Araris Valerian Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 A couple of things: I’ve re-evaluated again on Stick, I like how she was engaging with Danex toward the end of the cycle. Also, remember Kas’s chart on Xino’s activity; he’s gone inactive now 5/6 of his elim games. It’s easy to lose track of things in monster threads, but I don’t recall any(?) significant engagement from him so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Araris Valerian said: A couple of things: I’ve re-evaluated again on Stick, I like how she was engaging with Danex toward the end of the cycle. Also, remember Kas’s chart on Xino’s activity; he’s gone inactive now 5/6 of his elim games. It’s easy to lose track of things in monster threads, but I don’t recall any(?) significant engagement from him so far. It’s interesting to me that your role has a detrimental effect on yourself. Do you reckon it makes sense with the nature of your active ability(s)? ED1T: @_Stick_ Do you want to just admit to Trolling Walin or am I wrong in my role guess for you? Edited February 1, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Bystander Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Elandera said: Hello players! Go read the rules. Copy/pasting from your GM PM, any docs you can access, and any other PM is explicitly forbidden in the rules of SE. It is even more important in a blackout format to not share the exact wording of your role. You can summarize (or even lie). But you are not allowed to use direct wording. Yeah, I went back ard re-read the rules. I think I missed that on my first readthrough of the rules. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quivil Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 @_Stick_ I just noticed that yesterday you asked if I was elim. The answer is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikerEZ Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Oh okay cool thank you Tani. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Random Bystander said: Yeah, I went back ard re-read the rules. I think I missed that on my first readthrough of the rules. My bad. It’s all good. Your aren’t the first person to make the mistake and certainly won’t be the last. Fortunately you didn’t post anything alignment related, which is when the real problems happen. Anyway, Trolls. Every night we can troll a player, reversing the nature of their action. Roles that can successfully be Trolled know the effect Trolling will have, but players are not told if they are trolled. (I think besides the info roles it should be obvious tho) Only players with Night abilities are affected by Trolls. Trolls actively trolling that get trolled instead render another random player immune to Trolling for one cycle The troll immune player is informed Edited February 1, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Bystander Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Amanuensis said: It’s all good. Your aren’t the first person to make the mistake and certainly won’t be the last. Fortunately you didn’t post anything alignment related, which is when the real problems happen. Anyway, Trolls. Every night we can troll a player, reversing the nature of their action. Roles that can successfully be Trolled know the effect Trolling will have, but players are not told if they are trolled. (I think besides the info roles it should be obvious tho) Only players with Night abilities are affected by Trolls. Trolls that get trolled instead render another random play immune to Trolling for one cycle The troll immune player is informed I can see why that would be a problem. Also, I can verify that this is all true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: It’s interesting to me that your role has a detrimental effect on yourself. Do you reckon it makes sense with the nature of your active ability(s)? ED1T: @_Stick_ Do you want to just admit to Trolling Walin or am I wrong in my role guess for you? Why would you think I'm a Troll when I wrongly interpreted the troll trolling a trolling troll consequence So no, not a Troll. But! I will protect you or Fae or Wizard tonight. Elims, try your NK elsewhere I might not protect anybody, so that E!Troll trolling me doesn't get a free kill. Is this many IKYKs sufficient? 7 minutes ago, Tani said: @_Stick_ I just noticed that yesterday you asked if I was elim. The answer is yes. Honestly I wasn't expecting an answer to that question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Why would you think I'm a Troll when I wrongly interpreted the troll trolling a trolling troll consequence So no, not a Troll. But! I will protect you or Fae or Wizard tonight. Elims, try your NK elsewhere I might not protect anybody, so that E!Troll trolling me doesn't get a free kill. Is this many IKYKs sufficient? Honestly I wasn't expecting an answer to that question... Could be cover So you’re claiming Goalkeeper or a protect role with different flavor? Do you think TKN is the E!Goalkeeper then? Or do you think 3 Village Lurchers is balanced in this game? Edited February 1, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quivil Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Honestly I wasn't expecting an answer to that question... Why ask then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 FYI if Stick is claiming a lurcher role that isn't goalkeeper I just flat-out think that's a lie Why would there be two differently flavored roles that do the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wandering Wizard Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tani said: @_Stick_ I just noticed