SmurfAquamarineBodies Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Is there any way to detect allomantic potential other than beating the crap out of them and giving them a bottle of metal shavings? I assume they could ask Harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Can we extend this to how metals in compounds react Allomanticaly? Like how Pushes and Pulls would work on rust, or if you could burn rust for the iron in it?well we already know that bad alloys of a certain metal won't work quite right (up to and including harming/killing the person attempting to burn it) so I would guess that for allomantic purposes rust or blood are not pure enough sources of iron. I am not an expert on biochemistry, but I assume the iron in blood is bound to other elements/compounds, and isn't just floating around as pure iron molecules most of the time. same for any other metallic nutrient we need. so if a lurcher can't detect/burn iron when they swallow steel, it would stand to reason that they wouldn't detect the iron in blood or rust etc Edited December 16, 2015 by Dunkum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 well we already know that bad alloys of a certain metal won't work quite right (up to and including harming/killing the person attempting to burn it) so I would guess that for allomantic purposes rust or blood are not pure enough sources of iron. I am not an expert on biochemistry, but I assume the iron in blood is bound to other elements/compounds, and isn't just floating around as pure iron molecules most of the time. same for any other metallic nutrient we need. so if a lurcher can't detect/burn iron when they swallow steel, it would stand to reason that they wouldn't detect the iron in blood or rust etc Perhaps a strong enough Enhancement metal burn could make the metals Allomantically react, although your example of steel is a good one. You are correct about iron in blood not floating around, I don't know exactly what compounds the iron is in, but it is in hemoglobin, if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 What jewel would a Soulcaster (either kind) need to Soulcast something into ice? Would it be garnet, for non-oil liquids such as water, or would it be diamond, the jewel for crystals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormlessFox Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I wonder if there is a situation where a sliver of Odium can be used as a hemulargic spike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I wonder if there is a situation where a sliver of Odium can be used as a hemulargic spikeI don't think you mean Sliver. If Rayse gave up the power of Odium, he would be a Sliver, I think. I think I understand what you mean, though, and shudder to think what the attribute stolen would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfAquamarineBodies Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 If a Radiant was to get hit in the head hard enough to cause damage to the brain, would they need to heal the damage before they could actively make use of their Surges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 That would likely be included in general Stormlight healing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfAquamarineBodies Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 That would likely be included in general Stormlight healing. Yes. But Stormlight healing is different from an active use of a Surge. For example Kaladin was able to heal using Stormlight while he was unconscious but he has never used a Lashing while unconscious. As far as I'm aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 From the Aon Kii thread: What sort of guilt do Aon Kii and the Skybreakers work off of? Because emotional guilt seems... misguided, and it doesn't seem like there'd be a way to determine legal guilt, Realmatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Taravangian mentions a 'Lifebrother' in his first proper conversation with Szeth, who/what is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaIadin Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 For the upcoming "Nightblood" book, is it going to be about how Vasher came into Roshar and how Nightblood fell into the hands of Nin? Also a kind of selfish question, will it be free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle of the Forest Path Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Unlikely on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asperity Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Will Kaladin achieve escape velocity solely through usage of his own powers, or receive outside help? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Will Kaladin achieve escape velocity solely through usage of his own powers, or receive outside help? It's a tricky question. You are asking if "may Kaladin left Roshar without any Help ?" or "If may he actually achieve the Roshar's escape velocity ?" Because the first id of course "Yes" he need need just a single Lash to above and he have just to wait. The Roshar Gravity doesn't influence him anymore therefore any speed may send him in the outer space (if the Stormlight does last). If you want actually to know if he may reach the Roshar escape velocity probably the answer is still yes but probably he will burn (and remember that Roshar gravity is something like 0.7 of our own), maybe in a Shardplate he may survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 There is the problem with breathing... But then again, he can hold his breath for a very long time, especially with Stormlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Will Kaladin achieve escape velocity solely through usage of his own powers, or receive outside help? Accidental downvote. On topic, does anyone know who this "lifebrother" is? Szeth calls him a vorin god, so it is most likely a herald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 On topic, does anyone know who this "lifebrother" is? Szeth calls him a vorin god, so it is most likely a herald. We do not know to my knowledge, I'm afraid. It shares the same construction as "Stormfather", which makes me think of it being a spren. Perhaps it refers to Cultivation and gets the gender wrong. None of the male Heralds really fit "life" as far as we know from the Ars Arcanum. Ishar, associated with meat and flesh, is the most likely candidate in my opinion. Of the female Heralds, it could, perhaps, be Vedel of the Edgedancers (Loving/Healing, have cultivationspren). In the context it's used (Taravangian saying he sometimes thinks the Lifebrother sent Szeth to him in an approving manner), it would also fit with Ishar, who is the Herald of Luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 On Roshar Hoid takes care to make sure that Odium does not become aware of his presence (as if he did he would destroy Hoid). Did Hoid take similar precautions on Scadrial to avoid the notice of Ruin? Or did Ruin just not care about his presence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfMortals Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Would a Kandra posing as a Listener be able to attune the Listener rhythms ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Would a Kandra posing as a Listener be able to attune the Listener rhythms ?Ooh. Good one. The only reason they wouldn't be able to is because the rhythms are part of a magic system.WoR spoilers Though if the Everstorm is any indicator, it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle of the Forest Path Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 On a related note: If a Seeker went to Roshar, would burning Bronze allow detecting the Listener Rhythms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 On a related note: If a Seeker went to Roshar, would burning Bronze allow detecting the Listener Rhythms? I think that he can't, I remember a WoB about the "Rhythms as Cosmere wide phenomen" not a Roshar-thing therefore if an Investiture-detector may detects them, He will detect from Scadrial itself without any need of world hopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkum Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 I think that he can't, I remember a WoB about the "Rhythms as Cosmere wide phenomen" not a Roshar-thing therefore if an Investiture-detector may detects them, He will detect from Scadrial itself without any need of world hopping.Depends on whether or not actually invoking them (e.g. singing/humming/whatever)uses investiture. if so, it seems reasonable that a seeker would be able to detect them. they might never have detecting anything on scadrial simply because no one knew about the rhythms and so no one was attuning to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadoxicalZen Posted January 1, 2016 Report Share Posted January 1, 2016 From the Aon Kii thread: What sort of guilt do Aon Kii and the Skybreakers work off of? Because emotional guilt seems... misguided, and it doesn't seem like there'd be a way to determine legal guilt, Realmatically. Skybreakers apparently have a knack from this, going from that epigraph in WoR Would Ruin have known what attributes spikes made from others Shard's substance would steal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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