Posted March 13 (edited) alr i have recently stumbled apon this and have decided that it is now the best way to rate any superpower or magic system. it goes like this: Can the power/magic system allow me to win a fight from a random guy with a shotgun? if not it fails. bad power not useful for combat. if yes, how many random guys would it be able to let me take on? post your assesments :b Edit: sorry, i wasn't aware that the word I was using was a slur spoiler for context here Spoiler I used the word hillbilly instead of random guy, again im sorry, just learned this. Edited March 14 by PinkPlasma 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 5th ideal Radiant, all the hillbillies. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 Fullborn, as long as you have metal then you take on all the Hilbillys in... uhhh... South Carolina? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 Mistborn is equal to roughly 8 hillbillies, based on Kelsier, or upwards of 200 hillbillies based on Vin. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 For Feruchemists, the number of Hillbillys they'd be equal to is dependent on how long they have to store in their Metalminds. A Feruchemist with no time would probebly be equal to 2-3 Hillbillys, a Feruchemist with a day of preparation would probably be equal to several dozen Hillbillys. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 An Awakener is basically a hillbilly on hallucinogens. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 (edited) Mistborn: kills the hillbillies with their own guns Edited March 14 by StanLemon 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 8 hours ago, Frustration said: 5th ideal Radiant, all the hillbillies. Hell, 3rd ideal Radiant could go for all the hillbillies. Heals better than Feruchemist, has Shardblade, and has Surges. I'd give decent odds to some 2th Oath as well (windrunners/skybreakers, lightweavers/truthwatchers, stonewards) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 Elantrian with prep time is equal to all the hillbillies. With no prep time, he better hope the hillbilly left his gun at home and is very bad at first fighting 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 Windrunner can win against an army of hillbillies, as with reverse lashing he is never in danger, so it's until he runs out of Stormlight, and then even with his Shardblade he can still kill dozens of them. Elsecaller can move to CR and soulcast shotguns away, so he will still win against any number of hillbillies. Unless there are sprenbillies as well, then he would have a much harder time in CR. The same with Mistborn, he can push shotgun bullets back to hillbilly that shot them, as long as he has steel. Are shotguns barrels made out of steel? If yes then he can keep going and resupply by scraping steel from shotguns. Most Radiants can heal, form a Shardshield, have a Shardplate, so they would be able to kill hundreds of them or more. Feruchemist, it depends on the amount of attributes stored, but Sazed's amount of attributes in WoA, would allow him to kill tens or hundreds of them as well using bodies of dead hillbillies as a meat shield. Fullborn, A-steel alone gives him win against an army of hillbillies, and with F-steel and F-pewter and F-gold healing he can deal with dozens of armies. Elantrian caught in Elantris can kill any number of them, as he can heal a lot, and draw Aons fast. Outside of Elantris, well, he could be killed even by a single shot, as without investiture to heal, he won't heal. Forger can forge himself to become a Hillbilly and hide among them. Awakaner, hard to say. He can kill one opponent, several as well. But he would have a hard time avoiding being hit by the bullets, Awakened clothes won't stop them. But he can create lifeless, and make them shoot other hillbillies, so only Awakener is able to create an army of Lifeless-hillbillies, or Awaken dead hillbilly's clothes, and hide among them, when they do all the dirty work and kill other hillbillies. With long scarves and clothes, he can Awaken them fast and kill fist Hillbillies before they shoot, or nudge their shotguns to miss him, which is the most dangerous part of the "fight" for Awakener. The more he will kill, the stronger he’ll become. So either he can kill 0, or thousands of them. So he is the ultimate boss for hillbillies. If this is Susebron we're talking about, then he can Awaken Hillbilly's clothes from speaking distance and make it suffocate them and then retrieve Breaths so he can kill any number of them, and create thousands of Liffless Hillbillies. Sand Master on a desert can kill dozens of them, but one hit can kill him. Sand Master on a Hillbilly's hill is just dead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 14 16 hours ago, PinkPlasma said: alr i have recently stumbled apon this and have decided that it is now the best way to rate any superpower or magic system. it goes like