that yesterday you asked if I was elim. The answer is yes. Okay, hello there first evil claim of the game. Do you mind answering if anyone who has died is evil? And would you like a PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: FYI if Stick is claiming a lurcher role that isn't goalkeeper I just flat-out think that's a lie Why would there be two differently flavored roles that do the same thing? I agree, but want to hear her explanation The biggest issue is that if there are any Village Protect Roles that have not already claimed, PLEASE don’t follow our example. We need to be aware that an Elim Troll can effectively get a free kill from whoever you protect ED1T: @Walin plz tell us ASAP who you Trolled N1 Edited February 1, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Could be cover So you’re claiming Goalkeeper or a protect role with different flavor? Do you think TKN is the E!Goalkeeper then? Or do you think 3 Village Lurchers is balanced in this game? I was just on a team with 2 lurchers and a thug Anything's possible, idk. 4 minutes ago, Tani said: Why ask then? I remember you and Aman planning to out you in LG91 in this manner - I thought you'd just ignore the question though. 5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: FYI if Stick is claiming a lurcher role that isn't goalkeeper I just flat-out think that's a lie Why would there be two differently flavored roles that do the same thing? I'm lying about some things, but not all things (role-related). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: It’s interesting to me that your role has a detrimental effect on yourself. Do you reckon it makes sense with the nature of your active ability(s)? Yes, it does make sense, and IMO the other part of the role is quite powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 minute ago, _Stick_ said: I was just on a team with 2 lurchers and a thug Anything's possible, idk. I remember you and Aman planning to out you in LG91 in this manner - I thought you'd just ignore the question though. I'm lying about some things, but not all things (role-related). So you village read TKN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: So you village read TKN? I mean. Yeah... He do be blue on my reads list 10 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Yes, it does make sense, and IMO the other part of the role is quite powerful. My role is probably more powerful. Malevolent Trolls should troll me Edit: Which is to say that they shouldn't Edited February 1, 2023 by _Stick_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: My role is probably more powerful. No, my role is more powerful! I refuse to make any guesses about the upper ceiling on power level of roles in this game, so I’ll just take your word for it. Honestly, the best part about my role is that it lets me chill on a porch and yell at folks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: No, my role is more powerful! I refuse to make any guesses about the upper ceiling on power level of roles in this game, so I’ll just take your word for it. Honestly, the best part about my role is that it lets me chill on a porch and yell at folks. Should any PM Spiders maybe be wary of sending you a message? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araris Valerian Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Should any PM Spiders maybe be wary of sending you a message? Um. I’m not the most chatty person, so they should be wary of said message dying off. But I’m in a PM already and neither of us has been banned, so I think that’s a good sign. There’s room for a couple more chairs on my porch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeldancer Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 Genuinely I have no idea what is going on. I'd have to go read like 15 pages just to find out why Dannex was exed, now Tani has claimed elim, and apparently there actually are soccer roles? I really want to keep up and contribute but this is getting kind of overwhelming, because the amount of content in each day just isn't slowing down at all. I'll try and get caught up tomorrow after I get all my assignments done today, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Ajah Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Amanuensis said: She meant RandBy, whoops tags ED1T: Okay so just so everyone knows I'm 100% going to protect Bookwyrm tonight since I'm troll immune @The Known Novel You probably shouldn't target someone tonight with the intent to protect, anticipate getting Trolled by the elims for free kill on a villager otherwise. I am willing to trust your judgment on who you target for now and won't ask but do exercise caution @Walin do you mind Trolling Bookwyrm tonight so we know that whatever result he gets it a lie @ Other Village Trolls: please Troll Bookwyrm too in case elim Troll decides to Troll Walin to stop the reverse My main thought process is to protect someone, who, if they die, I wouldn't mind, but if I don't get Trolled the elims still might attack there. Or Stick. Strongly considering Stick. 1 hour ago, Random Bystander said: Yeah, I went back ard re-read the rules. I think I missed that on my first readthrough of the rules. My bad. I know your pain, I can't remember if it was the last blackout flipless or a different game altogether, but I made a joke about the vanilla vs roleless distinction, which I later realized was illegal. 