Let's discuss (one tiny thing from) szeth flashback

[KaladinWorldsinger Artifabrian]

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/504/#e15784

This is the link to the szeth flashback chapter.

What I wanted to discuss is..... Molly?? Molly the sheep? How is there such an un-rosharan name on this sheep? Is this a placeholder name for the sheep until Brandon changes it ?

If not, I am very interested in how that name is there on Roshar.

Anyway let's discuss the szeth flashback and shin culture

[Quantus Most Ancient]

Molly,  Short for Mollallon (the Destroyer)

EDIT: In all seriousness, I dont think it's a placeholder just because it looks like he was using the <Dolt> bracket notation for placeholder names.  

Edited October 11, 2022 by Quantus

[Adamkarma Pahn Kahl]

21 minutes ago, KaladinWorldsinger said:

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/504/#e15784

This is the link to the szeth flashback chapter.

What I wanted to discuss is..... Molly?? Molly the sheep? How is there such an un-rosharan name on this sheep? Is this a placeholder name for the sheep until Brandon changes it ?

If not, I am very interested in how that name is there on Roshar.

Anyway let's discuss the szeth flashback and shin culture

Well. Shin are technically the least Rosharan humans. Maybe it's an Ashyn name? (Probably not but ahh)

[Returned Envisager]

It could be anything, really. Hoid comments on the oddity that Rosharans still use the term "hound" with axehounds, despite not having anything like the original thing "hound" referred to. Lots of odd etymology.

[Adamkarma Pahn Kahl]

37 minutes ago, Returned said:

It could be anything, really. Hoid comments on the oddity that Rosharans still use the term "hound" with axehounds, despite not having anything like the original thing "hound" referred to. Lots of odd etymology.

Plus all languages are diverted from Yolish, maybe some strange words stayed close to their Yolish counterparts?

[Crucible of Shards Artifabrian]

 

8 hours ago, Returned said:

It could be anything, really. Hoid comments on the oddity that Rosharans still use the term "hound" with axehounds, despite not having anything like the original thing "hound" referred to. Lots of odd etymology.

Szeth also calls a parrot a parrot, not a chicken.
 

What struck me the most is how similar young Szeth and young Kal are to each other in their desire to do things the right way and to do things perfectly. I am very interested in how their relationship will play out.

[Green Hoodie Mistborn Dakhor Monk]

I think its just retention of Ashyn stuff

[Shallan Stormblessed Returned]

On 10/11/2022 at 7:50 PM, Crucible of Shards said:

What struck me the most is how similar young Szeth and young Kal are to each other in their desire to do things the right way and to do things perfectly. I am very interested in how their relationship will play out.

I know! I really hope they'll become buddies.

[teknopathetic Dawnsinger]

On 2022-10-11 at 2:42 PM, Adamkarma said:

Plus all languages are diverted from Yolish, maybe some strange words stayed close to their Yolish counterparts?

I am not sure that is the case. For example, the Singers were on Roshar before the shattering. So there are at least some linguistic groups unrelated to Yolen. If we have 1, there are probably others. We do have Fain life, dragons, bug people, spren, etc. 

And there may have been other worlds with human people pre-shattering as well. They may have been entirely untreated language families. Adonalium seemed to be interested in creating pockets of populations, so maybe there were more human pockets. 

As well, we have planets and people created by Shards and we can't be 100% sure what happened there in terms on language creation. It is for sure possible that the shards just took Yolen languages and gave them to the people, but we can't be sure that is what happened. 

Edited November 1, 2022 by teknopathetic

[offer Oldblood]

2 hours ago, teknopathetic said:

I am not sure that is the case. For example, the Singers were on Roshar before the shattering. So there are at least some linguistic groups unrelated to Yolen. If we have 1, there are probably others. We do have Fain life, dragons, bug people, spren, etc. 

And there may have been other worlds with human people pre-shattering as well. They may have been entirely untreated language families. Adonalium seemed to be interested in creating pockets of populations, so maybe there were more human pockets. 

As well, we have planets and people created by Shards and we can't be 100% sure what happened there in terms on language creation. It is for sure possible that the shards just took Yolen languages and gave them to the people, but we can't be sure that is what happened. 

Plus, as the Stormlight Archive is about 11,000 years after the shattering (https://wob.coppermind.net/events/108/#e1355) or about this timescale it is possible that the languages diverged so much from the original Yolish that the similarities are no more noticable. In the real world linguistic, the oldest proto-languages are speculated to be about 8,000-5,000 years old (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-European_language#Historical_and_geographical_setting) and languages that diverged earlier no longer share any noticable similarities.