maxal Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 A couple of more answers by Brandon. Some interesting notes, but mostly going into detail of things that are already known or assumed http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crbq12w?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crcgk32?context=3 Anyone has a take on the difference between spar, prize fighting and dueling? They seem all the same as dueling never is "to the death"... Makes me feel sorry for Adolin as Dalinar imposes him such strict rules now we know most Radiants would disagree with his take on honor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Anyone has a take on the difference between spar, prize fighting and dueling? They seem all the same as dueling never is "to the death"... Makes me feel sorry for Adolin as Dalinar imposes him such strict rules now we know most Radiants would disagree with his take on honor. Sparing is to measure your skill with your partner and to train, while dueling is for some kind of gain like the opponents shards. Not sure what the difference with prize fighting is, maybe a tournament where someone like the king sponsors the gain, instead of the fighters, meaning they don't really have something to loose? or maybe he meant to group prize fighting and dueling together. Edited May 18, 2015 by Edgedancer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindel Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Now I remember why I should keep up the habit of checking this place every single day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Sparing is to measure your skill with your partner and to train, while dueling is for some kind of gain like the opponents shards. Not sure what the difference with prize fighting is, maybe a tournament where someone like the king sponsors the gain, instead of the fighters, meaning they don't really have something to loose? or maybe he meant to group prize fighting and dueling together. It looks to me like he was grouping those last two together. -- The difference in kind between the sparing vs dueling/prize-fighting is pretty clear in my eyes. Even if you don't necessarily have anything to gain outright from a duel or the like, it's still a matter of fighting to hone your skills (sparing) versus for personal glory/acclaim/satisfaction/wealth (not-sparing). --- Some more answers: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/367b8j/if_there_was_a_smash_brosesque_game_for_every/crcb8lu?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crcbbv7?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/36aanq/wokwor_does_anybody_know_if_brandon_has_started/crcbrbt?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crco006?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crco2mv?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crcp1fm?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crcq0vm?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crctaqh?context=3 Some more interesting stuff in this batch: Aimians being very non-human, proportion of lighteyes to darkeyes, Nightblood destroying stuff in all 3 realms... Edited May 18, 2015 by Kurkistan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Sparing is to measure your skill with your partner and to train, while dueling is for some kind of gain like the opponents shards. Not sure what the difference with prize fighting is, maybe a tournament where someone like the king sponsors the gain, instead of the fighters, meaning they don't really have something to loose? or maybe he meant to group prize fighting and dueling together. Duels for shards are extremely rare. They occur perhaps once every two years, so they must be dueling simply to advanced in the ranks. I fail to see the harm in it. It looks to me like he was grouping those last two together. -- The difference in kind between the sparing vs dueling/prize-fighting is pretty clear in my eyes. Even if you don't necessarily have anything to gain outright from a duel or the like, it's still a matter of fighting to hone your skills (sparing) versus for personal glory/acclaim/satisfaction/wealth (not-sparing). I interpreted the WoB as stating most Orders would not agree with Dalinar ban on dueling and prize fighting. It seemed as if Radiants of the old had their own tournament akin to the king's championship Dalinar forbid Adolin to partake in. Just sparring must not be enough to hone your skill, an elite fighter probably needs contests to advance in his skill, much like professional athletes need the competition to move forward in their field. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) I don't disagree with you, maxal. The issue is confused by the phrasing of the original question, which I think might be causing us to talk past one another a bit. I'll put it all over for reference. Source: ThingsThatMakeMeMad: Dalinar insists that honorable men would not fight their allies, when Adolin wishes to spar. Would the knights radiant spar one another, or would they generally agree with dalinars point of view? Brandon: Some would agree but many would disagree. Do note there is a difference between sparring and prize fighting or dueling. So I read the original questioner as intending to ask specifically about dueling, rather than sparing, as does Brandon, I think. I am in agreement, then, with your interpretation that Brandon is saying that most Orders are fine with dueling. I just also agree with Brandon that a distinction can be made between the two: whether that distinction is enough to justify making the one (sparing) allowable and the other (dueling & prize fighting) forbidden is where some Orders diverge, then. Edited May 18, 2015 by Kurkistan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I don't disagree with you, maxal. The issue is confused by the phrasing of the original question, which I think might be causing us to talk past one another a bit. I'll put it all over for reference. Source: So I read the original questioner as intending to ask specifically about dueling, rather than sparing, as does Brandon, I think. I am in agreement, then, with your interpretation that Brandon is saying that most Orders are fine with dueling. I just also agree with Brandon that a distinction can be made between the two: whether that distinction is enough to justify making