Posted February 23 (edited) LG92: After Mat Spoiler >>> Drake was DDoSed but survived! Mat was DDoSed! The SE Players have won! The subforum has been cleansed of the bot campaign! (Stand by for docs posting, player list update, and then AARs from both GMs.) Thank you to everyone for playing in this behemoth of a game, and thanks to @Elandera for IMing the clowncar, and @Fifth Scholar for calling shotgun and gunning it into the darkness of cyberspace with me Edited February 23 by Kasimir 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 (edited) Files: Spoiler Master spreadsheet Full rules doc Eliminator doc Dead-spec doc Player List: Spoiler 1. @Ashbringer as Ash the Amateur, a RPing college student - Thread Master/Veteran 2. @The Wandering Wizard as Emma, twin of Wiz, corruptor of all, avatar of the Kaos. - PM Spider 3. @Steeldancer as Steel - Pinch-Hitter 4. @Channelknight Fadran as Fadran the Guy From the Fellowship of the Thing Who Has Never Done This Before. - Troll/Confirmed Villager 5. @StrikerEZ as Kjell, an overworked, stressed out man who really needs a break - Lynchbait/Stab Voter 6. @xinoehp512 as xinoehp513, a newbie to the forum that is very puzzled that his name was already taken. - Multiquoter 7. @JNV as JNV - PM Spider 8. @Matrim's Dice as Matrim's Dice - Confirmed Villager/Tunnel Constructor 9. @Biplet as Biplet - SE Buddy/Meme Maker 10. @Araris Valerian as Metalcognition, definitely not an imposter of the founder of SE. - Meme Maker/Porch-Sitter 11. @Devotary of Spontaneity as Cecelia, Devona, and Saponin - Roleplayer 12. @Amanuensis as Adavantos - Goalkeeper/Troll 13. @The Known Novel as TKN (The Known (and Totally Kool) Novel) - Goalkeeper 14. @The Bookwyrm as Bookwyrm, the SE deprived Sharder who's doing this even though it might be a bad idea. - Analyst 15. @Tani as Mehelin, a random bystander who isn't Randby. - Roleplayer 16. @Archer as Archer, a player that's hellbent on PM spidering. - PM Spider/Gambit God 17. @Walin as Walin, the consistently befuddled and absent SE-er - Troll 18. @|TJ| as mad watcher - Wall Poster/Veteran 19. @dannnnnex as Danex - Tie Guy 20. @DrakeMarshall as Drake - Terminal Seeker 21. @Orlok Tsubodai as Orlok (he's Orlok right? I think?) - Pinch-Hitter 22. @Random Bystander as Random Bystander - Roleplayer/Tunnel Constructor 23. @Sart as Sart - Wall Poster 24. @Shining Silhouette as Silho, bootleg King's Wit - Discussion Leader 25. @The last Fae in the Woods as The last Fae in the Woods - PM Spider/SE Buddy Edited February 23 by Kasimir 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Spoiler haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah okay thoughts later 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 We did it! Messy ties worked out 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Just now, Araris Valerian said: My porch is still intact! 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Three things: I do not blame our loss on the abundance of scans. If Araris had taken an action that one night, instead of forgetting, I believe we would have won. I would go as far as to say the village was lucky to win Good game! Any further thoughts I have, read the elim doc for the full story. I think we beat the page count of the game. I’ll answer any questions people have but I’m kinda just tired of thinking about it so don’t expect me to write any essays on the topic >> 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Three things: I hate alignment scans XD I am proud that we survived as long as we did Many of the vents in the doc were so i did not explode in thread copying mat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Also thank you for naming the turn after me, tis a great honor <3 And to all the villagers: Before clicking on the elim doc or master sheet, guess the elim team. Cause I’d bet no one gets it 100% 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Matrim's Dice said: Also thank you for naming the turn after me, tis a great honor <3 And to all the villagers: Before clicking on the elim doc or master sheet, guess the elim team. Cause I’d bet no one gets it 100% OH WAIT I SHOULDN'T HAVE OUTED MYSELF HECK okay yeah guess, guess it 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Goodness seeing the actual flips finally is a heck of a thing gg folks thanks for running this absurd game Kas & Fifth 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Thank you Kas & Fifth for running this game. It was an honor to participate! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, Biplet said: OH WAIT I SHOULDN'T HAVE OUTED MYSELF HECK okay yeah guess, guess it xD You’re good, as I insisted many times during the game 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Good game, all. I'm still kicking myself over not anticipating the kill-blocking maneuver, but I'll chalk it up to the endurance element of the game being a bit much to handle at times. Thanks for running it, GMs, IM. Shoutout to @_Stick_. <3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I do not blame our loss on the abundance of scans. You guys actually got very lucky with the dice rolls. But now I can explain how this works, and this is pre-AAR: PM Spiders had two levels of RNG: first, for which of the fact categories they got - <Alignment, Role, Target, Action, Targeted.> If they got a fact category that was poorly populated like Alignment, then they straightaway got the fact. If they didn't, e.g. Target, then we RNG for which targeting info they can receive. In addition, PM Spiders do not receive info already known. So Archer would never receive alignment info, because we take it as known that as an Elim, this player knows the alignments of other players. This does entail that specialising in a player gets you more info over time. Edited February 23 by Kasimir 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 I have to say the entertainment value of this game was off the charts for me. Thanks for running a great game, Kas/Fifth! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Oh, and for reference, this is the PM that all DDoSed and Removed Players (orange?) received: You were DDoSed and are now a Removed Player! Quote Removed Player: You have been removed or DDoSed from the subforum, but have managed to reconnect and login. You no longer count towards your team’s wincon. You have no role abilities but may continue to discuss in thread and in any ongoing PMs you may have. You have one more vote, which may be used during any Day in the remainder of the game. Use it wisely. To be clear: -You are still Village-aligned and win with the Village. -You lose Pinch-Hitter and also Analyst. -You have one more vote, that's it, to be used any Day. -We no longer count you for parity purposes. Just as a slight in-game tangent meme, we've been sending this cat video to all dead players and would like you to make up one lie/embellishment about it. Fair warning, Wyrm thinks it is fairly cursed Spoiler 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kasimir said: You guys actually got very lucky with the dice rolls. But now I can explain how this works, and this is pre-AAR: PM Spiders had two levels of RNG: first, for which of the fact categories they got - <Alignment, Role, Target, Action, Targeted.> If they got a fact category that was poorly populated like Alignment, then they straightaway got the fact. If they didn't, e.g. Target, then we RNG for which targeting info they can receive. In addition, PM Spiders do not receive info already known. So Archer would never receive alignment info, because we take it as known that as a known that as an Elim, this player knows the alignments of other players. This does entail that specialising in a player gets you more info over time. This feels directed at someone but I can't figure out who :P. I like the approach. With all the claims in play and a loose expectation that I would never get something as good as a full role breakdown, the utility seemed low for an elim compared to say ensuring the NK went through. On this topic, I'll also note that the retroactive results were a terrifying prospect to deal with. I think Bip might have been outed for submitting an NK if the village had really gone after her and gotten good rolls. Edited February 23 by Archer 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 I knew something was off about the cat video Also I feel like our luckiest break might have been Stick subbing out o_0 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 (edited) Hi question from the wording of Confirmed Villager does that mean Id only ever find alingment info from them causel ike you say unlocks GM fact pool if role swapped away if so what would I find out if I scanned Matrim again cause you said its new facts This was fun the only thing that wouldhave made it better would be if I had a quokka related role but I mean the fake flip made up for it plus the alignment things were really funny honestly like I scan the one evil person who gets shown green I get an evil scan on a dead person like it could be a sitcom subplot the trials and tribulations of this one really unlucky spider Also thanks for PM spider data I was wondering and I was right about the one fourth thing ha Edited February 23 by JNV 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 Ctrl-F's my name in Elim Doc ... you guys just used my roles lists instead of building your own? xD Sorry I already looked, but you're right I wouldn't have. Thoughts! Spoiler I actually wasn't a Thug. Kinda wish I was. Would have been funny, but no, Kas made me immune to Removal which can't go to an Elim without breaking everything. Very happy I called JNV as UPS, I liked that part I also called Steel not calling out a second Lynchbait Thread Master worked and got Sart and Steel and that... okay Drake's right and he would have just shot Sart but hey I killed an Elim Don't know if I expected more or less mentions in the dead doc... I do feel like I/we played this game a bit... ruthless? We don't have flips, and near the end I basically threw out whatever alignment scans we had and just went pure Process of Elimination. Which was the play, because we could handle pretty much anything besides E!Confirmed-Villager!Aman, and if Kas made E!Confirmed-Villager!Aman then he's building the Elim team a steamroller but the PoE steamroller kinda ran over a bunch of people, and as mentioned there wasn't... really anything that Mat could do at the end. Maaaaaybe try and get a Drake exe, but that needs Drake to shoot not-Mat first, and I and a few other people would have a slight issue with that. Also there's one meme I want to do but I can't find the template for it ack 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 (edited) Just now, JNV said: Hi question from the wording of Confirmed Villager does that mean Id only ever find alingment info from them causel ike you say unlocks GM fact pool if role swapped away if so what would I find out if I scanned Matrim again cause you said its new facts Oh-- also, the specifics of CV (hi, that's me) was that I appeared village to any information gathering abilities-- Tie Guy, target scans, etc included. Just for anyone who didn't read the full rules doc. Edit: @Ashbringer I made that table D1, wdym If you mean I stopped updating it once you starting posting them, uh, guilty as charged Edited February 23 by Matrim's Dice 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: And to all the villagers: Before clicking on the elim doc or master sheet, guess the elim team. Cause I’d bet no one gets it 100% Spoiler Well no it wasn't my top guess but tbf I did persistently say I got village vibes off JNV, and I also did predict that you were the most likely elim Confirmed Villager I just thought a world where JNV was evil was a good deal simpler as an explanation And that had knock-on effects because of Orlok's Tie Guy scan and the fact that the elims were unlikely to be more than 6 players ...and in earlier turns than the endgame, I did obviously see fit to suspect both Archer and Bip But once again village JNV was sacrificed in the lategame due to pragmatism Also, sorry to the handful of villagers I DDoS'd look you don't go a 10 cycle game as a vigi without getting some blood on your hands >> 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 23 i’m so fn good at this game anyways, this game was pretty fun, I don’t think the zombie mechanic worked all that well tbh. I’d rather just get to hang out in a dead doc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
