Araris Valerian Posted March 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Cycle 2 will go up in about 45 minutes, and everyone has posted already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Ajah Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Got confused at why Araris was closing the cycle an hour early for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted March 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Cycle 1 has ended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted March 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Something about both accusations being wrong, but the Investigators continuing to search. And them being a bit more enthused than when some random person that wasn't the Ja died. Cycle 2 has begun, and will end at 5PM Eastern Time on Thursday the 23rd! Link to Spreadsheet Oracle Clues: Spoiler Cause of Death Location of Crime #3 Evidence Left Behind Hint on Corpse Noticed by Bystander Victim's Rank Suffocation Big City Natural Head Sudden sound Divinity Severe Injury Small Town Artistic Chest Prolonged sound Nobility Loss of Blood Road/Canal Written Hand Smell Working Class Supernatural Wilderness Manmade Leg Visual Peasant Poisoning/ Sickness Fields Personal Partial Action Slave Accident Sea/Ocean Invested All-over Nothing None Also the spreadsheet since Aman keeps pasting it: Spoiler # Player Name Methods of Murder Pieces of Evidence 1 The Known Novel Dakhor Ritual, Buried Alive, Shardblade, Rathbore Monk, Blackbane Leaf, White Clothing, Jam & Bread, Tonk, Ettmetal Cube, Book 2 Amanuensis Dagger, Black Frayn, Nightblood, Deepwalker, Dehydration, Dakhor Bone, Cremlings, Water Vine, Sunglasses, Hemalurgic Earring 3 Kasimir Tompher Poison, Rope, Highstorm, Meekers, Fire, Artifact, Trap Door, Fancy Dress, Medallion, Purple Blood Droplets 4 TheAlpha929 Steelrunning, Cut-away vines, Bloodsealing, Hook, Poisonous Sting, Crab Legs, Fruit Juice, Picture of a Flower, Cigar Case, Aon Tia Plate 5 Fifth Scholar Ettmetal Explosion, Aon Sheo (Death), Acid, Poisoned Needle, Aimian, Pot of Stew, Hoid’s flute, Ragged Cloak, Cracked Shalebark, Pet Monkey 6 JNV Jeskeri Cult Ritual, Bow & Arrow, Soulcasting, Hammer, Toxic Fungus, Bright Green Hat, Tar-Lined Bag, Metal Flakes, Hog, Abstract Art 7 _Stick_ Sandling, Drowning, Burned at the Stake, Grandbow, Explosion, Forged Painting, Chull Dung, White Sand, Half-Eaten Pancakes, Spanreed 8 Matrim's Dice Cliff, Martial Arts, Mistwraith, The Bands of Mourning , Dueling Cane, Saddle Strap, Crem , Artisan’s Script, Rotspren, Moon Scepter 9 The Wandering Wizard Firesnap Lizards, Coins, Sword, Backbreaker Powder, Pistol, Horneater Lager, Corroded Silver, Firemoss, Bullet Casings, Pet Lizard 10 Archer Parshendi, Obsidian Axe, Silver Knife, Dreok's Axe, Stone, Claw Marks, God Beyond Shrine, Black Sphere, Tarachin Ball, Make Up 11 Ashbringer Hemalurgic Spike, Koloss Blade, Enhanced Strength, Chasmfiend, Shardplate, Chouta, Portrait, Fashion Magazine, Bloodseal, Wine Bottle 12 Telrao Venomous Bite, Lifeless Soldier, Hemalurgic Chimera, Deathants, Air-powered Crossbow, Tools, Aon Kii, Discarded Weapon, Forgery Seal, Soulcast Metal 13 StrikerEZ Betrayal, Garotte, Poisoned Dart, Blood Loss, Lost Divine Breath, MaiPon Sticks, Mistcloak, Colorful Scarf, Empty Pouch, Lucky Hat 14 |TJ| Surgebinding, Awakened Rope, Glass Dagger, Torture, Nightmaw, Red Flag, Aluminum Ingots, Death Rattle, Map, Hallandren Dyes 15 Tani Booby Trap, Suffocation, Kandra Digestive Acids, Scarf, Duel, Scorch marks, Invitation, Child's Toy, Grey Patch, Words Inscribed in Steel 16 Sart Whitespine, The Shaod, Fenweed Poison, Aon Daa (Power), Lashing, Religious Text, Hairpin, Safehand Glove, Shu-Korath Pendant, Lockpicks 17 xinoehp512 Birchbane, Strangle, Aon Tia (Transportation), Atium, Essence Marks, RaiDel Pepper, Dust, Riddle, Vandalized Statue, Cracked Gemstone Player List: Spoiler @The Known Novel - A Witness @Amanuensis - Ara’Araman @Kasimir - Aurel Kourakis @TheAlpha929 - Alpha @Fifth Scholar - Athanasius @JNV - Ajeni @_Stick_ - Attic @Matrim's Dice - Assassin @The Wandering Wizard - Aragorn @Archer - Archer @Ashbringer - AraRaash @Telrao - Allswell @StrikerEZ - Adodin @|TJ| - Aanalan @Tani - Amoeba @Sart - Aesop @xinoehp512 - Absolute Anarchy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Elderly replaced with Invested Evidence Left Behind. Hm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Something about both accusations being wrong, but the Investigators continuing to search. And them being a bit more enthused than when some random person that wasn't the Ja died. Cycle 2 has begun, and will end at 5PM Eastern Time on Thursday the 23rd! Link to Spreadsheet Oracle Clues: Reveal hidden contents Cause of Death Location of Crime #3 Evidence Left Behind Hint on Corpse Noticed by Bystander Victim's Rank Suffocation Big City Natural Head Sudden sound Divinity Severe Injury Small Town Artistic Chest Prolonged sound Nobility Loss of Blood Road/Canal Written Hand