Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: +1 to Devo's post here. Sith have incentive to manipulate in either case. I will note that if Silho is village, this means that the Sith did not have incentive to vote, which, assuming that he is dying today, is something we should consider in light of his flip. If he's village, I would put far more suspicion on the non-voting people yesterday. Ooh yeah very good point Those who didn't vote were <Ash, Mad, Turtle, Alv, Fadran> 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: This, meanwhile, is actual thanking the doctor. So yeah. More points against Silho. Idk I thought another day to live might have been fun. And also continuing the snarky attitude 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: This kind of post is indicative of Wizard's general style this game, which is one reason that I would be voting for him were I not invested in figuring out Silho's alignment (and suspecting him more) right now. Nothing in this post, despite its length, takes a firm stand on anything--it offers general terms for a blanket "condemnation" of the entire populace and leaves it at that. Even his last two sentences manage to hedge I actually didn't notice this 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: Similar vibes from this Bookwyrm posting, though this at least asks some decent questions about last cycle, and proffers some sentiments with which I can agree. Actually. Never mind, I revise my initial impression. This is the most V!Bookwyrm vibes I have gotten from one of his posts all game. Nonetheless, I think his interactions with Silho are odd, especially his well-timed defences of him last cycle, which were the kind of half-committal ones you tend to see from teammates who are afraid of the steel cords and group-seating bus @everyone is it bad manners to say "after my flip this will be true" Cause like my flip is happening no matter what I think especially with Mad's post 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: Wonderful. I am suspicious of Shining. I will agree the logic behind last cycle's trains was suboptimal or nonexistent. My vote was initially concerned with "not dying" and getting people to ask what in Braize Fadran and the others were doing, and then moved into a general preference of Silho over Xino, as Xino had seemed to at least be trying to address things while Silho seemed to take little interest in game-solving with his votes and was throwing them around rather haphazardly. In fact, this is/was my chief complaint against him this cycle as well; he has directed all his efforts into saving himself, and has repeatedly insisted the wagons against him are due to "elim influence," but he fails to take significant interest in who these eliminators might be, which is the chief thing contributing to my current elim read. It seems that the eliminators in the world Silho is trying to paint chiefly exist with their intentions to kill or frame him, and the identity is a minor bother that he'll sort out later. This is much closer to the mindset of an eliminator concerned with survival than a villager concerned with survival and with making sure suspicious people are identified and killed, etc. This can also be seen in his response to my request to him for dying words last cycle, where he failed to name any suspicions or leads specifically. ...Yeah These are the darwinian forces coming to slap me in the face for not properly villaging After this game I need to seriously rethink my playstyle 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: Probably the best Silho post he's made (because hey! it's analysis where he is sorting through people) but I still disagree with a good chunk of this, most obviously the v!Wizard and e!Fifth part. (and, shockingly, the e!Devo part, which I swear, if I am going to have to choke on my shoe after the game, I will: I currently v!read Devo...God save us all >>) Actually the reason I said E!Devo was literally just process of elimination Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe everyone on my train is village. Maybe Wiz is Evil. Maybe I'm evil and I just misread my GMPM 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: Why do you think JNV and Hael are the most suspicious on the Xino train? Cause I'm V!reading Mat and Wiz I'm planning on looking at said POE and nonvoters later in post 36 minutes ago, Fifth Scholar said: And, if the two main trains at the end of last cycle were both village, why do you think the Sith would prefer one over the other, see a need to divide their votes, or even vote to begin with? They'd probably prefer the situation we're in rn, honestly. As to how they would get there actually I don't know Dividing votes is something I've seen elims like to do as a distancing tactic especially if both are village Nonvoters also get scrutiny 10 minutes ago, Ookla the Myopic said: Quite possibly as I'm not certain I believe in E!Shining, though I've been combing through Silhouette's previous games to see how much he actually is quippy when not evil. Not a comprehensive analysis, just bullet notes on general behavior I notice you say this after I note that this is a villager behavior But jokes aside I'm still leaning towards V reading you 10 minutes ago, Ookla the Myopic said: I think I've determined for myself that Silho is quippy because of a style change not because of allignment indicative, the problem being that there is only one E!Silho game for me to look at and it was near the begining, before the style change. Yeah I agree with that. I don't know since I haven't had an elim game since QF63 (*cue eye rolls of my voters*—but it's true) I think it's getting more comfortable with thread and all that jazz 10 minutes