Green Hoodie Mistborn Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I personally am really enjoying these Mythwalker chapters. I agree they are very rough, and I'm super glad that many of the ideas were cannibalized to make other stories as those are integral parts of stories we love! The Khell power idea is a really fun magic system though and I'd love to see that expanded upon @Peter - with the 22 chapters of Mythwalker, how far into the plot does that get? Is there a synopsis of the planned rest of the book that we'll get to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Brandon says he thinks he was close to the end. I think he was at about the halfway point. There isn't an outline but I will discuss some things that would have happened. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliare Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Good. Because somehow I don't think getting Brandon writing what's left, even in a short story, is an option... Now I can see why Brandon and you say it's bad. But, to be honest, I've read far worse books. And I'm hooked twith the story anyway, even if it could do some improving. I like Devin. Even if he becomes uber all of a sudden. But I'm more interested in his 'human' friend. And pity Prince Kkeris had to die. T_T I want another chapter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordofsoup Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ya, Ix is probably the best character in the whole book. While I can certainly see the resemblance between him and Human, I like Ix much more. "As a human I am scared for my friend Voko. Is that not what humans say?" or something like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst21 Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Chapter 14 is now up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst21 Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Chapter 15 is now up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songstress Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Chapter 16 is up now - I'm enjoying reading this, now that I've finished the other books and can see the bits that have been cannibalized for other works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaderAt2046 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 I thought that it was they retain their Kkell power, but the power passes through the father's line, however the power that the child receives depends on whether it is male or female. No. The King and Queen aren't married, remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalyst21 Posted December 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Chapter 17 is now up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.S.A.M.K.M Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thing as he has used elements of this story in his other works, will we see the kkell power in another shard world. THe power must have a central reserve, for the skill while i could potetnially believe it could allow for faster learning, learning or seeing or speaking a word to learn something is just too much, there must be a central reserve that links the power holders. Everything a kkell powered person has ever learned, is stored. THe more thing he attempts the better and more powerful he could become. He is a swords man, but has he used dagger, knives, shields or lances yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulir Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Chapter 18 is up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Chapter 19 is up now too. I really love seeing the roots of Mustborn, Warbreaker, and even a little Stormlight Archive. Only three chapters left. Are Alcatraz annotations next or Alloy of Law? I'd prefer to see Alloy of Law next, but I can understand that Alcatraz fans have probably been waiting a long time for their turn. What I'd really love to see are Way of Kings annotations, but I guess those aren't even written yet. Oh well, maybe Brandon will write them while working on Stormlight 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Alcatraz annotations next. The first and last couple Alloy annotations aren't written. Brandon will probably write Way of Kings annotations during his reread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremen Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm really curious about that final priest Siri saw. The other arch-priests are all scheming politicians who probably would use Siri for political leverage if they knew the truth. But, I 'm also assuming the emperor is a figurehead like in Warbreaker, which goes against what the religion teaches as well. Assuming the high priests know this its curious how he could be so concerned with Hess's design. I believe either there is some greater truth to the religion ala scientology, or he's just going about politics differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliare Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 I'm also curious about that priest! He's... well, I don't know. For a split second, I wanted Siri to trust him. But he seemed so... so intent in killing her... I don´t know. And the emperor... If that many time has passed, I'm starting to think he's not only a figurehead, he's a very stupid figurehead, too. And... Now that I think about it... this is not Warbreaker... what do you think is the Emperor's Kkell power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremen Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 (edited) And the emperor... If that many time has passed, I'm starting to think he's not only a figurehead, he's a very stupid figurehead, too. And... Maybe he's just extremely moral and wont force Siri against her will... um, ya. Now that I think about it... this is not Warbreaker... what do you think is the Emperor's Kkell power? Good question. Plus what happened to his father? Koloss are supposed to live very long lives, and the emperor even longer. The current emperor is like ~20 IIRC and he already has a vessel to produce a heir. One can assume the same happened with his father. So what happened to his father? We also have NO mention of any other imperial relatives. Its a very safe bet, imo, this is to contain the KKell power. Also do we know what shards were supposed to be on this world? Since its presented as Warbreaker Prime I thought maybe just Endowment, the King gives of his power to his relatives after all, however I'm not sure this quite fits as it is forced surrender of power and not a voluntary giving. Then again Brandon could have easily changed his mind on exactly how the shard worked. Edited December 31, 2011 by Bremen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliare Posted December 31, 2011 Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Shards. Good question. I have the feeling that, even if many things have changed, the idea of Adonalsium, the shattering, Hoid, the Shards, the Cosmere... has been there from the beginning, in Brandon's mind. So there has to be a Shard in that word, splintered or not. Maybe two. Probably two, in fact. The dark lord that is supposed to be going to be reborn, and the one who gives the Kkell powers and so. In fact, given that this has ideas of many books, and not only Warbreaker's, I seem to find all the thing about a dark lord being imprisoned, the amount of Kkell power always being the same, a prophetised hero... more like a Mistborn thing. A Ruin-vs-Preservation thing, I mean. What you've said about only being an Emperor and no more imperial relatives for the preservation of the imperial Kkell power... yes, that makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremen Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) Theory: Imperial KKell power is the power to control the other KKell powers. While considering the no relatives problem and what happened if the emperor died with no heir I thought "well the priests could just adopt someone into the imperial family like they tried with kkeris". This naturally led to the question, "Where do the priests get the power to adopt/unadopt people." With the logical conclusion that it is the imperial kkell power. Either the priests take a kkell oath or they adopt themselves into the imperial family. Edited January 1, 2012 by Bremen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 (edited) That is actually correct as far as I know, but it never comes out in the chapters that were written. Though there may have been more than that. Edited January 1, 2012 by PeterAhlstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alliare Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 Theory: Imperial KKell power is the power to control the other KKell powers. While considering the no relatives problem and what happened if the emperor died with no heir I thought "well the priests could just adopt someone into the imperial family like they tried with kkeris". This naturally led to the question, "Where do the priests get the power to adopt/unadopt people." With the logical conclusion that it is the imperial kkell power. Either the priests take a kkell oath or they adopt themselves into the imperial family. Most likely a Kkell Oath, then. If they adopted themselves, for them to kill the emperor or use a TRUE not-of-the-blood figurehead would give them maximum power. Unless they're, somehow, eunuchs or unable to produce any descendence. And Peter says your theory is correct. But now I am wondering... Siri is the Vessel, but she retains her Kkell power... even thought she's told she's not part of her family anymore. What about the priests? Do they retain their original Kkell power? And how does one become an Archpriest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuoni Posted January 1, 2012 Report Share Posted January 1, 2012 I'm also curious about that priest! He's... well, I don't know. For a split second, I wanted Siri to trust him. But he seemed so... so intent in killing her... I don´t know. And the emperor... If that many time has passed, I'm starting to think he's not only a figurehead, he's a very stupid figurehead, too. And... Now that I think about it... this is not Warbreaker... what do you think is the Emperor's Kkell power? If the rumors from previous chapters are to be believed, his Kkell power is either removal or absorption of other's Kkell power. So he can say "drop ten Septs" and it will be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songstress Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Chapter 20 is up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremen Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Siri read a book. I'm starting to agree with Peter wrt pacing. As for Vvenna I tend to get really annoyed when characters who know X important fact just don't mention it at critical times. I'm never sure if the author is being realistic with character behavior or just doing it because the plot demands it. In this case most people there know House Sserin killed Kkeris, so not informing Vvenna just doesn't make sense imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAhlstrom Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 There are reasons Brandon realized the book was broken and switched to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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