the one (sparing) allowable and the other forbidden (dueling & prize fighting) is where some Orders diverge, then. Oh thanks it does make more sense I was all confused for a while as I interpreted Brandon as saying most Orders would not frown on dueling, but the phrasing and the original question was weird. This is why I asked the question, I was unsure if I was reading it right. He did state many would disagree, I wonder which ones would actually think Dalinar is right and which ones not? It's easy to figure out Edgedancers and Dustbringers would strongly disagree (duel between the two must have been epic, imagine two ribbons of winds going for each other), but how about Windrunners? When Kaladin tried to cat fight with Adolin, Syl cut him of, but was it because she disagred with the intent (sparring, dueling) or was it because the fight was too unfair (surgebinder against non surgebinder)? I now have this internal image of Radiants tournament with a crowned champion and each Order pushing forward for their best fighters to win it while the Bondsmith frowned from their vantage point. I also imagine the banter between Orders as the championship changed ownership, Edgedancers and Dustbringers having the most wins throughout the years. I really hope someone is going to tell Dalinar to stop being so rigid... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailliw73 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Concerning Adolin v. Kaladin, I always thought that was more of an intentions issue. Kaladin wasn't going to fight to practice against shardbearers to to hone his skills, but because he was pissed off at Adolin. I think the intentions of the duel would be a big part for at least the WIndrunners, and probably most orders. Would the duels happen out of spite and anger or because of an honest desire to practice and test themselves? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxal Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Concerning Adolin v. Kaladin, I always thought that was more of an intentions issue. Kaladin wasn't going to fight to practice against shardbearers to to hone his skills, but because he was pissed off at Adolin. I think the intentions of the duel would be a big part for at least the WIndrunners, and probably most orders. Would the duels happen out of spite and anger or because of an honest desire to practice and test themselves? Interesting. How about a tournament where every Order would send their best? The purpose would simply be friendly dueling and crowning a champion... Or how about the king's championship for that matter? Had Kaladin been a lighteyed duelist, would Syl object if he wished to enter the tournament? As long as he does not use his advantage and he fights fairly, would Windrunners be against dueling? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The links. There are so many. And Brandon has apparently found mercy in his heart for the Reckoners RP. http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crddfqr?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crddgfu?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/36aanq/wokwor_does_anybody_know_if_brandon_has_started/crddhs1?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crddjf7?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crddkpl?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/Stormlight_Archive/comments/36aanq/wokwor_does_anybody_know_if_brandon_has_started/crddky7?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crddn6r?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crde99n?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crdfaie?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crdno8z?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crdnpds?context=3 Most interesting one to me was the one on the moon scepter. Beyond the moon scepter being related to the proximity problem (that's one that's out of left field so far as I know), Brandon's answer also somewhat backs up my staunch and perhaps unsubstantiated belief that there's no need to make such a big fuss about the space rocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The one I found most interesting was nearly confirmation that Nale used a Regrowth fabrial to restore Szeth. (Unless anyone else can think of other 'hacks' of the magic system. I don't think Honorblades count, personally.) The bit on the Moon Sceptre being related to the 'promixity problem' of the magic systems of Sel resulted in an interesting theory by a redditor: "The Moon Scepter perceives itself AS the symbol of the the Rose Empire. In a sense, it thinks it IS the Rose Empire. Where it is, the dominion of the Rose Empire would be (much like a Roman standard)." This would essentially give Hoid the ability to do Forgery wherever he goes, assuming he picks up the ability. Very interesting theory, and one I like a lot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claincy Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) This would essentially give Hoid the ability to do Forgery wherever he goes, assuming he picks up the ability. Very interesting theory, and one I like a lot. Hrm, yeah that is an interesting theory. The further question then would be if the forgeries would stick if he left them somewhere away from him. Edited May 19, 2015 by lord Claincy Ffnord 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yes, Epics can have children. Epicness does not necessarily travel down the line, but it can. (I have to be vague here because of the next book.) At least one of David's parents was an Epic, this is now 140% confirmed. I will cannon you in the head if you disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 At least one of David's parents was an Epic, this is now 140% confirmed. I will cannon you in the head if you disagree. At risk of being headcannoned, I neither think this is the case nor think that it should be the case. My reasoning: If David's father had any powers, they had to have been extremely subtle. He made no attempt to use them even when his child son was in danger from an Epic, he displayed no corruption whatsoever, and he ultimately went down easier than the mosquito that was crawling on my computer screen a minute ago. If he was an Epic he must have been deliberately repressing his powers, and we have absolutely no hints or foreshadowing that he was doing so. You could make a better argument for it being his mother, but I think, again, this would have been brought up in some way. Certainly we would have heard more about her if such a big reveal was planned for her, and as far as I remember, she's mentioned all of three times in the entire series. Thematically, revealing either of them who managed to repress their corrupted nature would cheapen the blind faith in human goodness that characterized David's father. This is weaker reasoning, but I can say that this kobold feels the powerful prologue of Steelheart would lose a fair bit of its strength if this were the case. But, we're getting off subject. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 At risk of being headcannoned, I neither think this is the case nor think that it should be the case. My reasoning: If David's father had any powers, they had to have been extremely subtle. He made no attempt to use them even when his child son was in danger from an Epic, he displayed no corruption whatsoever, and he ultimately went down easier than the mosquito that was crawling on my computer screen a minute ago. If he was an Epic he must have been deliberately repressing his powers, and we have absolutely no hints or foreshadowing that he was doing so. You could make a better argument for it being his mother, but I think, again, this would have been brought up in some way. Certainly we would have heard more about her if such a big reveal was planned for her, and as far as I remember, she's mentioned all of three times in the entire series. Thematically, revealing either of them who managed to repress their corrupted nature would cheapen the blind faith in human goodness that characterized David's father. This is weaker reasoning, but I can say that this kobold feels the powerful prologue of Steelheart would lose a fair bit of its strength if this were the case. But, we're getting off subject. Kobold you're looking at it the wrong way. The answer is simple, David is adopted. Prof and Tia have been his real parents all along. (Does not think this is the truth. ) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 You are trying to logic my headcanon, but all I am hearing is "I wish I had come up with this insanity first!" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedancer Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 You are trying to logic my headcanon, but all I am hearing is "I wish I had come up with this insanity first!" Really, challenging Kobold, or any member of the question for that matter, to an insanity duel? Have you even looked at some of the stuff we post in there on a daily basis? Trust me, you'll need more to stand a chance on grounds of insanity. (You'll also need pugs. ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Kobold you're looking at it the wrong way. The answer is simple, David is adopted. Prof and Tia have been his real parents all along.And Megan will turn out to be David's hot twin sister.David: NOOO!!! (Star Wars reference, obviously.) Edited May 19, 2015 by skaa 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You are trying to logic my headcanon, but all I am hearing is "I wish I had come up with this insanity first!" You think believing one or both of David's parents became Epics six years before Calamity rose is insane? Remind me to tell you about the Official Reckoners RP Headcanon Concerning Calamity's True Identity™ sometime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I invented an Epic whose ability is to turn peoples elbows into chicken. His existence was very nearly just confirmed.Check and mate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Terrible. The Reckonverse is a scary place. But. By the powers of RSS, Feedly, and IFTTT, I now receive notifications for everything Brandon posts on Reddit. It's not instant because Reddit is silly, but it's something. Also, it looks like 3 other people had the same idea... So. I am linking entire threads because linking individual replies with only their parent is often poor context. http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crenyoo?context=10000 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crew6nx?context=10000 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/creu9se?context=10000 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crei05j?context=10000 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crehyy0?context=10000 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crecszg?context=10000 http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crecqwi?context=10000 I am legitimately giddy with how many replies we've gotten from that AMA so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I was particularly caught by this one, answering Kurk's question on Forgery. It seems my strong feelings that Forgery must procedurally generate content (else a stamp could not possibly hold all the information in the emperor's brain) were not too far off the mark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axies Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Asked about the "portability" of the Dor.He answered today.About using the Dor outisde Sel(I'm still on fanboy mode let me chill for a bit xD) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurkistan Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) Am I reading too much into this WoB? Source: Strayphoenix6: Elantris and Warbreaker are two of the best stand alone novels I've ever read. I believe Sanderson is planning on writing another Elantris book at some point down the road. Maybe after Stormlight 3? (Ey /u/mistborn - hint hint...) Brandon: I have to finish the Elantris books before I can write Mistborn Era Three (the series after Alloy of Law.) Era Three is planned to go into the slot between Stormlight 5 and 6, so new Elantris books have to come before then. So it seems like Brandon is saying that storywise the Elantris books have to come before the Era Three trilogy, suggesting interactions... Edited May 21, 2015 by Kurkistan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe ST Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Kurk this has been my understanding since State of the Sanderson December 2014? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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