ago, Ookla the Myopic said: I also marked Rules analysis with * because it's less common then it was back then and that was his playstyle more then. So I'm gonna stick with my gut on Silho. I gotta go back to the past, man 10 minutes ago, Ookla the Myopic said: But my gut is my gut and I've got to trust it. Thank you. I rely too much on people seeing past my suspicious playstyle and using their gut on my posts 36 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Are we really not voting this cycle? That is much the same thing as letting the eliminator team decide the outcome with vote manipulation, which most likely they literally did last cycle. Some of the people I pinged have weighed in on the vote discussion in one way or another, which is good, but I still think you should vote I like this very much. Drake if you're evil 36 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: Shining, I appreciate your analysis and regardless of your alignment I think I like you as a player, but right now I'm keeping my vote on you. Thank you, and I understand. Been thinking about what I should do if the genuine best thing is for the village to vote me out. First I was fighting it cause "guys I'm village this is a mistake" and whatnot and that's worked for me a lot actually just convincing people of my village tone. This game my actions are a lot more important, and honestly, they've been kinda bad. So I guess the best thing to do is give my input before I die. As Fifth emphasized repeatedly Thoughts The elims have no motive to vote this cycle so that's a place to look after my death. Most likely some will vote later in the cycle, or there's one-two on me right now. I suspect most lie in those who haven't voted yet My Poe from my earlier post is <Fifth, Fadran, Devo, JNV, Hael> and nonvoters were <Ash, Mad, Turtle, Alv, Fadran> Fifth - (changed to village read) Spoiler Quote I kinda just want more people to talk +1 Village Quote Between Szeth and Xino I still want Xino dead, though I don’t know if Szeth’s weird flip-floppy hesitance to shrek him reflects badly on Xino or on Szeth. It might be a bit of both. Right now I find both Mad and the Mad train a little weird, but I don’t want her dead both because she’s returning and because I feel her death would yield less information than either Szeth’s or Xino’s. Finally, I kind of want to issue a blanket condemnation of all the random poke voters and let them know that they’re on my radar Comments on Szeth and Xino and condemns both. Spends little time considering Szeth/Xino, might imply that he doesn't care which one? Honestly though the fact he commented on it might be villagery even though it's short Quote [Fadran votes me because of an amateur move] Yeah this vote does not make me feel good about Fadran, sorry Fadran defenders Has been pushing E!Fadran a lot Quote I will likely vote for Xino eventually (especially since the alternative is me ) but would rather not get locked into an either-or before it's strictly necessary. Not really sure that Fadran merits my vote anymore, though. I would switch to Silho for his vote on me, which is arguably the worst of the four, but also don't trust that wagon because Mat >> tonight, I will have reread D1 and given proper attention to things, and I will cast a better vote then. Shows preference of me over Xino for self-pres. I think this is villagery because E!Fifth doesn't care which one is exed. Quote Xino isn't a bad vote, really--I was willing to kill him last cycle and am still happy to do so--but I also don't want to get locked into a vote before I've reread things. Reluctance to lynch Xino... once again this looks good. Quote No. I’ll go back onto Fadran. Frankly, that vote makes zero sense to me. ..... yes yes strategically I should be voting Xino and it would help make sense of last cycle and I’ll probably do it eventually but I would really love for the people who have kept their votes on me this whole cycle to have to think through some other worlds first. The posts I've read so far have all ^^ my read of Fifth. I think I don't need to do much more reading. Fadran - slight elim but won't vote here Spoiler Quote Quote Did you paste this out of your doc? Mat voted for Silho, not Szeth, and that vote should have counted since it was before 01:00 and Kas's closing post. So there definitely was vote manip. I thought I’d pasted it from the OP…? Just thinking about hilarious this response is if E!Fadran When the VC was this: Quote Shining (1): Mat Fifth (4): Ash, Bookwyrm, Xino, Silho Wizard (1): Mad Fadran (1): Fifth Fadran says this: Quote Lots of votes on Fifth. I don’t personally see it, and I don’t think I’ll hop on the bandwagon again. Will probably go without voting this cycle unless something pops up. Says he doesn't see the Fifth train, but doesn't want to vote to prevent a Fifth exe? Think this is a little weird Quote Fifth Scholar, between you and Xino I’m going with you. Then later he votes Fifth as opposed to Xino? @Ookla the [Redacted] what?? Since I currently lean V!Fifth, I don't like this move because it doesn't seem to make much sense in terms of progression 7 minutes ago, Ookla the [Redacted] said: My jumpiness comes overwhelmingly out of gut feeling, bandwagon jumping, and just an overall lack of any real justification for any of my decisions yet. I remember feeling this a lot. Fadran seems weird, but I won't vote in self pres Info from my flip > Fadran getting killed from being weird Devo - null, not voting here Spoiler Quote Did you paste this out of your doc? Mat voted for Silho, not Szeth, and that vote should have counted since it was before 01:00 and Kas's closing post. So there definitely was vote manip. Snarky in a way V!Devo sometimes is :D. Quote Bookwyrm putting