the winter system Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Did I watch the right video? Can someone link it to the right one so I make sure I am checking out the right one? If it is, gak. I see. It's dark. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Did I watch the right video? Can someone link it to the right one so I make sure I am checking out the right one? If it is, gak. I see. It's dark. Agreed. If it's "September," sung by the Living Tombstone and animated by BronyDanceParty, then you're at the right video. Fun fact: you know how the correct month of the RP is September? Guess what pony song that's a reference to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Oh. Yes. That's right. I'm scared now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aonar Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 We decided earlier that "September" can also describe an Epic waking up from their Rending. ….sorry to mention it. I've never really thought about it before, but that does fit almost eerily well. Had Frostfire's Rending been longer, that song would have described him to a T. Believe it or not, that's not even the darkest pony-themed music video on the Internet. I almost want to ask, but the part of me that doesn't want to be scarred for life has vetoed the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 What's the darkest pony themed music video on the internet, Kobold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 What's the darkest pony themed music video on the internet, Kobold? It's... it's... * mumbles * Okay, I'll try again. It's... mumble mumble. It's... it's... You know what? I'm too scared to say. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It's... it's... * mumbles * Okay, I'll try again. It's... mumble mumble. It's... it's... You know what? I'm too scared to say. Oh. That video. Trust us, Winter, you're better off not knowing. Really. So. So much better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Oh. That video. Trust us, Winter, you're better off not knowing. Really. So. So much better. Another victim of [DATA EXPUNGED], I take it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Another victim of [DATA EXPUNGED], I take it? I couldn't handle more than a minute. Seriously, who looks at a sweet cartoon show and says "Oh, that inspires me to do this"? This is why we can't have nice things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I couldn't handle more than a minute. Seriously, who looks at a sweet cartoon show and says "Oh, that inspires me to do this"? This is why we can't have nice things. The sequel, [REDACTED], is actually a bit better. Still graphic, still very dark, but with a brilliantly composed score and a plot that ends on a hopeful note. But yeah. There were two gorey fanfics in early MLP history that have influenced all others to come, and both are extremely out-of-character distortions of the show and its values. I don't mind a dark MLP fic--when done right, they can strengthen the values of the show rather than break them down--but the most infamous fanfics are the ones that seemed to relish attacking everything that's lovable about the show and its characters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted April 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 The sequel, [REDACTED], is actually a bit better. Still graphic, still very dark, but with a brilliantly composed score and a plot that ends on a hopeful note. But yeah. There were two gorey fanfics in early MLP history that have influenced all others to come, and both are extremely out-of-character distortions of the show and its values. I don't mind a dark MLP fic--when done right, they can strengthen the values of the show rather than break them down--but the most infamous fanfics are the ones that seemed to relish attacking everything that's lovable about the show and its characters. Darkness isn't bad. I'm watching the new Netflix/Marvel Daredevil series, and it is extremely dark. But that darkness fits. It fits the setting, it fits the character, it fits the plot. It makes sense, and seeing the main character remain a hero against that backdrop actually makes the darkness uplifting, as opposed to depressing. Those two fics? They're just dark for the sake of being dark. It doesn't do anything positive for the characters, or for the series as a whole. They didn't even make me see the characters in a whole new light. They just made me ill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Darkness isn't bad. I'm watching the new Netflix/Marvel Daredevil series, and it is extremely dark. But that darkness fits. It fits the setting, it fits the character, it fits the plot. It makes sense, and seeing the main character remain a hero against that backdrop actually makes the darkness uplifting, as opposed to depressing. Those two fics? They're just dark for the sake of being dark. It doesn't do anything positive for the characters, or for the series as a whole. They didn't even make me see the characters in a whole new light. They just made me ill. I haven't seen Daredevil, and the reviews I've seen make me suspect it's a bit too dark for me, but I know what you mean. A story in which Rainbow Dash discovers a horrifying conspiracy in Cloudsdale and finds herself with her loyalties torn between her fellow pegasi and her morals could be fascinating, and I could tolerate some darkness or violence if the story moved forward in the spirit of exploring the characters and the concepts its brought up. A story in which Rainbow Dash turns out to have been EVIIIIIIL all along and is the head of this terrifying conspiracy, with the story reveling in as much gore and misery as it can before ending on a downer? That's less of a fanfiction and more of a slap in the face to the readers who are presumably reading your story because they love the show and the values that you have rejected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilverDragon Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I leave you guys alone for a day, and you're already five pages into another question thread? Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I leave you guys alone for a day, and you're already five pages into another question thread? Unbelievable. Such is the way of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 If you guys had said that dark fanfics were bad, I would be laughing really hard right now, since that's basically what we are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mail-mi Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 You guys probably wouldn't like my alternate ending of Frozen then, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 You guys probably wouldn't like my alternate ending of Frozen then, huh? What's it like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 If you guys had said that dark fanfics were bad, I would be laughing really hard right now, since that's basically what we are. But is it really a dark fic, if the source material we're working from is pretty dark? I think grimdark really only applies to dark stories based on sunny works—like MLP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mail-mi Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 What's it like? I killed hans, Elsa, and Olaf. But Anna got ice powers. So that's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 But is it really a dark fic, if the source material we're working from is pretty dark? I think grimdark really only applies to dark stories based on sunny works—like MLP.Good point. Though, we do show a lot more of it than in the actual stories. I suppose that comes from writing immoral and, in some cases, immortal jerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 If you guys had said that dark fanfics were bad, I would be laughing really hard right now, since that's basically what we are. The distinction between us and Cupcakes is that we don't revel in darkness for darkness' sake. When an evil character commits an atrocity in the RP, it's only to illustrate the issues of the setting or to prepare a villain for his eventual comeuppance. If TwiLyght had spent a dozen pages describing Fortuity cutting Nathan to pieces while Funtimes giggled by his side, then she would have written a grimdark fic--and one I wouldn't be interested in reading. Being the good writer that she is, she instead hinted at horrific gore as a way of establishing what forms of evil Epics were capable of, and what kind of well-earned terror they could inspire in vanillas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I love how we discuss things without yelling at each other like the rest of the internet. Though, that might be why we get so many new threads so fast. Not yelling at each other, instead making pony upon pony upon pony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted April 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I love how we discuss things without yelling at each other like the rest of the internet. Though, that might be why we get so many new threads so fast. Not yelling at each other, instead making pony upon pony upon pony. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the winter system Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I had an idea. Why don't we make a pony symbolizing each and every Question thread? To show how far we've come (read: To repersent all the other ponies we've made) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSilverDragon Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Post 100 on question 10!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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