Posted February 4 “My spren claims that recording this will be good for me, so here I go. Everyone says I will swear the Fourth Ideal soon, and in so doing, earn my armor. I simply don’t think that I can. Am I not supposed to want to help people? —From drawer 10-12, sapphire” ~epigraph for Oathbringer 86 Anyone else find this chapter opening to be extremely ominous? I think that it may refer to the 4th ideal of the Elsecallers due to their utilitarian and somewhat Machiavellian attitude. But the idea that the 4th Ideal of an order goes against the idea of protecting others is wild. Noticing this on a fresh read through of OB. Anyone have thoughts? Not much on the coppermind regarding this. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4 17 minutes ago, Brightlord Beezus said: “My spren claims that recording this will be good for me, so here I go. Everyone says I will swear the Fourth Ideal soon, and in so doing, earn my armor. I simply don’t think that I can. Am I not supposed to want to help people? —From drawer 10-12, sapphire” ~epigraph for Oathbringer 86 Anyone else find this chapter opening to be extremely ominous? I think that it may refer to the 4th ideal of the Elsecallers due to their utilitarian and somewhat Machiavellian attitude. But the idea that the 4th Ideal of an order goes against the idea of protecting others is wild. Noticing this on a fresh read through of OB. Anyone have thoughts? Not much on the coppermind regarding this. Have you read RoW? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4 I have but not recently. I read it when it first dropped and have been doing a reread the past three weeks to have it all fresh before reading RoW for the second time. I’m ok with talking about any point. I am on the coppermind pretty much the entire time I read any cosmere book haha. Why did you ask? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4 It refers to the 4th ideal of the windrunners "I accept that there will be those I cannot protect." This ideal is a way going against the idea of helping all people and the thought of the knight that wrote this are similar to Kaladin`s struggle sweearing this oath. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4 Ah. Thank you for the reminder. I loved that moment when I read it the first time. Poor Kaladin. Hahahaha. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4 The order of the ones recording in the gem archive is shown by what gem they use. Sapphire is for Windrunners Smokestone for Skybreakers Rubies for Dustringers, and so on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 4 Oh I didn’t know that!!!! That’s really cool. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 5 10 hours ago, Frustration said: The order of the ones recording in the gem archive is shown by what gem they use. Sapphire is for Windrunners Smokestone for Skybreakers Rubies for Dustringers, and so on. 10 hours ago, Brightlord Beezus said: Oh I didn’t know that!!!! That’s really cool. It connects to the table of Essences in the Ars Arcanum. Each order is connected to a gemstone, which is also the color of the glow of their Shards. Foreshadowed back in WoR ch 72: Spoiler Kaladin stared at the glistening length of metal, which dripped with condensation from its summoning. It glowed softly the color of garnet along several faint lines down its length. Shallan had a Shardblade. Where Garnet is the gemstone of the Lightweavers and the color their shards glow. . . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