in a vote while making it clear he's willing to move it always reads suspicious but has historically never been so. Slight defense of Bookwyrm. Quote I'll put my vote on Shining Silhouette. What reasons do you have for being village that aren't threats? Doesn't give a specific reason. Quote Mostly because you don't seem to care who dies + casually reading people village, which is more common in elims who know everyone involved is village. Can't actually be sure that Fifth and Xino are village though, so this isn't a clear reflection on your alignment. Something weird is going on with Fadran and Xino but I'm not sure it's elim-indicative. :0000000 I didn't see this in my other post Tbf literally every game I've played I vil read everyone. If you look back you'll see that happened in all of MR60 and LG90 and QF63 I think Um, that's it I think. Yeah, not enough info there to vote. JNV - null Spoiler why was he in my POE he has one post null Hael - null Spoiler Read through posts, I don't have any comments The disengagement here probably points towards E!Hael more than V!Hael, but nothing strong enough I could vote on Ash - elim lean Spoiler Quote Of these... I'll toss a vote on Fifth to start. Mostly for leaving me on Xino all alone, but also hopefully to use a bit of what I learned in ye olde LG74 Votes on Fifth without a real reason Quote Slightly paranoid on you for taking the same ideas on Xino vs Szeth as me, then going Szeth while I stayed Xino - Xino did post, but their post seemed a lot like C1 thoughts summary rather than new things, which seemed NAI to me. But also of the Fifth-Hael-Drake-Alvron, I played with E!you before (or did so more recently) and thus have a bit more to base stuff off of. So thanks for a big post I'll look at it in more detail later Pushes E!Fifth, giving reasons. Quote Fifth. I had reasons for that vote, but they weren't reasons of suspicion, and of the several votes that followed I'm pretty sure none had reasons, which... I do not like. Plus Fifth got pressured enough that assuming we both survive I can at least look at something. I'm not going to replace my vote just yet, as I don't really have the time to think a target over, but I could be convinced to go on Xino or Shining. I should be on at End of Day, if not for long. Wednesdays are busy too. I don't like this post. I feel like Ash is disengaged, and that points to E!Ash. His retraction feels like "wow this train got out of control, staying on it will draw too much attention" after Fifth is exed. I feel like this because I lean V!Fifth right now and I don't see them being e/e. I suppose this read is dependent on my read of Fifth. He gives a halfhearted comment about going either Xino or Shining, but doesn't end up voting again. But why would he? E!Ash doesn't care at this point who gets exed. This is where I would look next cycle if I were alive Mad - slight elim Spoiler Quote After reviewing those voting for Fifth, joining them I find unnecessary. I will retract wizard and toss a vote for Xino to face trial by rancor I will. The reason bein', Wizard bein' evil would make sense only really if Xino were evil (for if two innocents were up for slaughter, why would a Cultist risk taking the heat by breaking a tie like that?). And interesting it is that everyone jump onto Fifth right after the votes for Wizard there are. Trust Fifth, I do not. Trust the people voting for his death, even less so. Okay so here Mad votes Xino, implying e/e with Wizard, then implies that Fifth train was to save Wizard. This actually has merit. I'm less confident about V!Fifth, but oh well I've spent too long being somewhat confident about it I don't have time to change my mind. Quote I retract Xino because not sure anymore am I, and innocent blood on my hands I do not want. To be fair, guilty blood I also don’t want on my hands. Really hard to wash off, that stuff is. Later Mad unvotes Xino. @Madagascar Why? Turtle - sliiiiight vil Spoiler Quote my thoughts exactly i logged onto the shard and was like ‘hey! that’s great!’ and then i was like ‘kas why ._.’ im assuming this has something to do with what happened last cycle? I’ll go read that but I need to work on this paper so it might be a bit, which really sucks. hopefully I’ll find some good time to put into se Vil read from this post Alv - elim lean Spoiler Missing from C2 Action If V!Fifth then this doesn't look good at all Anyway here're my thoughts village do what you will with them @Fifth Scholar my bad for the misunderstanding If Fifth really is evil I'm sorry my reads are terribly messed up Quippy!Silho will return MR61: You'llSeeTomorrow!Shining + Volatile Activity + Random votes = Quippy Chaos Casual Silho 2 hours ago, Fifth Scholar said: hmm yeah I am not really buying the enforced casualness here What if I really was feeling casual Sometimes you gotta feel the casualness inside you. And when the stress starts to come up All you gotta do is remember you're cool And casualness rules the world And being confusing confuses the Elims too —Silho out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 21 hours ago, Madagascar said: Hmmm. What this party needs, do you know? More wild accusations, is what I think. Alvron, death stick do you want? Made with Real Death(tm)*, they are. What are you up to? Maybe trying to KILL US ALL? "Ny shootogawa!" Sorry. Been busy. Managed to get my copy of Midnight Suns a day early and have been playing. New shiny toy and all that. 1 hour ago, Ookla the Tall said: Alv - @Alvron come play, we could use some wisdom. Wisdom? You're looking in the wrong place. I do instinct and following the Gods of Luck and Chance. If you are looking for guidance from the Gods of Luck and Chance, they say Bookwyrm needs to be very closely