Posted November 27, 2022 Whoever they are, they're clearly after Wit, and they feel that getting to Nomad/Sigzil/Aux will help them get to Wit. But is it possible that the Night Brigade is a benevolent group? Obviously the name sounds ominous, but that's based on humanities predisposition to night time on earth. Things are vastly different in the Cosmere, eh? A branch thought off of this...Nomad says to Wit that if he stays, the Night Brigade will catch up to him, then use him to trace the Dawnshard back to Wit...so my secondary question....did Wit and Sigzil hold the same Dawnshard? So, sooo looking forward to these books! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 27, 2022 They are a mercenary group from Threnody. It's possible that they are hunting the Dawnshard/Hoid for their own ends, but equally likely that they have an employer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 28, 2022 I think Brandon did confirm that Hoid and Sigzil held the same Dawnshard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 9:26 AM, Harrycrapper said: I think Brandon did confirm that Hoid and Sigzil held the same Dawnshard He did! Relevant WOB below. AdelRD Should we assume that Sigzil’s Dawnshard is the same that Hoid used to have? Brandon Sanderson Sigzil, at one point, held the same Dawnshard that Hoid used to have. I phrased that very intentionally. Secret Project #4 Reveal and Livestream (March 29, 2022) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2022 As Brandon says, he phrases it very intentionally. Sigzil didn’t become the Dawnshard like Rysn and presumably Hoid did. He held it, at one point. (emphasis mine) Some shenanigans regarding exact wording seem to be at play here. Did he become another Dawnshard and temporarily held Hoids old one? Can’t be two Dawnshards at once presumably. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, King-A-Train said: As Brandon says, he phrases it very intentionally. Sigzil didn’t become the Dawnshard like Rysn and presumably Hoid did. He held it, at one point. (emphasis mine) Some shenanigans regarding exact wording seem to be at play here. Did he become another Dawnshard and temporarily held Hoids old one? Can’t be two Dawnshards at once presumably. It could be funny if it actually Sigzil`s spren (aux) who became a dawnshard and Sigzil held him as a shardblade. I don`t think this is the case because Sigzil got the torment but maybe there is some weird reason he got it without actully beeing the dawnshard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 30, 2022 4 hours ago, King-A-Train said: As Brandon says, he phrases it very intentionally. Sigzil didn’t become the Dawnshard like Rysn and presumably Hoid did. He held it, at one point. (emphasis mine) Some shenanigans regarding exact wording seem to be at play here. Did he become another Dawnshard and temporarily held Hoids old one? Can’t be two Dawnshards at once presumably. It's the same language he uses for Shards, Rayse was Odium, but he was also holding Odium. And why would you be unable to hold two dawnshards? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2022 16 hours ago, Ookla the Frustrated. said: It's the same language he uses for Shards, Rayse was Odium, but he was also holding Odium. True, but Brandon does word it in a certain way. Implies something is different to Rysn. 16 hours ago, Ookla the Frustrated. said: And why would you be unable to hold two dawnshards? Complete assumption on my part. Happy to be proven wrong on that one. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 8, 2022 Since we know Sigzil ends up being (and then subsequently not being) the Dawnshard that Hoid had once been, I think whatever is So Very Bad about someone having a Nahel Bond becoming a Dawnshard is what happened to him... Perhaps that's what "ended" his oaths? Perhaps also transformed his spren into "Auxiliary"? He does seem to think about summoning Auxiliary as a sword in the past, not just having summoned "a (different) spren" as one, and even succesfully does so at one point. The one prior WoB in that collection (preceding the deliberate mention of Sigzil having at one point held, past tense, the same Dawnshard as Hoid, as of SP4) is far more ominous... Quote Graciemoo8 Does Sigzil still have his Bridge 4 tattoos? Brandon Sanderson So... Um... Nobody... how should we say it? We will RAFO that for now. Secret Project #4 Reveal and Livestream (March 29, 2022) Nobody... What? Nobody from Bridge Four has their tattoos any more? They all Stormlight healed them off as their Identity no longer includes those Ideals? That would make me quite sad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 8, 2022 3 hours ago, robardin said: Nobody... What? Nobody from Bridge Four has their tattoos any more? They all Stormlight healed them off as their Identity no longer includes those Ideals? That would make me quite sad. Optimist. They are all dead but Sigzil. Now you can be sad. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
