Open question

[Oltux72 Rambleman]

1. What causes the fluidization? What happens to stuff that falls into the oceans?
2. How do the rains work? This looks like the weather on Lumar is artificial.
3. Why does a dragon keep slaves? Why not just hire people? 
4. How does the life cycle of aethers work? If it takes sapient incubators, how were the first spores produced?
5. Are the mad aethers still sapient?

[Karger Unmade]

3 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

What causes the fluidization? What happens to stuff that falls into the oceans?

Bubbles from vents under the ocean.  I'm guessing that some sort of deposit of mineral is heated and that resales the gas but that one is just a shot in the dark.

3 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

How do the rains work? This looks like the weather on Lumar is artificial.

The whole planet is likely artificial(12 moons).  I imagine that the dead spores can dehydrate when on land and this creates water vapor.

3 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Why does a dragon keep slaves? Why not just hire people? 

He wants minimal interaction with the outside world.  Hiring people would make him a constant component of the economy and political world.

3 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

How does the life cycle of aethers work? If it takes sapient incubators, how were the first spores produced?

RAFO! (delivered in best Brando voice)

3 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Are the mad aethers still sapient?

They appear to have some intelligence.  I think they are kind of like cancerous aethers.  They still have the framework needed to make rational decisions but this is overpowered by their need to procreate.

[Oltux72 Rambleman]

4 hours ago, Karger said:

Bubbles from vents under the ocean.  I'm guessing that some sort of deposit of mineral is heated and that resales the gas but that one is just a shot in the dark.

Over much of a planetary surface for centuries? The amount of gas needed would be astronomical. And where does it go? Lunamar does not have the amount of air that would imply.

4 hours ago, Karger said:

The whole planet is likely artificial(12 moons).  I imagine that the dead spores can dehydrate when on land and this creates water vapor.

It can but it would still generate unpredictable weather. There is something Hoid either does not know or does not tell.

 

[dbulick Grand]

12 hours ago, Karger said:

The whole planet is likely artificial(12 moons).  I imagine that the dead spores can dehydrate when on land and this creates water vapor.

You are probably right, I had it in my head that the moons are artificial and the core aether on them struck a deal to chop up the planet into sections

Edited January 2 by dbulick

[Karger Unmade]

7 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

Over much of a planetary surface for centuries? The amount of gas needed would be astronomical. And where does it go? Lunamar does not have the amount of air that would imply.

We have volcanoes that do something similar(spewing vapor constantly for hundreds of years).  Even in our solar system their are planets and moons that are much more active in that respect.  You don't need much gas to produce the fluoridation either.

7 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

It can but it would still generate unpredictable weather. There is something Hoid either does not know or does not tell.

Its not as if the planet's entire surface has predicable weather.  Even on earth we have a monsoon season which had predictable enough winds for us to track and predict down to the day.

[Oltux72 Rambleman]

23 minutes ago, Karger said:

We have volcanoes that do something similar(spewing vapor constantly for hundreds of years).  Even in our solar system their are planets and moons that are much more active in that respect.  You don't need much gas to produce the fluoridation either.

But we are talking about a large fraction of a planetary surface and most of the time.

[Karger Unmade]

3 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

But we are talking about a large fraction of a planetary surface and most of the time.

I've put some more thought into it and I actually came up with a new theory.  I think the spores at the bottom are crushed to death by those at the top.  Some are also destroyed by lack of water (they don't get much down there) and other nutrients while still others are seared to ash by volcanic activity.  When a plant (or in this case fungus) dies under such circumstances it will release light gases like methane.  Methane will then bubble to the surface.  The only effect on climate that I can see is a high potential for some acid rain along with a higher temperature (methane is a greenhouse gas) but the right ecology could counter both of those effects.

[Oltux72 Rambleman]

17 minutes ago, Karger said:

I've put some more thought into it and I actually came up with a new theory.  I think the spores at the bottom are crushed to death by those at the top.  Some are also destroyed by lack of water (they don't get much down there) and other nutrients while still others are seared to ash by volcanic activity.  When a plant (or in this case fungus) dies under such circumstances it will release light gases like methane.  Methane will then bubble to the surface.  The only effect on climate that I can see is a high potential for some acid rain along with a higher temperature (methane is a greenhouse gas) but the right ecology could counter both of those effects.

The ships openly use fire. The planet would explode.

[Karger Unmade]

2 hours ago, Oltux72 said:

The ships openly use fire. The planet would explode.

Its not that much methane nor is it pure methane.  You will also get a lot of CO2 and NO2 not to mention a lot of sulfur compounds.  We also don't know the oxygen content in the air.  I'd be much more worried about the smell.  The oceans must be awful. 

Edited January 2 by Karger

[Oltux72 Rambleman]

7 hours ago, Karger said:

Its not that much methane nor is it pure methane.  You will also get a lot of CO2 and NO2 not to mention a lot of sulfur compounds.  We also don't know the oxygen content in the air.  I'd be much more worried about the smell.  The oceans must be awful. 

They are reported to not smell. The air on the open qcean smells better than a bit of preindustrial smog.

[Lightspen of the Glass Sea Darkeyes]

On 1/2/2023 at 0:41 PM, Karger said:

I've put some more thought into it and I actually came up with a new theory.  I think the spores at the bottom are crushed to death by those at the top.  Some are also destroyed by lack of water (they don't get much down there) and other nutrients while still others are seared to ash by volcanic activity.  When a plant (or in this case fungus) dies under such circumstances it will release light gases like methane.  Methane will then bubble to the surface.  The only effect on climate that I can see is a high potential for some acid rain along with a higher temperature (methane is a greenhouse gas) but the right ecology could counter both of those effects.

This makes sense. The spores have to go somewhere, as they are always being added at the lunagrees. I was wondering why the oceans weren’t rising as an effect.

This doesn’t explain why the seethe stops, though. But I don’t think we have enough information on Lumar to theorize on that yet.

Edited January 4 by Lightspen of the Glass Sea

[Oltux72 Rambleman]

9 hours ago, Lightspen of the Glass Sea said:

This makes sense. The spores have to go somewhere, as they are always being added at the lunagrees. I was wondering why the oceans weren’t rising as an effect.

What allows the conclusion that they are not? The islands and the lack of continents look suspiciously like the spores having already flooded the continental lowlands and you are just seeing the highlands sticking out.

[FollowYourMuse Gyorn]

On 1/2/2023 at 5:09 PM, Karger said:

Its not that much methane nor is it pure methane.  You will also get a lot of CO2 and NO2 not to mention a lot of sulfur compounds.  We also don't know the oxygen content in the air.  I'd be much more worried about the smell.  The oceans must be awful. 

Methane is a good theory, I was thinking along similar lines but thinking there might be some kind of bacteria perhaps that feeds off of the spores/ or dead spores and that causes oxygen buildup and release similar to methane release. 

 

[RaeTheRaven Lighteyes]

On 04/01/2023 at 11:34 AM, Oltux72 said:

What allows the conclusion that they are not? The islands and the lack of continents look suspiciously like the spores having already flooded the continental lowlands and you are just seeing the highlands sticking out.

This was also my thought. It sounds as if the spores are slowly covering the entire planet. 

[GeoMantrix Bridgeman]

I figured some kind of big thing down there is breathing.  One of the applications of fluidized sand is low friction beds for people at high risk of bedsores. 

In answer to Hoid's question of whether one sees blackness, our visual neurons fire with dark stimuli and don't fire with light stimuli.