looked at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Man, I am so getting lynched if Silho’s village… (Working on analysis. Bit hard to focus on while at work, but I’ll get there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ookla the [Redacted] said: Man, I am so getting lynched if Silho’s village… Nah, you've been a little weird but I wouldn't gun for you next cycle if I was alive. What's your SE experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alvron said: Wisdom? You're looking in the wrong place. I do instinct and following the Gods of Luck and Chance. If you are looking for guidance from the Gods of Luck and Chance, they say Bookwyrm needs to be very closely looked at. Fair enough I guess Debates whether that’s enough to want to vote Bookwyrm It’s not, not when I have no guarantee of your alignment, even with your legendary accuracy. Though I suppose the ‘who would you shoot’ question is a different one. Though if Shining is evil your RNG may be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ookla the Debonair said: What's your SE experience? I once tried to join and Mat just gave me the role of an inactive elim halfway through a game that everyone was already sus of and got immediately lynched. So tons, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Ookla the [Redacted] said: I once tried to join and Mat just gave me the role of an inactive elim halfway through a game that everyone was already sus of and got immediately lynched. So tons, obviously. Then I think you're doing well. Quote Lots of votes on Fifth. I don’t personally see it, and I don’t think I’ll hop on the bandwagon again. Will probably go without voting this cycle unless something pops up. Why did you say this, then vote Fifth later? You did later retract it, but I'm just trying to figure out what you were thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ookla the [Redacted] said: I once tried to join and Mat just gave me the role of an inactive elim halfway through a game that everyone was already sus of and got immediately lynched. Oh I forgot you were a PHer. I just thought you played the whole game. Sorry about that, that’s not a great first experience:P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 When I'm dead, Fadran is under my ghost protection for like one-two cycles I'll be watching *eyes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ookla the Debonair said: Why did you say this, then vote Fifth later? You did later retract it, but I'm just trying to figure out what you were thinking? I was syncing remarkably well with the train vote - that is, I was pretty much perfectly aligned with it over time so as to look like an elim. If I recall, anyways. That was a good three days ago and I don’t remember anything past that because my memory of work days is particularly shoddy and crap. 1 minute ago, Ookla the Tall said: Oh I forgot you were a PHer. I just thought you played the whole game. Sorry about that, that’s not a great first experience:P. It’s all good. I don’t remember anything about it, so it doesn’t really count as my first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ookla the Debonair said: When I'm dead, Fadran is under my ghost protection for like one-two cycles If you’re evil, this is about the most annoying thing you could have said to a guy who hesitantly village reads Fadran xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 If they’re evil, then this is a last-ditch attempt to save themselves. I’ve started retracting my elim read but not enough to put it to null. I want to commit to a vote though, rather than leaving things up to the manips… Golly, my reads are shoddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Just now, Ookla the Tall said: If you’re evil, this is about the most annoying thing you could have said to a guy who hesitantly village reads Fadran xD *evil laugh* Sometimes you gotta make things a 'lil spicier. Some IKYTYKIK*, you know *I know you think you know I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Wait are you admitting to being evil Edit: Cause that’d be pretty convenient :P. Edited December 2, 2022 by Ookla the Tall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ookla the Tall said: Wait are you admitting to being evil I did some more analysis: Silho Spoiler Been shockingly undebonair this game Subconsciously this has influenced people to sus him because of incongruency between actions and username Quote Officially joining the V!Fadran club Said this. Hmmmmmm. I reluctantly agree with this. But since I'm evil and agree, this must be evil. Quote I wish we had PMs Me too ol' buddy. I could start conversations with you and everything would be great. Quote But what if I had a reason for that comment there and you played right into my hands :eyes: Nooo! You have all have played right into my hands Wait either way they're still my hands Are my hands being playing into my hands?? Hmmmmmm Quote Innocent tbh Lowkey was being honest In conclusion I have decided that I must become evil and that is the best course of action for the village. I'm not actually evil though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channelknight Fadran Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Sounds exactly like what an evil person would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Ookla the [Redacted] said: Sounds exactly like what an evil person would say But also what a good person would say. Unless they were trying to have a good time Hey you know what. I'm evil. Totally. Don't think about this too hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madagascar Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 hi guys out back for a death stick I went, what’s up? Oh. Carry