ROCkUguys13 Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 I was just talking to Brandon after a panel at Minicon. I asked "Is there any sort of civilization on Braize?" He answered with "Braize is the weirdest one because it's kind of like a prison. So, is there any civilization on Braize? Kind of. It's like a prison. That's all I'll say." I'm paraphrasing, of course. But what could this mean for the Cosmere? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Slowswift Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Well, I'm pretty sure that's where Odium is, so... there's that. Awesome question, and an answer that should feed the theorymonsters for some time. Edited April 4, 2015 by Slowswift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haradion Drogon Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) A Prison... For things *Other* than Odium? OOOOOOHHHH..........Calling it RIGHT now.In the next 20 Years time, when the Stormlight Archive is over, the Cosmere Crossovers are in abundance, there will be an epic twist moment when a character warps to Braize.It will be a moment, like the ending of Words of Radiance. When everyone who's up to date in the COsmere goes."WHAT THE ...." O_O.In order to trap something else. Some Bigger Bad. Calling it now. Just saying. Edited April 4, 2015 by Haradion Drogon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormingTexan Posted April 4, 2015 Report Share Posted April 4, 2015 There is a WoB that is something along the lines of "Do the desolations come when a Herald breaks from torture." Brandon gave a vague answer like "This person is asking good questions" I thought that kind of implied there is a presence there physically torturing the Heralds instead of a spiritual "hell" like place I initially thought. This sounds like further proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottwo Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 There is a WoB that is something along the lines of "Do the desolations come when a Herald breaks from torture." Brandon gave a vague answer like "This person is asking good questions" I thought that kind of implied there is a presence there physically torturing the Heralds instead of a spiritual "hell" like place I initially thought. This sounds like further proof. Wait, so the only way that the Heralds were actually able to break free is because Braize was getting closer to Roshar? So, something about proximity allowed the Heralds to travel between the two planets when before they were trapped and tortured. Could this be something like the Aons and how they were most powerful near Elantris? Location based magic? Or is it that they pull their power from Honor/Cultivation and it's only their presence that allowed them to finally break free and travel to Roshar to warn and prepare for the Desolation of Odium's orbit's periapsis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'm not sure how any of the things you're saying relates to the text you've quoted. At all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worldhopper Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I wonder if this is Hoid's goal. Braize seems like a bad place for a Worldhopper, especially if it can hold a Shardholder like Rayse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruro272 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hey ROCkUGuys, did you go to his Minicon social hour as well? I stuck around until after mostly everyone left and it was just me, a ~13 y/o kid, and a few other people, and the kid and I were the only ones to ask him any detailed Cosmere questions! I'm going to be posting the brief Q&A tomorrow, but man it would have been nice to have had a few other Cosmere theorists in the mix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCkUguys13 Posted April 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Hey ROCkUGuys, did you go to his Minicon social hour as well? I stuck around until after mostly everyone left and it was just me, a ~13 y/o kid, and a few other people, and the kid and I were the only ones to ask him any detailed Cosmere questions! I'm going to be posting the brief Q&A tomorrow, but man it would have been nice to have had a few other Cosmere theorists in the mix! I wasn't able to make it to his Social Hour, but I went to all his other panels. I asked the question after his GoH Interview. I would love to see the Social Hour, though. I wish I could have been there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taveren Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 so its Australia 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruro272 Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I wasn't able to make it to his Social Hour, but I went to all his other panels. I asked the question after his GoH Interview. I would love to see the Social Hour, though. I wish I could have been there. Well you didn't miss all that much, trust me. Only two of us 17th-Sharder types and neither of us actually have account here (til I made one today lol). I'll post my stuff tomorrow. It's pretty juicy actually, I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCkUguys13 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Well you didn't miss all that much, trust me. Only two of us 17th-Sharder types and neither of us actually have account here (til I made one today lol). I'll post my stuff tomorrow. It's pretty juicy actually, I think. I actually just created an account, too, just to post this. It didn't feel right keeping the information about Braize to myself. Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostlywhatnot Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 There were others of us there! I was just too nervous to ask Brandon questions. I think if I hadn't also been cosplaying that weekend, I would have been less self-conscious about it. I had a list, but they all went out of my head when the actual opportunity arose, so I'm glad you were able to get your questions answered. I heard some of the responses you got after the Social Hour, and am looking forward to catching what I may have missed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I read a WOB that said the Heralds blamed Honor for what happened to them, The Heralds surely got shafted on that deal....They have to fight Desolation after Desolation where if they die fighting they are sent off to get tortured but even if they survive they have to return there anyway...I can't honestly blame them for bailing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruro272 Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 There were others of us there! I was just too nervous to ask Brandon questions. I think if I hadn't also been cosplaying that weekend, I would have been less self-conscious about it. I had a list, but they all went out of my head when the actual opportunity arose, so I'm glad you were able to get your questions answered. I heard some of the responses you got after the Social Hour, and am looking forward to catching what I may have missed! Funny that you saw me lol, you should have spoken up!!! Who were you cosplaying as??? Btw I made my thread in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostlywhatnot Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I was cosplaying as Ranette (I was the chick with the corset, holsters, nerf side-arm, and goggles on top of my head). It was fun, but without many other cosplayers, I was pretty self-conscious. If I'd been in just regular nerd attire, I probably would have spoken up! I love getting the extra juicy details. Maybe I'll be less star-struck the next time he's at a local-ish con. Thanks for posting your Q&A! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruro272 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 If I remember your outfit like I think you do, you were actually really good! Honestly I would not have ever guessed who you were, but it was still a good cosplay costume! Next time make sure you ask questions--it took me a while to get over my nervestoo but he's actually very easy to talk to and he really appreciates GOOD well thought out questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostlywhatnot Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Thanks! And yes, I am definitely going to ask questions next time. Now that I've had a chance to meet him (I did speak to him the day before about how well he writes female characters ), I think I'll be more inclined to ask questions. I did ask Peter a few questions, but they were more about the technical side of his work, rather than plot questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewStirlingMacDonald Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Wait, so the only way that the Heralds were actually able to break free is because Braize was getting closer to Roshar? So, something about proximity allowed the Heralds to travel between the two planets when before they were trapped and tortured. Could this be something like the Aons and how they were most powerful near Elantris? Location based magic? Or is it that they pull their power from Honor/Cultivation and it's only their presence that allowed them to finally break free and travel to Roshar to warn and prepare for the Desolation of Odium's orbit's periapsis? I may have a WOB that could apply here: When I ordered Alloy of Law I asked for him to tell me something about the relation of the cognitive and spiritual realms to each other and he wrote something like "The Cognitive Realm is linked to location, the Spiritual Realm is not. This affects the magics." EDIT: Annnd just realized I double-posted. Sorry 'bout that, I'll add the contents of the first post below here so that a mod can delete it if they want. I was cosplaying as Ranette (I was the chick with the corset, holsters, nerf side-arm, and goggles on top of my head). It was fun, but without many other cosplayers, I was pretty self-conscious. If I'd been in just regular nerd attire, I probably would have spoken up! I love getting the extra juicy details. Maybe I'll be less star-struck the next time he's at a local-ish con. Thanks for posting your Q&A! You should totally post some cosplay photos, there is a section in the "gallery" for cosmere cosplay... Edited April 10, 2015 by AndrewStirlingMacDonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostlywhatnot Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I will, once I get a decent photo. The ones my friends took all ended up blurry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alylime Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I may have a WOB that could apply here: When I ordered Alloy of Law I asked for him to tell me something about the relation of the cognitive and spiritual realms to each other and he wrote something like "The Cognitive Realm is linked to location, the Spiritual Realm is not. This affects the magics." Given the recent WoB that all investiture appears identically in the spiritual realm (http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/cpcxs56?context=3), it seems like the intent of the shard influences the local area's cognitive realm to determine how to access the magic, which is pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggai Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I may have a WOB that could apply here: When I ordered Alloy of Law I asked for him to tell me something about the relation of the cognitive and spiritual realms to each other and he wrote something like "The Cognitive Realm is linked to location, the Spiritual Realm is not. This affects the magics." Okay, that's actually really cool. I wonder what that means for Ideals. If two cultures have different ideas of beauty, what happens to the Ideal? Are there two Ideals? That could open up a lot of interesting things with magic that involves different aesthetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Moridin Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Okay, that's actually really cool. I wonder what that means for Ideals. If two cultures have different ideas of beauty, what happens to the Ideal? Are there two Ideals? That could open up a lot of interesting things with magic that involves different aesthetics. Is it confirmed Beauty is a spiritual thing? Since the Cognitive is about perception and "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" beauty is an entirely cognitive thing with no associated ideal? (Sadly am not fully up to snuff on everything Realmatic) On a more on topic note, maybe it means that the spiritual cares solely about 'spiritual' relationships, and less physical ones? How two things are spatially oriented in relationship to each other is of no importance, but the nature and strength of their relationship and does? (Like a rock that's been next to other rocks for a long time then moved somewhere else still has that relationship despite the change in spiritual relationship.) And since the Cognitive is about the perception of things, then the perceived relationship between things on the Physical would impact that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Well, you have multiple types of stone, and depending on where you grow up your mental image of stone would differ based on what stones you've had most experience with. However, unless you specify that type while soulcasting things to stone the only result would be the default, spiritually ideal "stone" substance. So their might be an ideal state of beauty, just as there is an ideal state of "health" for healing magics that aren't Aon based (storming complicated, that thing), but it can be cognitively distorted when manifested with investiture. I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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