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  1. This week we just did a review of Mistborn Era 2 AKA the Wax and Wayne novels. Help us by commenting what we missed, did wrong, or should do in the future!
  2. Yeah yeah, I know that's not how it works... but GOSH, DO I WISH. I'm new to the forum and (relatively) new to the Cosmere. I read the Mistborn series (all six books) last year and just finished the Stormlight Archive, including Edgedancer. Next on my reading list is Warbreaker and then Elantris. Professionally, I work as a graphic designer, but during my spare time I am a budding fantasy/sci-fi writer. I've been writing as a hobby since I was in elementary school, and have completed and published a few short stories. Now I'm working on my first novel, and Brandon Sanderson's approach to worldbuilding has been a huge inspiration for that. You're probably not interested in an autobiography, so here's some fun Cosmere facts about me: Favorite Sanderson book: Words of Radiance (though Part Five: New Unity of Oathbringer would be my top choice if a section of a book counted) Favorite Character(s): Wayne, Kaladin, Sazed, Dalinar, Wit/Hoid, Lopen, Shallan (in that order) Roshar or Scadrial: Roshar, unless I could live specifically in Alloy of Law-era Scadrial Mistborn, Feruchemist, or Knight Radiant: Mistborn Number of times Brandon Sanderson has made me cry: TOO MANY
  3. From the album My Art

    I can't believe nobody's drawn Wax and Wayne as Zenigata and Lupin before, it seems so obvious in hindsight
  4. Okay so I knew that Wax had a resonance (his steel bubble) but I this WOB stated that Wayne also had a resonance. My question came from this WOB. Any ideas on what it might be?
  5. My wife got my mom reading stormlight archives recently. Check out the cutting-board and tea coaster my mom made for my birthday!
  6. wayne jokes

    So, 17th shard, I've been here for a while and these forums seem to have everything Brandon related. Lots of theories, a library of WoB, amazing artwork, Role playing degenerated into a baking goods war... But there is something that deserves a place, a special place, and if there isn't one yet this is my convocation for it's creation. We need to collect those amazingly bright pieces of wisdom that Wayne is always spitting around and bring them together. So first, I'll start with this particular saying of his that has given me great insight into the true meaning of life:
  7. I have always loved the movie The Magnificent Seven. The original Seven Samurai is a triumph in movie history, the old one is a classic, and the remake was amazing. I have created a version of this, set in the time when Wax was a lawman. It doesn't follow the plot of Seven Samurai, it just has seven lawmen involved, though two of them are women. I'm almost ready to post the first part. It should be out Monday or Tuesday. Note: I am still working on Threnody short story, working title The Bard at River's End.
  8. Hey all I’m new in the forums and I had a few questions. I was listening to The Final Empire again and a thought came to my head when Sazed is explaining to Vin that he is a Eunuch. In The alloy of law Wayne makes a statement about having fingers blown off and having to grow them back. Now with Sazed being a feruchemist he has the same healing ability as Wayne so if Wayne is able to grow back body parts ie. fingers in this case. Shouldn’t Sazed be able to grow back his male genitalia? Is there something I’m missing that makes it so he cannot.
