Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 (edited) . Edited June 10, 2014 by Ete'ni 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melaan Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Alcatraz can't actually die on this alter though right? I mean he is writing the story as we read it. He also refers to several other characters being alive as he's writing, Bastille being one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Only tangentially related: this thread has led me to realize that the transfer of abilities is a theme that has permeated most of Brandon's works. Elantris, Mistborn, Warbreaker, Alcatraz, Steelheart; all feature the gifting of abilities very prominently as part of their magic systems. For all we know, Stormlight Archive will eventually feature a method of gifting as well. That is all. Carry on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Only tangentially related: this thread has led me to realize that the transfer of abilities is a theme that has permeated most of Brandon's works. Elantris, Mistborn, Warbreaker, Alcatraz, Steelheart; all feature the gifting of abilities very prominently as part of their magic systems. For all we know, Stormlight Archive will eventually feature a method of gifting as well. That is all. Carry on. Elantris? I read that more as "initiation rituals that will warp your mind and body". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melaan Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Elantris? I read that more as "initiation rituals that will warp your mind and body". Hey, no one said the gift was a nice gift. It would not surprise me at all if Alcatraz gifts Bastille some Oculator abilities. In this case I'm sure the gift will be much appreciated, though knowing Bastille, I'm sure she'll find some way to yell at Alcatraz anyways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Guess what I got you for your birthday Moogle? SURPRISE! *Monks jump out and start chanting. Bones begin warping in unnatural patterns beneath the skin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromptj Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 What's worse, being a Dakhor monk, or having spikes through your eyes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surgebound Rainspren Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) did they ever say how long it was before the smedry talents returned Edited June 4, 2014 by Surgebound Rainspren 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaring at the Survivor Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) The whole time I just thought Alcatraz would break everything he wanted to whenever he wanted to to imitate other Talents... break time to use G. Smedry's, break space to use his uncle's or dad's... etc. So I was thinking he would break Oculatory abilities to get Bastille one/them. Edited June 29, 2014 by Stroniax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 would be pretty difficult for alcatraz to bestow his oculatory power that way because, if he bestow that, then he's temporarily not an oculator anymore, and he stop bestowing. he would have to only bestow part of his power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She Who Cannot Be Named Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 would be pretty difficult for alcatraz to bestow his oculatory power that way because, if he bestow that, then he's temporarily not an oculator anymore, and he stop bestowing. he would have to only bestow part of his power. It's time to break the grandfather... ermmm oculator paradox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I could see him giving his powers to Bastille. Honestly the only thing that I'm sure is going to happen is that they're married by the time Brandon Al is writing the books. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I could see him giving his powers to Bastille. Honestly the only thing that I'm sure is going to happen is that they're married by the time Brandon Al is writing the books. Really? That's the only thing I'm sure isn't going to happen. There's so much foreshadowing for it that it's never going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well that or they're both dead and in the spiritual realm together............Actually I really like that idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Well that or they're both dead and in the spiritual realm together............Actually I really like that idea. Nah, I think they're just never going to get together. Either one of them is going to die (again, if it's Bastille), turn out to be a secret Librarian agent (if so, it'll probably be Alcatraz), or be transformed into something weird (or maybe I've just been reading too much Clark Ashton Smith), or they just won't get together. The complete defiance of expectations, narrative physics, and foreshadowing is just the sort of thing that Alcatraz would do. Edited July 8, 2014 by Shaggai 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenosHg Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I've just started book 4 and didn't get to this part, but, if you Bestow your Talent, you temporarily lose it, right? But when you marry someone, that person gets the same talent, forever (till the divorce), even if you die. So can you marry someone to have 2 people with the talent and then, by Hemalurgical logic, lend your Talent to your spouse, therefore having someone with a talent twice more powerful? (Especially since Al's breaking is nearly omnipotent as it is) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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