on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Silhouette Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Madagascar said: hi guys out back for a death stick I went, what’s up? Is this a sign...? I feel like because you and I talked about death sticks that's why I'm going to die Quote Can I buy 17 orders of death sticks? ...Wait actually I only need 15 now that, er........never mind. Also did no one pick up on the fact that I was "fake"* elim claiming here? 17 other players, two dead? *I'm not actually evil though my lawyers told me to say that I was good*** ***Just kidding I don't need lawyers I'm innocent***** ***** I actually am though that analysis was work meant to be helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madagascar Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Okay, bad Moff feels about walking in on Silhouette making a valiant last stand and like a weirdo just dropping frogs out of my mouth. (In my defense, a big frog it was.) Asked I have been about why I retracted my vote for Xino yesterday. The answer is that something in Xino's words innocent sounded to me, and with all the accusations flying around, unsure I was what side to go for, so the Force told me to shut up for once and see what happened. Silhouette, vote for you I am not based on anything in past lives or "games." As an alien non-Sandersonian to your planet, unfamiliar with what the hell those arguments about are I am. The vote saving you unexplained it is, and concerned I have been about the secret voices corrupting our democracy. Proof of your evil it is not, but question marks in my mind you raise. Trust you, it is hard for me. If kill you today we do not, or saved by a secret for a second time you are, will tomorrow the same question be in our minds, from others distracting us? (*cough cough* ALVRON). In this particular galaxy unfortunately, to start chopping suspects in half and seeing what color lightsaber falls out, the only mechanic for determining any sort of true information is. Then move on we can to other suspects (cough cough ALVRON). I kid Alvron I kid maybe *smokes death stick of paranoia* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeMarshall Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Alvron said: "Ny shootogawa!" Sorry. Been busy. Managed to get my copy of Midnight Suns a day early and have been playing. New shiny toy and all that. Wisdom? You're looking in the wrong place. I do instinct and following the Gods of Luck and Chance. If you are looking for guidance from the Gods of Luck and Chance, they say Bookwyrm needs to be very closely looked at. yes but why no vote Oh Ye Of Little Faith Do you not trust the illustrious and ever chaotic Gods of Luck and Chance to lead you in the right direction? 1 hour ago, Ookla the Debonair said: *evil laugh* Sometimes you gotta make things a 'lil spicier. Some IKYTYKIK*, you know *I know you think you know I know Spoiler Entirely excessive IKYK-induced trolling is by far the most fun way to go out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvron Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said: yes but why no vote Oh Ye Of Little Faith Do you not trust the illustrious and ever chaotic Gods of Luck and Chance to lead you in the right direction? Because it's not the end of a cycle and I might be able to get a tie if I do nothing til then. My faith is absolute and unwavering. I'm sure you remember MR29. I have every reason to trust in my Gods. I trust them implicitly. However, they only told me that Bookwyrm needed to be watched carefully, they did not say why. 26 minutes ago, Madagascar said: (*cough cough* ALVRON). In this particular galaxy unfortunately, to start chopping suspects in half and seeing what color lightsaber falls out, the only mechanic for determining any sort of true information is. Then move on we can to other suspects (cough cough ALVRON). I kid Alvron I kid maybe *smokes death stick of paranoia* I admit, this has me interested. It almost sounds like you know of my rep yet in the same post you claim not to be familiar with players styles. Is someone warning you about me in Doc perhaps? Maybe we should see what kind of sabre you drop? *flexes fingers* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNV Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Hi I just want to say I exist but Ive been really really busy for the past few days I kind of lost track of the game a little bit so heres a bit of RP Ill try to get some actual game thoughts in once IRL stuff clears up but I just dont have the brain for that right now oh and by the way my pronouns are they them and nothing else thanks Ive seen some bits floating around Jev kept up the step-jerk walk as they stepped out of the bar, wearing Tilana Pavin's smile and cold intensity. No one followed them out. Good. They just needed to get out of eyesight, preferably in a place with multiple entrances and exits. It would look strange to have Pavin enter a place with only one way in and out and have someone else exit. The back alley was clear, and it had some offshoots for misdirection. They slipped into the shadows and began wiping away the traces of Tilana Pavin. The teeth were the first to go. By the time they'd left the bar, their gums had ached. Next, the lenses. Make-up was a more careful affair. Even a trace left on their face could implicate them. The next identity was relatively non-descript. A wanderer stopping by for a drink or two or five, soon too drunk for coherent conversation. They had the cloak, and a good bit of dirt in their hair and on their face would sell the rest. The fancy outfit of Tilana Pavin went back in their bag, and they were soon dressed in the tattered clothes of an ordinary person. Time