  9. This may very well be a crackpot theory, or already suggested, but that probably goes without saying. Honestly, it's one of those thoughts I just had to express before I went to bed, so... here it goes. I've been thinking about Resonance a lot lately because I've been looking at the MAG Era 2 books and wondering how it might manifest for different Twinborn. Wax's Resonance is strongly suggested by Brandon to be his steel bubble, and he's confirmed that Wayne also has one. I think Wayne's is tangentially lightweaving. I'll explain. On Roshar, we can see that the Investiture operates as a spectrum, with every Order sharing an ability type with an adjacent order, and each one having a Resonance unique to their Order. Resonance has been described as acting like wavelengths colliding and, in this case, would be the two powers of the Order resonating into the third. We've been told that Hoid had an ability similar to Lightweaving, and on Sel, we see an Investiture that mimics Soulcasting. It stands to argue that these wavelengths, though they manifest differently, are constant at least to some degree across Shardworlds. If you look at Wax's abilities, Steelpushing is very clearly similar to a Lashing. I'd argue Gravitation. His other ability, to alter his weight, he uses very similar to Abrasion (though an argument could be made for Tension). Between Gravitation and Abrasion is Division, which could easily be what his Steel Bubble does as it pushes objects away. Arguably, if this is his Resonance, then it falls in the middle of the Spectrum between his two natural abilities. Like on the light spectrum, if blue and yellow are his abilities, green is his Resonance. Which brings me to Wayne. His abilities are healing and bending time (/space), which seem to correlate to Transportation and Progression. Between those are Transformation and Illusion, both of which could explain his inhuman skill at taking on disguises. I believe that this talent either is his Resonance or is directly related to his Resonance. If this is true, and the powers really do operate on a constant spectrum across the Shardworlds, what ramifications might that have on other magic systems? Adding for clarity (from my reply below): My apologies. I clarified in an earlier reply that calling Wayne a Lightweaver was deliberately provocative; my actual suggestion was that his Resonance (in my suggestion, his accent imitations) are similar to the mnemonic devices gained as Resonance by Lightweavers (such as Shallan's photographic memory). I also did not mean to suggest that the powers had a direct correlation in the way they manifest, merely that there is a connection between the, as you say, Cosmere fundamentals. That is to say that, while Investiture manifests in various ways, it still manifests along a consistent spectrum, most obviously with Knights Radiant. If the fundamentals are indeed related, such as Gravitation on Roshar and Steel/Iron on Scadrial, then it has wider implications for how it might manifest on other Shardworlds or in different resonances.
  10. There is more to Wayne than he is letting on He is Fiercely intelligent, a fantastic actor as well as courageous; As such I'm never quite sure what to think of him. what is a facade and what isn't. How genuine is he really? I just cant seem to trust the guy. And then I had an idea Wayne is one of the 'Faceless Immortals' of the Set Yes, he has Allomancy but so did bleeder Yes, he's a blood maker but that is easily replicated by a Kandra. It was even said that MeLaan would have been a good choice for operation rotten tomato He has better mimicry than a Kandra You might say that he can't be a villain, he's a POV character, we would have known ages ago, BUT we've all seen how easily Wayne gets into character. When he does his thoughts AS POV changes And I think that BranSan has left enough foreshadowing to allow for it Tell me what you guys think? Is this a crazy theory? Too crazy? Just crazy enough to work?
  11. Forks. Knives. Spoons. But most importantly, Forks. Brandon Sanderson is as far as possible from random. Every word, character interaction, response, and idea matches with something else. Except Forks. Until today. There are two character’s we know of to have shown a fascination with these quad-pointed eating utensils: Wayne, and everybody’s favorite Ruin spiked crazy old Mistborn sensei, Gemmel. The obvious first thought (as shown in the thread title) is a blood relation, but anything could be. Reincarnation? Survivorist spin-off religion? Only time, and perhaps a WoB, will tell
  12. Ok, so I’m reading AOL again, and I noticed how the illustrator made Wayne carry a gun. Was this just a mistake, or is there some reason to it?
  13. Are we SURE it's Odium attacking Harmony at Scadrial? If Harmony had to divest himself of power to keep them away from Odium. He has admitted to being trapped and at odds with his dual natures in the final Letter in Oathbringer. I wonder what character he might choose as successor? Have you? Any thoughts?
  14. Ok, so based on what we know about lightweaving perception. And how Shallan must draw something before she can lightweave, do you guys think that Wayne would have to wear someone’s hat before he could become them via lightweaving?