this: Can the power/magic system allow me to win a fight from a random guy with a shotgun? if not it fails. bad power not useful for combat. if yes, how many random guys would it be able to let me take on? post your assesments :b Edit: sorry, i wasn't aware that the word I was using was a slur spoiler for context here Reveal hidden contents I used the word hillbilly instead of random guy, again im sorry, just learned this. I never thought I would see the day when the word hillbilly had to be censured. Anyways I like everyone else answers. If you have infinite healing you will take on a lot more hillbillies than if you don't. As far awakeners go... the lifeless army of gun toting folks was my argument in favor of nalthis vs earth. The lifeless keeps those skills. And of course 10th heightening doesn't even need the sound of his voice Sus started awakening only after his healing because he never tried to awaken anything any other way. 10th heightening is literally with thought. So dope. No hillbilly survives that one. Can't pull a trigger if your clothes are ripping you in half. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 21 On 3/14/2023 at 3:59 AM, Stick The Savant said: Elantrian with prep time is equal to all the hillbillies. With no prep time, he better hope the hillbilly left his gun at home and is very bad at first fighting With prep and with slower healing (not elantris but still arelorn) they can set up the sheild aon, and then code for blasts to pass through. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 22 On 3/14/2023 at 4:59 AM, Stick The Savant said: Elantrian with prep time is equal to all the hillbillies. With no prep time, he better hope the hillbilly left his gun at home and is very bad at first fighting No no no elantrian could just sit there being shot until all the amo is used in the whole world if they come to elantris and if they don’t then they are prepared sandmasters would be decent maybe like half a dozen hillbillies and a koloss would take out probably like 4 or 5 a kandra could take a bunch of hits they would probably only get in trouble when the hillbillies took out grenades or dynamite TLM spoilers Spoiler We’ve seen aether bound vs hillbillies but they had dor so maybe the would only beat about as many as a sand master Dah kor monk probably a bit more than a koloss ToTES spoilers Spoiler A spore eater would probably take down a lot but when they get surrounded they would be in trouble A shade would only fall to that one paranoid farmer who keeps silver bullets for werewolves 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted Friday at 01:47 AM I imagine a Kandra who comes prepared could take ALL the hillbil-- angry people with shotguns. Simply put, a Kandra with metal bones who has taken the shape of, say, a Rhino, or even a Chasmfiend (if they ever come across one) would be fairly indestructible by conventional weaponry; the thick skin of the body is able to regenerate rapidly, the essential organs can be tucked within a specialised metal shell, the bones will be substantially more durable, not to mention the fact that they can augment their natural weapons with metal, or even their own shotguns themselves! Metal Rhino with built-in machine guns, anyone? Simply put, a Kandra could basically be a living, self-repairing tanks if they wanted. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted Friday at 12:14 PM 10 hours ago, a Faceless Immortal said: Simply put, a Kandra with metal bones who has taken the shape of, say, a Rhino, or even a Chasmfiend They can't become a Chasmfiend Spoiler NeedsAdjustment Would a kandra be able to imitate a chasmfiend, given enough time? Brandon Sanderson It's not about time, it's about mass. A little one, sure. A full grown one? They'd crush themselves. They'd need to be able to make use of symbiotic spren bonds from Roshar, which isn't just a matter of digesting a body. Stormlight Three Update #4 (Oct. 5, 2016) Metal bones can also be damaged by bullets, but that's a good strategy for a Kandra. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted Friday at 08:06 PM Someone with a bunch of pouches of spores and a full face mask can take on maybe 2 or 3. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted Saturday at 12:13 AM 11 hours ago, alder24 said: They can't become a Chasmfiend Reveal hidden contents NeedsAdjustment Would a kandra be able to imitate a chasmfiend, given enough time? Brandon Sanderson It's not about time, it's about mass. A little one, sure. A full grown one? They'd crush themselves. They'd need to be able to make use of symbiotic spren bonds from Roshar, which isn't just a matter of digesting a body. Stormlight Three Update #4 (Oct. 5, 2016) Valid point, it's been a while since I last read SA and I had forgotten about the symbiotic spren (and also the fact that Roshar also just has weaker gravity if I recall). 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