to get absolutely covered in dirt. It was a bit undignified to be rolling around on the floor, but it was the quickest and easiest way to get the job done. Soon, they looked the part. Now to act like it. Body language had to be more clumsy and stumbling. Maybe they'd already had a few drinks. Maybe they'd had something a bit stronger. Voice... Rough, coarse, faltering. The voice of someone who was half-expecting to have the bartender stop giving them alcohol. They could feel the barest hints of an accent slip in, tumbling around their mouth like stones. Perfect. The alleyway was small, but it had a few exits, and they scurried away before anyone could potentially track Pavin. Now, they just had to wait for long enough that their entry wouldn't be associated in any way with Pavin's exit. The sun was past the horizon when they stepped back through the door. They sat at a stool at the end of the bar, perfect for the person they were pretending to be. The tricky bit was managing to seem like an unruly drunk while not actually getting drunk. It involved a lot of spilling drinks and casually pouring alcohol down their shirt. Several credits later, they were firmly established in the bar. They gave a quick glance around while leaning back and pretending to chug their drink. The bounty hunter was still there. Not exactly optimal, but they could work with this. They just had to be clandestine. It wasn't the end of the world. The bounty hunter glanced their way, and they fought the urge to flinch. Nothing draws attention more than someone with something to hide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haelbarde Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Access Complete: I have compiled a summary of all votes placed and retracted across this game, along with some supplementary information. Exhausted Statement: This may have taken longer than the information may end up being worth. Addendum: I am posting this now for what value it may give to others, but I have only managed to collate the information so far, and not actually spent time considering the collated data to see what can be gleaned. I will endeavour to do so before end of cycle, and vote accordingly. Cycle 1 Spoiler # Page 1 # == Cycle Opens: 48 hours to go == Szeth [Omniscient]: Pokes Devotary. Ashbringer: Pokes Xino. DrakeMarshall: Pokes Alvron. # Page 2 # Fadran [Redacted]: Pokes Matrim. Szeth [Omnicient]: Retracts vote from Devotary after Devotary RPs. Matrim's Dice [Tall]: Pokes Hael. Szeth [Omnicient]: Pokes Xino for not posting yet. Haelbarde: Pokes Madagascar for being a Jedi dropout. Wandering Wizard [Myopic]: RP Pokes JNV == 24 hours left in cycle: Page 2 of 6== # Page 3 # Fifth Scholar: Pokes Wizard for being unnotable. Shining Silhouette [Debonair]: Hello there pokes Turtle. Matrim's Dice [Tall]: Retracts Hael poke for having posted, votes Madagascar to add pressure. --Accurate vote tally from DrakeMarshall-- Szeth [Omniscient]: Retracts poke from Xino for having already been poked, pokes Ventyl. DrakeMarshall: Pokes Szeth (without retraction) for avoiding doubling up a poke vote. Bookwyrm [Perpetual]: Pokes Shining Silhouette [Debonair] for not having a poke vote yet. Fifth Scholar: Shifts vote from Wizard to Xino to get a response from Xino. # Page 4 # Fadran [Redacted]: Retracts Matrim [Tall] poke vote. Szeth [Omniscient]: Retracts from Ventyl, pokes Xino for activity. Szeth [Omniscient]: Retracts from Xino after Zone turns up and posts RP. -- Inaccurate vote tally from Xino [Forgotten] -- ---- >> Inaccurate vote tally: xinoehp512 (2): Ashbringer, Fifth Scholar Ookla the Omniscient/Szeth (3): Haelbarde, Ookla the Tall/Matrim, xinoehp512 Alvron (1): DrakeMarshall JNV (1): Ookla the Myopic/Wizard ookla the POKE VOTE/Turtle (1): Ookla the Debonair/Silhouette Ookla the Debonair/Silhouette (1): Ookla the Perpetual/Bookwyrm >> Accurate vote tally: Xino (2): Ashbringer, Fifth Scholar Madagascar (2): Haelbarde, Matrim's Dice [Tall] JNV (1): Wandering Wizard [Myopic] Wizard [Myopic] (1): Fifth Scholar Turtle [Poke Vote] (1): Shining Silhouette [Debonair] Szeth [Omniscient] (2): DrakeMarshall, Xinoehp512 [Forgotten] Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (1): Bookwyrm [Perpetual] ---- Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]: Votes for Szeth [Omniscient] believing that necessary to save themself from a tied execution. Szeth [Omniscient]: Votes for Xino in retaliation. Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]: Retracts from Szeth and votes Turtle to try and diffuse the situation. -- Inaccurate vote tally from Xino [Forgotten] -- ---- >> Inaccurate vote tally: xinoehp512 (3): Ashbringer, Fifth Scholar, Ookla the Omniscient/Szeth Ookla the Omniscient/Szeth (4): Haelbarde, Ookla the Tall/Matrim, DrakeMarshall, xinoehp512 JNV (1): Ookla the Myopic/Wizard ookla the POKE VOTE/Turtle (2): Ookla the Debonair/Silhouette Ookla the Debonair/Silhouette (1): Ookla the Perpetual/Bookwyrm >> Accurate vote tally: Xino (2): Ashbringer, Szeth [Omniscient] Madagascar (2): Haelbarde, Matrim's Dice [Tall] JNV (1): Wandering Wizard [Myopic] Wizard [Myopic] (1): Fifth Scholar Turtle [Poke Vote] (1): Shining Silhouette [Debonair] Szeth [Omniscient] (2): DrakeMarshall, Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (1): Bookwyrm [Perpetual] ---- # Page 5 # Xinoeph512 [Forgotten]: Retracts from Turtle and returns vote to Szeth, claiming to have made an error. Fadran [Redacted]: Votes Szeth to support their buddy Xino. -- Accurate vote tally from DrakeMarshall, pointing out the inaccuracies of Xino's tallies -- -- Accurate vote tally from Kasimir -- Madagascar: Votes Ventyle for something to do with drinks and deathsticks. Wandering Wizard [Myopic]: Shifts from JNV to Szeth as