  15. So I just wanted to see what other people on the forum thought of Wayne. Some of the stuff he says is so funny, but man do I hate that guy. I used to like him, but now that I'm rereading the Mistborn II series I've realized I really dislike him a lot. I just wish he had stayed in the Roughs and never come to Elendel. It's scenes like this that have been changing my mind about him: I was curious what other people had to say about Wayne. We get a lot of Wayne viewpoints, but every time I get a glimpse of him from other viewpoints I like him less and less. He kind of reminds me of Tonk Fah in Warbreaker in some ways. Like, I think if we didn't have so many Wayne viewpoints (and Wax viewpoints, because Wax likes Wayne), he would come off a lot more like Tonk Fah, a guy who sometimes says funny things, but really is just totally messed up.
  16. So after reading Alloy of Law I noticed that in the ars arcanum Khriss writes that there is something special about twinborns that she wants to look into more. She said that it's not just that they have two powers but "they have two powers and... an effect" That spiked my curiosity and I wondered if it would be explained in either of the next two books but they mention nothing of it in the story and the ars arcanum at the end says the same thing. Now at this point we've only met three twinborn, so we don't exactly have much to go on, however I tried deducing specific things that we see exhibited by the twinborn that might not be normal. The problem is it's hard to decipher whether the things I've found are just their personalities or if it could actually be influenced by their nature as a twinborn. Wax-- Wax seems to have a primal desire for justice and the law to be upheld. We see this throughout the series but especially when it talks about his time in the terris village and how he tipped off the cops for that one kid, and eventually had to kill him. Not only this but it seems that in the terris village he has a reputation as a person who would report anyone breaking the rules. Related to his thirst for justice is his overwhelming sense of duty. He is the kind of person who would always try to do the right thing whether it benefits him or not, as noted with his conversation with harmony. Harmony mentions something about Wax always tying himself to his duty and viewing it as the opposite of freedom whereas it doesn't need to be. He seems to be pessimistic in regards to himself. He always notes how he's getting too old and how the technology of the world is going to leave him behind in the dust. He doesn't give himself credit for all the stuff he does, and he often views bad things as his fault because he didn't anticipate it or see it sooner, etc Wayne-- First off for Wayne is probably the most obvious, his skills at impersonation and accents. In most situations he can blend in with any crowd, heck, he could probably convince someone that he's the lord ruler (if he has the right hat). It just seems to come instinctually to him the ability to be other people and act like them. Now this could also be because he hates being who he really is -- a coward who killed a girl's father and regrets it. But that's too depressing so for the sake of argument I'm including it in the list. Something else I noticed with Wayne is that he seems to place a lot of emphasis and importance on physical objects such as his hats/costumes. He believes that with a person's hat he can essentially 'become' them when he needs to. Could this have something to do with the items' connection to their former owner in the spiritual realm? Or is it simply that they help him feel more in character... Maybe it's both and he just doesn't realize the former is happening. Wayne also seems to have an... interesting sense of morales and responsibility. What I mean is when he takes one item and replaces it with another he doesn't regard it as stealing, only as a trade that he views as fair regardless of the objects economic worth. Furthermore, when he does something wrong or gets in trouble he thinks stuff like "Oh no I wonder how much they're gonna fine wax for that" instead of him thinking about the consequences to himself. Miles-- Out of the three, we know the least about Mikes but we do have a small amount of information to draw from. For instance it is mentioned that miles basically doesn't feel pain anymore and we don't know if that could be part of the "effect" of being a twinborn or just because his compounded healing abilities made him so used to not ever being actually hurt that he doesn't notice pain anymore. We also saw at the end of AoL that Miles seems to not believe he's actually going to die, and faces down the bullets with a sort of grim determination and dedication. Could this be from his devotion to the set? Or is something else going on here... Well this is the information I've gathered so far, and if you have anything I missed feel free to add and I would love to here everybody's theories on what this extra "effect" could be.