1 hour ago, _Stick_ said: I was just on a team with 2 lurchers and a thug Anything's possible, idk. I'm lying about some things, but not all things (role-related). And we still lost... Just waiting for you to be protect arso, but when you get Trolled everyone dies. Oooo, I kinda like that role idea. 28 minutes ago, Amanuensis said: Should any PM Spiders maybe be wary of sending you a message? Very covert method of asking if Araris is a vet. 4 minutes ago, Steeldancer said: Genuinely I have no idea what is going on. I'd have to go read like 15 pages just to find out why Dannex was exed, now Tani has claimed elim, and apparently there actually are soccer roles? I really want to keep up and contribute but this is getting kind of overwhelming, because the amount of content in each day just isn't slowing down at all. I'll try and get caught up tomorrow after I get all my assignments done today, I guess. Only one soccer exists, and it's not actually a soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanuensis Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said: Um. I’m not the most chatty person, so they should be wary of said message dying off. But I’m in a PM already and neither of us has been banned, so I think that’s a good sign. There’s room for a couple more chairs on my porch . Good to know! Would that perhaps be different if a PM Spider probes you for info my secret Spider is looking for a target 21 minutes ago, Steeldancer said: Genuinely I have no idea what is going on. I'd have to go read like 15 pages just to find out why Dannex was exed, now Tani has claimed elim, and apparently there actually are soccer roles? I really want to keep up and contribute but this is getting kind of overwhelming, because the amount of content in each day just isn't slowing down at all. I'll try and get caught up tomorrow after I get all my assignments done today, I guess. I’m very sorry for my part in that and have been actively holding back more to help. Good luck and look forward to your input! 17 minutes ago, The Known Novel said: My main thought process is to protect someone, who, if they die, I wouldn't mind, but if I don't get Trolled the elims still might attack there. Or Stick. Strongly considering Stick. … … … Very covert method of asking if Araris is a vet. I’d be okay with you protecting Stick. Also someone gets it! Also also I’m cool with v!TKN. Edited February 1, 2023 by Amanuensis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick. Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Steeldancer said: Genuinely I have no idea what is going on. I'd have to go read like 15 pages just to find out why Dannex was exed, now Tani has claimed elim, and apparently there actually are soccer roles? I really want to keep up and contribute but this is getting kind of overwhelming, because the amount of content in each day just isn't slowing down at all. I'll try and get caught up tomorrow after I get all my assignments done today, I guess. Ash and Wiz complied nice summaries of what we know, so if you're short on time maybe just go through this night turn thread (Ash's post is on page 1). The only 'soccer' role is Goalkeeper but it's actually got some SE background. Okay I'll just claim I guess. I'm a Seeker - the Terminal kind. So I can protect someone if I am Trolled. Luckily I happen to have confirmation of me being Trolled tonight because I did actually receive a PM last cycle despite what I said, from a PM Spider/Troll. I have convinced them to Troll me but didn't tell them my role (well now they'll know) because I don't know if I can trust them. They didn't Troll anybody N1 (evident cuz PM). If my protect fails and kills someone tonight, this player is most likely an elim. I will keep their identity a secret for now so that the elims don't troll them if they're a villager. So, I'll most likely be protecting myself so that if it goes wrong no one else pays the price - fortunately I will still be able to post in the thread and reveal the Troll's identity. If I end up killing myself, I'll use my vote during the day to see if that triggers my flip after the turn ends. So @The Known Novel probably don't protect me - but also maybe don't confirm that so that the elims' judgement stays clouded by IKYKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Ajah Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, _Stick_ said: Ash and Wiz complied nice summaries of what we know, so if you're short on time maybe just go through this night turn thread (Ash's post is on page 1). The only 'soccer' role is Goalkeeper but it's actually got some SE background. Okay I'll just claim I guess. I'm a Seeker - the Terminal kind. So I can protect someone if I am Trolled. Luckily I happen to have confirmation of me being Trolled tonight because I did actually receive a PM last cycle despite what I said, from a PM Spider/Troll. I have convinced them to Troll me but didn't tell them my role (well now they'll know) because I don't know if I can trust them. They didn't Troll anybody N1 (evident cuz PM). If my protect fails and kills someone tonight, this player is most likely an elim. I will keep their identity a secret for now so that the elims don't troll them if they're a villager. So, I'll most likely be protecting myself so that if it goes wrong no one else pays the price - fortunately I will still be able to post in the thread and reveal the Troll's identity. If I end up killing myself, I'll use my vote during the day to see if that triggers my flip after the turn ends. So @The Known Novel probably don't protect me - but also maybe don't confirm that so that the elims' judgement stays clouded by IKYKs. Noted. Being called TKN is gonna take some getting used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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