being the more suspicious than Xino at the tie. == 1 hour left in cycle: Page 5 of 6 == Szeth [Omniscient]: Shifts vote from Xino to Madagascar for being super active but almost enitrely RP. Matrim's Dice [Tall]: Retracts from Madagascar. -- Accurate vote tally from Wandering Wizard [Myopic] -- Fifth Scholar: Condemns Szeth to avoid last minute vote shenaningans. # Page 6 # Matrim's Dice [Tall]: Votes Shining Silhouette. == Cycle Closed == Detailed Tally Devotary (0): Szeth [Omniscient]{1} Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] (1): Ashbringer{1}, Szeth [Omniscient]{2}, Fifth Scholar{2} Szeth [Omniscient]{4}, Szeth [Omniscient]{5} Alvron (0): DrakeMarshall{1} Matrim [Tall] (0): Fadran [Redacted]{1} Haelbarde (0): Matrim [Tall]{1} Madagascar (2): Haelbarde{1}, Matrim's Dice [Tall]{2}, Szeth [Omniscient]{6} JNV (0): Wandering Wizard [Myopic]{1} Wizard [Myopic] (0): Fifth Scholar{1} Turtle [] (1): Shining Silhouette [Debonair]{1}, Xinoeph512 [Forgotten]{2} Ventyl (0): Szeth [Omniscient]{3} Szeth [Omniscient] (5): DrakeMarshall{2}, Xinoeph512 [Forgotten]{1}, Xinoeph512 [Forgotten]{3}, Fadran [Redacted]{2}, Wandering Wizard [Myopic]{2}, Fifth Scholar{3} Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (2): Bookwyrm [Perpetual]{1}, Matrim's Dice [Tall]{3} Final Tally Szeth [Omniscient] (5): DrakeMarshall, Xinoeph512 [Forgotten], Fadran [Redacted], Wandering Wizard [Myopic], Fifth Scholar Madagascar (2): Haelbarde, Szeth [Omniscient] Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (2): Bookwyrm [Perpetual], Matrim's Dice [Tall] Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] (1): Ashbringer Turtle [Poke Vote] (1): Shining Silhouette [Debonair] Official Tally Szeth (6): Xino, Drake, Wiz, Fifth, Fadran Madagascar (2): Szeth, Hael Silho (1): Mat, Bookwyrm Xino (1): Ash Turtle (1): Silho Ventyl (1): Madagascar Cycle 2 Spoiler # Page 1 # == Cycle Opens: 48 hours to go == Matrim’s Dice [Tall]: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair], presumably because of the vote shift from Shining to Szeth C1 Fadran [Redacted]: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair] assuming the vote manip was an amateur elim move. # Page 2 # Fadran [Redacted]: Retracts Shining Silhouette [Debonair] vote because of perceived inaccuracies in Kas’ tallies. Fadran [Redacted]: Votes Bookwrym, but retracts vote in nested spoilers in the same post. Fadran [Redacted]: Retracts Bookwyrm clearly. # Page 3 # Ashbringer: Votes on Fifth for abandoning him from the Xino vote (also references LG74?) DrakeMarshall: Poke votes Wandering Wizard [Myopic] Madagascar: Prefers to execute Wandering Wizard [Myopic] over Shining Silhouette [Debonair] believing elims more likely to want Silhouette executed. -- Inaccurate vote tally from DrakeMarshall -- ---- >> Inaccurate vote tally Shining Silhouette the Debonair (2): Matrim the Tall, Fadran the [Redacted] Wizard the Myopic (2): DrakeMarshall, Madagascar Fifth Scholar (1): Ashbringer >> Accurate vote tally Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (1): Matrim's Dice [Tall] Fifth Scholar (1): Ashbringer Wandering Wizard [Myopic] (2): DrakeMarshall, Madagascar ---- Fifth Scholar: Votes Fadran [Redacted] for getting away with sus behaviour on grounds elims want to avoid looking obviously sus. == 27 hours remaining: Page 3 of 8 == DrakeMarshall: Retracts Wizard vote for passing the vibe check in their response to poke. Bookwyrm [Perpetual]: Votes Fifth, assuming >= 1 elim on Szeth train, with Fifth feeling most likely. # Page 4 # -- Accurate vote tally from Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] -- Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]: Votes Fifth as they “can see him as elim”. Shining Silhouette [Debonair]: Votes for Fifth without reason. Haelbarde: Votes Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] based on the chaos they made with incorrect vote tallies C1 resulting in Szeth’s death. Madagascar: Shifts vote from Wizard to Xino, reasoning Wizard would only be evil if Xino was, else why risk the heat by breaking a tie. Fifth Scholar: Retracts vote from Fadran [Redacted] not thinking it meritorious any longer. # Page 5 # -- Inaccurate vote tally posted by Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] -- ---- >> Inaccurate vote tally Shining (1): Mat Fifth (3): Ash, Bookwyrm, Shining Wizard (1): Mad Xino (1): Hael Hael (1): Xino >> Accurate vote tally Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (1): Matrim's Dice [Tall] Fifth Scholar (3): Ashbringer, Bookwyrm [Perpetual], Shining Silhouette [Debonair] Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] (2): Haelbarde, Madagascar Haelbarde (1): Xinoehp512 [Forgotten] ---- Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]: Retaliation votes Hael, speculating vote manip was Sith actions to frame Xino. -- Accurate vote tally posted by Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] -- -- Accurate vote tally posted by DrakeMarshall (It is here I realise Drake did this for Cycle 1 already, but oh well. -- DrakeMarshall: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair] based on weird circumstances around trains on Silhouette and Fifth. # Page 6 # Fadran [Redacted]: Votes Fifth as being a better option than Xino. Matrim’s Dice [Tall]: Shifts vote from Shining Silhouette to Xinoehp512, being uncertain of the Xino train, but preferring it to the Fifth one. -- Accurate vote tally from Drake Marshall -- Fifth Scholar: Returns vote to Fadran in retaliation, along with impassioned speech regarding the lack of reasoning given for votes on Fifth. Shining Silhouette [Debonair]: Retracts Fifth vote in response to impassioned speech. Fadran [Redacted]: Retracts Fifth vote, muses Xino could be evil. DrakeMarshall: Retracts Shining Silhouette vote due to lack of support as an execution. Pokes Turtle [Poke Vote] instead. Madagascar: Retracts Xino vote being unsure and not wanting to accidentally execute a Settler. # Page 7 # -- Accurate vote tally from Haelbarde -- JNV: Votes Xino as does not want Fifth to die, doesn’t care between Xino and Silhouette but prefers Xino dies. == 11 hours remaining: Page 7 of 8 == -- Accurate vote tally from Kasimir -- -- Accurate vote tally from Xinoehp512 [Forgotten] -- Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]: Shifts vote from Hael to Shining Silhouette [Debonair], preferring they die to Fifth. Ashbringer: Retracts vote from Fifth as their vote had been for things other than suspicions, and the votes of the others on Fifth were more concerning. DrakeMarshall: Shifts vote back to Shining Silhouette in response to Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]. == 5 hours remaining: Page 7 of 8 == -- Accurate vote tally from Kasimir -- Fifth Scholar: Retracts vote from Fadran due to lack of support. Votes Shining over Xino as posts seem worse. Matrim’s Dice [Tall]: Shifts vote from Xino to Shining, though uncomfortable Shining seems chill about it. Madagascar: Votes to execute Kasimir and immediately retracts. Wandering Wizard [Myopic]: Votes Xino based on a village read of Silhouette comparing style of LG90 vs QF62. Devotary of Spontaneity: Votes Shining Silhouette, for their soft claiming Jedi. Shining Silhouette [Debonair]: Votes Xino in self preservation. # Page 8 # == Cycle Closed == Detailed Tally Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (4): Matrim's Dice [Tall]{1}, Fadran [Redacted]{1}, DrakeMarshall{2}, Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]{3}, DrakeMarshall{4}, Fifth Scholar{3}, Matrim's Dice [Tall]{3} Bookwrym [Perpetual] (0): Fadran [Redacted]{2} Fifth Scholar (1): Ashbringer{1}, Bookwyrm [Perpetual]{1}, Xinoeph512 [Forgotten]{1}, Shining Silhouette [Debonair]{1}, Fadran [Redacted]{3} Wandering Wizard [Myopic] (0): DrakeMarshall{1}, Madagascar{1} Fadran [Redacted] (0): Fifth Scholar{1}, Fifth Scholar{2} Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] (4): Haelbarde{1}, Madagascar{2}, Matrim's Dice [Tall]{2}, JNV{1}, Wandering Wizard [Myopic]{1}, Shining Silhouette [Debonair]{2} Haelbarde (0): Xinoehp512 [Forgotten]{2} Turtle [Poke Vote] (0): DrakeMarshall{3} Kasimir (0): Madagascar{3} Final Tally Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (5.): Xinoehp512 [Forgotten], DrakeMarshall, Fifth Scholar, Matrim's Dice [Tall] Xinoeph512 [Forgotten] (4): Haelbarde, JNV, Wandering Wizard [Myopic], Shining Silhouette [Debonair] Fifth Scholar (1): Bookwyrm [Perpetual] Official Tally Xino (5): JNV, Hael, Wiz, Silho Silho (4): Mat, Devo, Xino, Drake, Fifth Fifth (1): Bookwyrm Cycle 3 Spoiler # Page 1 # Fadran [Redacted]: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair] without a stated reason. Fifth Scholar: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair], not seeing an elim team that doesn’t include Shining. DrakeMarshall: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair]. Points out they assume elim vote manip without it being discussed, and that there’s a IKYK potential framing situation where it’s better to know for sure. Shining Silhouette [Debonair]: Votes for self in protest? Suggests will change after actually doing some analysis. # Page 2 # Shining Silhouette [Debonair]: Retracts self vote having finished sulking (their words). -- Accurate vote tally from Kasimir -- Madagascar: Poke votes Alvron. == 23 hours remaining: Page 2 of 4? == -- Accurate vote tally from DrakeMarshall -- # Page 3 # Wandering Wizard [Myopic]: Votes for Fadran [Redacted] for having got a sense of nothing from them. Bookwyrm [Perpetual]: Votes for Fadran [Redacted] for not real reason. -- Accurate vote tally from Fadran [Redacted] -- Matrim’s Dice [Tall]: Votes Shining Silhouette [Debonair] based on reads list, and believes knowledge can be got from their flip regardless. Madagascar: Shifts vote from Alvron to Shining Silhouette [Debonair] because getting saved is odd, and their death gives info. -- Accurate vote tally from Fadran [Redacted] – # Page 4 # == End of thread == Current vote tallies Detailed Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (4): Fadran [Redacted]{1}, Fifth Scholar{1}, DrakeMarshall{1}, Shining Silhouette [Debonair]{1}, Madagascar{2} Alvron (0): Madagascar{1} Fadran [Redacted] (2): Wandering Wizard [Myopic]{1}, Bookwyrm [Perpetual]{1} Standard Shining Silhouette [Debonair] (4): Fadran [Redacted], Fifth Scholar, DrakeMarshall, Madagascar Fadran [Redacted] (2): Wandering Wizard [Myopic], Bookwyrm [Perpetual] Edit: Further Addendum: Given no one has posted yet, I'll edit this to say that at this point we've spent enough time waiting around for a Silhouette execution, that clearing up their alignment so that people can all move on is indeed worth it. Now, if a better option comes up, then great, but I'll unlikely to be around to see anything, so help avoid another cycle of vote manipulation, I'll add my vote to Shining Silhouette [Debonair]. Edited December 2, 2022 by Haelbarde Reformatted into spoiler boxes to shrink the size of the post when casually scrolling past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashbringer Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Shining. I don't really know what to think. But the exe being one vote further of manip range would be preferred, and Shining has a few reasons between the C2 survival and their votes. Hopefully will be on for rollover, but class tomorrow is just watching a video so I may not be awake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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