  17. A doodle that I did in school. Turned out pretty good, if I do say so myself.
  18. This song is a tribute to the unquenchable Wayne. (Song intro) I’m gonna fight ‘em off A seven octant army couldn’t hold me back They’re gonna drag it on Taking their time right behind my back And I’m drinkin’ with myself at night because I can’t forget Back and forth through my bubble with a whiskey flask And the message coming from Wax says leave it alone! (Song Break) Don't want to hear about it Every single one’s got a story to tell Everyone knows about it From the Shard of Ruin to the Rusts of Hell And if I catch ya coming back my way I’m gonna tell it to you And that ain’t what you want to hear But that’s what I’ll do And the feelin’ coming from my bones says find a home! (Song Break) I’m goin’ to Callingfale Far from this opera for evermore I’m gonna work the job Make the sweat drip out of every pore And I’m bleeding, and I’m bleeding, And I’m bleeding right before Ranette. And the words are gonna bleed from me And I will sing no more And the bullets coming from my blood tell me go back home! (Song End)
  19. A friend and I were discussing Wayne and Steris' relationship, and we decided that there's probably a good setting for a series of short stories/vignettes about them as they increasingly become friends (of a sort). Steris almost certainly has a list of possible things Wayne might do to irritate her, as well as ways of dealing with them. Wayne knows there's a list because it's Steris. So the game would be: "Can Wayne do something to Steris that isn't on her list." Wayne wouldn't look at the list because "it would right take the fun out of it," and Steris would use the game as an opportunity to contain Wayne's chaos. I suspect Wayne has spent some time in the Assembly, pretending to be a member, and having fun tying people up in silly votes and time-consuming procedural motions. I was enjoying the image of him attempting this on Steris, who would utterly crush him procedurally. Anybody else have ideas for ways Wayne could mess with Steris? I assume she has well-fleshed out ideas for what to do if Wayne infiltrates any of her social gatherings or hobbies, but there's room for Wayne to work, even there.
  20. "Thanks, Wayne," Marasi said as the short man opened the hotel room door to let himself out. "Oh, think nothin' of it, Marasi. If I had a problem like that, an' this was the only way I could get any sleep, I'd sure want a mate who could help out, so why not do the same for you?" He smiled and closed the door, then turned to head back to his own room. And barely avoided crashing into MeLaan, who had been standing outside waiting there for a while, by the looks of her. Wayne jumped, startled. "MeLaan! Errm... this isn't what it looks like," he proclaimed immediately. "Looks like you coming out of Marasi's room late in the evening," the statuesque kandra remarked idly, looking generally downwards at him. "Well yes, but--" "After helping her 'prepare' for bed?" Wayne stiffened. "Now it ain't like that!" "I don't mind. It's not like I'd get jealous over such things. I'm mostly just surprised. Never saw any signs that you two were that close." He scowled. "We ain't! This was a... a professional meeting, me helping her with a personal need--" he stopped. "That just makes it sound even worse, doesn't it?" The kandra just grinned cheekily. "It's kinda embarrassing, truth be told. She wouldn't want me tellin' anyone about her little problem, especially if it were to get back to Wax." MeLaan simply nodded, her curiosity thoroughly piqued by now. "It's... well... her allomancy." "Her allomancy?" Wayne nodded. "You know her and I have complimentary powers?" "You burn bendallloy to speed up time in a bubble, and she burns cadmium to slow it down." "Aye. Well, she didn't use any of her power on today's Mission." MeLaan nodded. "She tends to find fewer opportunities than you do." "And just to make it all worse, cadmium burns real slow. Well, wisdom of the Survivor himself says to always burn all the metal you got left before bed." "I've heard of that. Allomantic metals can be toxic." "Exactly. And cadmium, it's one of the worst of all. Really nasty, what it can do to a person." "So she needs to make extra sure to burn it at night," MeLaan said. "Where do you come in?" "Well, the problem with burning off cadmium at night is what it does to you. Most metals, you can just let 'em burn until they're gone, and not much happens if you don't do nothing with them, but cadmium..." That's when it dawned on MeLaan. "She wouldn't be able to sleep well because she'd run out of time." "Exactly." "Unless... if you burn your own power at the same time, close enough that you're both inside each other's bubbles, do the effects just cancel out?" "Now you got it, " Wayne said. She smiled. "You're a good friend, Wayne, more decent and loyal than you give yourself credit for. It's one of the things I like about you. " Wayne actually flushed a little at that. "Thought'cha liked me fer me natural wit an' charm, an' me skill at disguises an' such," he mumbled. She grinned and slipped a hand into his, smiling playfully and giving his hand a fond little squeeze. "One of the reasons." Then she leaned down and whispered in his ear, "do you have any slow time left?"