Smell Working Class Supernatural Wilderness Manmade Leg Visual Peasant Poisoning/ Sickness Fields Personal Partial Action Slave Accident Sea/Ocean Invested All-over Nothing None Also the spreadsheet since Aman keeps pasting it: Reveal hidden contents # Player Name Methods of Murder Pieces of Evidence 1 The Known Novel Dakhor Ritual, Buried Alive, Shardblade, Rathbore Monk, Blackbane Leaf, White Clothing, Jam & Bread, Tonk, Ettmetal Cube, Book 2 Amanuensis Dagger, Black Frayn, Nightblood, Deepwalker, Dehydration, Dakhor Bone, Cremlings, Water Vine, Sunglasses, Hemalurgic Earring 3 Kasimir Tompher Poison, Rope, Highstorm, Meekers, Fire, Artifact, Trap Door, Fancy Dress, Medallion, Purple Blood Droplets 4 TheAlpha929 Steelrunning, Cut-away vines, Bloodsealing, Hook, Poisonous Sting, Crab Legs, Fruit Juice, Picture of a Flower, Cigar Case, Aon Tia Plate 5 Fifth Scholar Ettmetal Explosion, Aon Sheo (Death), Acid, Poisoned Needle, Aimian, Pot of Stew, Hoid’s flute, Ragged Cloak, Cracked Shalebark, Pet Monkey 6 JNV Jeskeri Cult Ritual, Bow & Arrow, Soulcasting, Hammer, Toxic Fungus, Bright Green Hat, Tar-Lined Bag, Metal Flakes, Hog, Abstract Art 7 _Stick_ Sandling, Drowning, Burned at the Stake, Grandbow, Explosion, Forged Painting, Chull Dung, White Sand, Half-Eaten Pancakes, Spanreed 8 Matrim's Dice Cliff, Martial Arts, Mistwraith, The Bands of Mourning , Dueling Cane, Saddle Strap, Crem , Artisan’s Script, Rotspren, Moon Scepter 9 The Wandering Wizard Firesnap Lizards, Coins, Sword, Backbreaker Powder, Pistol, Horneater Lager, Corroded Silver, Firemoss, Bullet Casings, Pet Lizard 10 Archer Parshendi, Obsidian Axe, Silver Knife, Dreok's Axe, Stone, Claw Marks, God Beyond Shrine, Black Sphere, Tarachin Ball, Make Up 11 Ashbringer Hemalurgic Spike, Koloss Blade, Enhanced Strength, Chasmfiend, Shardplate, Chouta, Portrait, Fashion Magazine, Bloodseal, Wine Bottle 12 Telrao Venomous Bite, Lifeless Soldier, Hemalurgic Chimera, Deathants, Air-powered Crossbow, Tools, Aon Kii, Discarded Weapon, Forgery Seal, Soulcast Metal 13 StrikerEZ Betrayal, Garotte, Poisoned Dart, Blood Loss, Lost Divine Breath, MaiPon Sticks, Mistcloak, Colorful Scarf, Empty Pouch, Lucky Hat 14 |TJ| Surgebinding, Awakened Rope, Glass Dagger, Torture, Nightmaw, Red Flag, Aluminum Ingots, Death Rattle, Map, Hallandren Dyes 15 Tani Booby Trap, Suffocation, Kandra Digestive Acids, Scarf, Duel, Scorch marks, Invitation, Child's Toy, Grey Patch, Words Inscribed in Steel 16 Sart Whitespine, The Shaod, Fenweed Poison, Aon Daa (Power), Lashing, Religious Text, Hairpin, Safehand Glove, Shu-Korath Pendant, Lockpicks 17 xinoehp512 Birchbane, Strangle, Aon Tia (Transportation), Atium, Essence Marks, RaiDel Pepper, Dust, Riddle, Vandalized Statue, Cracked Gemstone Player List: Reveal hidden contents @The Known Novel - A Witness @Amanuensis - Ara’Araman @Kasimir - Aurel Kourakis @TheAlpha929 - Alpha @Fifth Scholar - Athanasius @JNV - Ajeni @_Stick_ - Attic @Matrim's Dice - Assassin @The Wandering Wizard - Aragorn @Archer - Archer @Ashbringer - AraRaash @Telrao - Allswell @StrikerEZ - Adodin @|TJ| - Aanalan @Tani - Amoeba @Sart - Aesop @xinoehp512 - Absolute Anarchy SANKYUUUU KAMI-SAMA!!! Replaced Elderly which I think has to indicate that Slave isn't dragging us too far afield or Araris would have replaced that instead. Either that or some of the Elderly things are terribly off. And we now know the Evidence has to be Invested, so we can PoE that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 There goes my melee weapon / slave item theory, unless the latter is somehow invested. Is Firemoss invested? Will think about this more and get back with updated guesses and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) Oh alright. A first cut: Sart, Xino, Striker, Wiz, and arguably Fifth (flute is the question) cannot be the killer. EDIT: I also think that fact that the Evidence is Invested implies we can categorically rule out that Wilderness was meant to capture the Evidence. There isn't a good overlap between Invested Evidence and Wilderness related ones. But then that interacts interestingly with the Slave aspect unless it's directionally wrong... Anyway. Flagging Telrao and Stick/TJ for high preponderance of Invested Evidence. Edited March 22, 2023 by Kasimir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kasimir said: Anyway. Flagging Telrao and Stick/TJ for high preponderance of Invested Evidence. Telrao has Hemalurgic Chimera, Stick has Sandling, and TJ has Nightmaw. All murder methods that fit wilderness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Paradoxical Phenomenon Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: Is Firemoss Invested? Looked it up, and no, Firemoss is not invested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said: Telrao has Hemalurgic Chimera, Stick has Sandling, and TJ has Nightmaw. All murder methods that fit wilderness. Fair. Strictly speaking for TJ, it depends on whether you consider Hallendren dyes to count as the