  21. So, before I write this, I would like you to know that I have only read book one of the second Era, The Alloy of Law. So, this being said, some events that could occur are not feasible due to my lack of information. (Please don't nerd shame me.) I read somewhere that Brandon was going to write a Mistborn, and my mind was suddenly sent whirling in a series of thoughts about what a Modern Era for the Mistborn world might be. Now, this theory is barring any larger Cosmere related events, staying with Scandrial only. Now, as of the Alloy of Law, there are two main religions of which I know, namely being Pathism and the Church of the Survivor. While all people currently have knowledge of Vin and Elend as the Final Emperor and the Ascendant Warrior, and Spook as the Lord Mistborn, I believe that such facts will fade away with time. By the time that Scandrial reaches modernization, the religions will become almost Abrahamic. Each religion will have common aspects, such as the belief that Vin, Kelsier, Elend and Spook were religious figures, either negative or positive. The Path The modern incarnation of the Path, which we be a modern analogue of Christianity, stating that Harmony is the God above who watches over the people with a specific design for each of them. In order to show the one true "path", the Lord Mistborn emerged as the chosen of Harmony, their analogue to Jesus. Now, as a Jesus-like figure, the Lord Mistborn is credited with being a legendary character who committed intense acts of heroism and helped save Scandrial from the chaotic aftermath of the rule of the Final Emperor, who shall be remembered as one who rejected the Path and Harmony, having restricted the people's ability to follow the Path. Elend and Vin will be turned into chaotic evildoers who sought to bring forth evil machinations and enslave the people. They, alongside those who follow the Church of the Survivor, will be said to have disobeyed the rulings of Harmony, bringing discontent into the lives of those who sought to follow the Path. The Church of the Survivor The Church of the Survivor will have evolved into something similar to Judaism, with the belief that there are some who were chosen by the Survivor, and are descendants of those who are born to survive. However, it is not limited to those who possess the blood of the "chosen". People who wish to join the Church must prove themselves worthy of being a part of the establishment, either by paying a great amount of money, as proof of their "survival capabilities in the modern world", or being a "chosen by the mists"(an allomancer).The Church of the Survivor is based around religious offerings to Kelsier, leaving animals and money within the mist, as "proof of survival". The leaders of the Church will have become corrupt, dealing among themselves the funds for joining the Church, and taking bribes to bless things in the name of the Survivor. Although the Church will have become corrupt, it remains one of the largest religions on Scandrial, due to the high number who had been members of the Church for many generations.To the Church, Harmony is considered a demonic being who represents constrictions against survival, who attempts to sway those from the way of survival and onto the Path of doom. The Order of the Sliver The above name I chose due to not knowing the real name of those who follow the Sliver(Lord Ruler). By the time when the Third Age series begins, the Order of the Sliver has evolved along the lines of Islam, being a largely new and powerful religion, having been suppressed for centuries. Those who believe in the Sliver all agree that their god, the Sliver, had stayed among them for many generations, ruling men and Preserving order. After many generations, however, the Sliver was banished from Scandrial by the Survivor, a false god who sought to usurp the Sliver's place as god of the people. A demonic man who used the powers granted by Sliver to turn the people against him, the Survivor banished the Sliver using evil and Ruinous powers. However, the Sliver raised up two prophets to restore Preservation and end the Survivor. After killing the Survivor, the Final Emperor and the Ascendant Warrior raised the Sliver's empire to new heights, and after dying to defend the Empire, the Lord Mistborn, a second incarnation of the Survivor, used his powers to sway the Empire to his control, and slowly dismantled the Empire. Those who are among the Order of the Sliver do not possess any serious form of liturgy and format for rituals, with each person being called to restore the Empire in the name of the Sliver.
  22. So I'm going to be the first one to punch a hole in my theory, before I even say what that theory is. According to the timeline, the events of the first five Stormlight books happen slightly before Alloy of Law. However, I am seeing too many similarities to simply discount this. Here's what I am thinking: Similarly to Demoux, could Wayne not be a Worldhopper? I was re-reading WoK, and many of the things Yalb says seem just like something Wayne would say: And while inside the bookstore, Shallan thinks to herself: I think it would also not be unreasonable to assume that Yalb is still alive after Shallan sunk the boat in WoR, because we never directly saw him die, and she later sketched a drawing of him and another figure on a beach, which is something she hadn't seen before. I feel like this would not have been in the book if it were unimportant and Yalb would never make another appearance. Of course, Yalb has Thaylen eyebrows and a Thaylen accent, but we all know that Wayne is a master of disguising both his looks and his voice. Now, the holes. As I said in the beginning of this post, the timeline says that the first five SA books come before the Alloy of Law. This does seem to indicate that Wayne couldn't have been on Roshar, or that if he had been it would have been mentioned during the second-era Mistborn books. However, we don't have a lot of concrete information on exactly what life was like for Wax/Wayne before AoL (some backstory, some anecdotes, but not nearly as detailed as the current time in the second-era Mistborn books), so maybe when he wasn't lawkeeping with Wax, he was off Worldhopping? As for it not being mentioned, it is possible (though admittedly unlikely) that he simply never mentioned it to Wax, and never thought about it during his viewpoints in the books because it wasn't relevant at the time. I admit, the timeline makes this flimsy at best. However, the similarities between Yalb and Wayne were way too striking not to say something about it. What do you guys think?
  23. Has the effect worn off? Do you feel that Wayne currently adds nothing legitimate to any book, and is, in fact getting in everyone's way? Do you feel that maybe Wayne is just living up to his name, just waning from the goodness he was in Alloy of Law to a mere repetitive, one-dimensional character? If not, please don't down-vote me. This is America, I hide beneath the First Amendment, and an army of flame shields. Also, um, kindly stay off the thread so only like-minded people can post? Please? If you do agree with me, join the Wayne Hater thread, and espouse your favorite reasons why you think Wayne should've lost all his goldminds, and be far and teathered off a cliff. Remember, this is the Bands of Mourning thread, so all's fair to spoil. My personal favorite: Wayne, you horrible excuse for a human being. You crashed the wedding of a man who saved your life more times than you can count on your fingers (including regrown ones) with a water tower. There's no excuse for that. Incidentally, petty thievery is a crime. Thievery against your bet friend is also a crime. Just saying. If you are going to say you like Wayne, and rain on my parade (like Wayne himself might), then please for my sanity post a legitimate reason. "I like Wayne." and "He's funny. Ooh, shiny." does not qualify.
  24. I noticed there wasn't a thread on Mistborn Era 2 Meyers Briggs types so I figured I start one. These are my guesses Waxillium Ladrian- INFP Wayne- ENFP or ESFP Steris Harms- ISTJ Marasi Colms- I'm not really sure for her. She is rather intellectual but fascinated by morals of others. Marasi has been known to make rash decisions in times of danger. So INxP Alikk Neverfar- I don't think we've seen enough of him to type him thoroughly but I feel like he's an xNFJ. Any Ideas?