Tears of Edgli. Also believe that White Sand is clearly Invested. Aon Kii too, whether a Forgery Seal is or not seems a tad more controversial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 I think I have to abandon my theory on Wild Animals being out of play. The evidence left behind, which presumably means Evidence and not murder, can't be tied to both Wilderness and Invested, at least as far as I can see. Given that the category is fairly specific, I must conclude that the Method of Murder is something you would only find in the Wilderness, so I'm leaning way more towards animal attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 49 minutes ago, Sart said: I think I have to abandon my theory on Wild Animals being out of play. The evidence left behind, which presumably means Evidence and not murder, can't be tied to both Wilderness and Invested, at least as far as I can see. Given that the category is fairly specific, I must conclude that the Method of Murder is something you would only find in the Wilderness, so I'm leaning way more towards animal attack. How would Invested fit into that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: How would Invested fit into that? The way I'm reading the clue, the Piece of Evidence must be Invested. When we were both evil last game, this clue was really helpful determining what Evidence was left behind. I suppose it's possible the Murder was committed using an Invested Weapon, but in that case, why not use supernatural as the cause of death? Thus, we're looking for a Murder that can happen in the wilderness, which left behind a piece of Invested evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Evidence Left Behind was thought to mean Pieces of Evidence in the last round, pretty sure that would continue. Although it may have just been me purporting that idea, I don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Alright, I think I've cracked it. I am making an accusation! I accuse Archer of being the Assassin. I think he used a Stone to commit the murder, and left behind a Black Sphere. @Araris Valerian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted March 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sart said: Alright, I think I've cracked it. I am making an accusation! I accuse Archer of being the Assassin. I think he used a Stone to commit the murder, and left behind a Black Sphere. @Araris Valerian No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telrao Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Mkay... I've got my theories. I agree that my evidence looks a bit sus... uhm... THEORIES! I'm giving Amanuesis the sideeye right now - that is, Aman/[dagger or black frayn]/[hemalurgic earring or dakhor bone]. It's a bit problematic, though, as it doesn't really fit with the wilderness tile. Alpha is also suspicious - Alpha/ cutaway vines/ Aon Tia plate. This does fit with the wilderness tile, but cutaway vines could be accidental. Those are the two I have right now... still got some more investigation to do :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted March 22, 2023 Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: No. Dang it. Back to the drawing board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Do we reckon metal in general (such as Metal Flakes, Corroded Silver, or Aluminum Ingots) would count as invested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Just now, Amanuensis said: Do we reckon metal in general (such as Metal Flakes, Corroded Silver, or Aluminum Ingots) would count as invested? I think the first and third of those counts, but not the second. That’s just me though :P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Oh well there goes my alpha blood sealing idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telrao Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: I think the first and third of those counts, but not the second. That’s just me though :P. I agree with Mat - because metal flakes and aluminuim are used in allomancy... but would they count as Invested, or just used in Allomantic arts? Ahhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Oh well there goes my alpha blood sealing idea WAIT >.< There’s another bloodseal as a piece of evidence (in Archer’s list) that would tick many boxes but am not sure about the method of murder there edit: Stone, like Sart suggested? It’s found in the wilderness and will cause a sudden sound but again,,,,partial wound (?) Edited March 23, 2023 by _Stick_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: WAIT >.< There’s another bloodseal as a piece of evidence (in Archer’s list) that would tick many boxes but am not sure about the method of murder there edit: Stone, like Sart suggested? It’s found in the wilderness and will cause a sudden sound but again,,,,partial wound (?) That’s Ash’s list, actually. He’s right under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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