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  1. Here's a video of a little game I made based on Starsight. It's kind of like Asteroids, and it's not meant to be very textually accurate, just reminiscent of Starsight elements. (The ship, of course, is M-Bot.) Starsight.mp4
  2. Here is a new and improved version of a game I recently posted, now with a light-lance included! Here's a video of the gameplay. Not very high quality video, but it works. starsight2.mp4
  3. Are there any drawings in Starsight like in Skyward? I listened to the audiobook. If there are drawings or diagrams in the physical copy, can someone send me pictures of them, please and thank you.
  4. It's past midnight Eastern, and my successful book purchase on Google Play says that Starsight is out! That means it's time for full book spoilers. So this is the requisite full book reaction thread!
  5. I finished Starsight the other day, and the revelation about Doomslug and its species was pretty much what I expected. But at one point, I think when they were just going to Starsight for the first time, something weird happened. Spensa said "By who," and Doomslug responded by saying "Whom!" I took that as an indication that Doomslug could actually speak the language, but it hasn't been followed up on. What does everyone else think? Is it a typo, or something I've missed? Am I making a big deal of nothing? Or is there something else about the slugs? Maybe you really do have to be sentient to be cytonic.
  6. I noticed there seems to be a distinct parallel between the characters of Morriumur and M-Bot; reproduction, or birth, seems to be an important theme for both of them. Morriumur is a dione "draft," or an individual who hasn't been born yet. They hope to earn their birth by proving themself as a warrior. Likewise, M-Bot longs to be a sentient living being which, among other things, is capable of reproduction. At one point in the story, Spensa helps him create a drone and M-Bot entertains the idea of giving his "child" a personality. Unfortunately, there is something in his code that forbids him from duplicating his code at will. But by the end of the story, both Morriumur and M-Bot achieve their goals of reproduction; the former having proved themself in battle and thus deemed worthy of birth, the latter having become a wanted fugitive on Starsight and therefore painstakingly copied his code line-by-line between forced shut-downs into the previously mentioned drone. One had a great ending. The other, not so great. I'm not sure about the significance of this parallel. Will this continue into the 3rd and 4th novels? Can we draw conclusions about the outcome of one character based on another? Another somewhat obvious parallel was between the humans, Spensa and Brade, who were both excellent examples of self-fulfilling prophecy. Brade, and her pessimistic acceptance of humans-are-evil. Simply put, if you always think you're a failure, you'll likely be a failure. As with Brade, she always believed she was evil, aggressive, and capable of violence - and that's exactly what she amounted to. On the other hand, Spensa was always optimistic and as a result, she managed to divert the delver thus saving two major civilizations and winning over much of her crew and Cuna to her cause. Although these two are like opposites, they're also very similar in this regard. Again, I'm not sure if it's safe to draw any conclusions from these observations. Perhaps it's just a cool literary tool. Have you noticed any parallels between characters in this story? I feel like Jorgen and his journey must have a parallel somewhere but I can't really figure it out. Vapor? Gul'zah? Hmmm, no probably not Gul'zah the burl...
  7. I'm a long-time reader of Sanderson's works but a first-time poster. I'm a family man and software developer in Tucson, Arizona. Over the years I have loved all his books, he is easily the best author of all time. My favorite is a tie between 'The Way of Kings' and 'Towers of Midnight.' I've never been very good at posting in forums. But I'll try to drop by from time to time (especially when I'm in the middle of a fantastic Sanderson book).
  8. Memes! you know what to do. I'll start us off!
  9. Some Burly Burls
  10. So I was thinking that for me, one of the coolest aspects about this new series by Brandon Sanderson is that it allows for endless possibilities for fan-content when it comes to alien species. Starsight describes the Superiority as filled with variety without number, and if a species as "aggressive" as the Burl are allowed to join, then just about any alien species could join as long as the species isn't openly hostile towards the Superiority. Obviously you can't make up your own "primary intelligence" species, because those spots are peopled by a limited number of races that Sanderson already has filled. I thought that maybe we can fill this thread with everyone's own ideas for "Fan-Species".
  11. I’m messing with the Diones for my alien species pages and thought I’d show you all the WIP! i know Morriumur’s face is supposed to have different features for each, but I only learned that after I drew this.
  12. skyward
  13. Alien page for the Varvax! To the bottom right are designs for Winzek and the Cleaning Lady, and some interaction shots of the Krell in their exo-suits. I heard some feedback that the exo-suits might not be completely accurate, so... my bad!
  14. The first Sanderson book I read was Skyward, and I came to find a natural liking for his protagonists as well as the mysterious race known as the Krell. In Starsight, we learn that the KRELL are actually another race, but that's a different matter. What bothers me is when I recently started reading Arcanum Unbounded and Sixth of the Dusk. According to The Coppermind, the krell in that story are different than those in Skyward and Starsight. However, knowing Sanderson's writing, he rarely does things just for fun. Do you think this could mean that he's trying to introduce Skyward and Starsight into the Cosmere? Just a little further piece of evidence: The Krell in Sixth of Dusk are beach creatures, and the KRELL in Starsight turn out to be crablike things in suits of armor.
  15. cytonics are a form of delver. Delvers are at first estimated to be the size of a small planet, then shown to be much smaller. My theory is that spensa, doomslug, alanik, and the other cytonics are some form of delver. Evidence: being a cytonic is an inherited power; cytonics have a strange connection to the delvers; and m-bot's 'inhuman' comment morrimor is baby and i will protect them with my life i knew cuna was just trying to make spensa more comfortable and utterly failing at it alanik is pretty encompasses half a page morrimor
  16. The journey through the delvers maze made, at many times, Spensa think of caverns back at detritus. Many times, she felt that what she is seeing was a projection of a real cave back home. She also sees the same alien language in the delvers maze which is found in caves back at detritus. Also many of the caves are like a maze back at detritus, people have been known to loose their way in them. Many caves have not even been discovered or fully explored. so, what if the homeworld of Spensa, detritus is actually built upon a Delver corpse. Humans were trying to control delvers, already the delver maze is possibly a delver corpse that belonged to humans, so is it possible that humans killed delvers? Or they simply happened upon their corpses. A world had naturally formed on top of such a corpse? Detritus? The word Detritus also means “organic matter formed from decomposition of organisms” in this case, the planet has been created from the decomposition of a delvers corpse. We have no proof that humans ever actually lived on the surface of the planet or many humans lived inside the caverns. It is possible that they created the platforms around the planet and lived on the platforms exclusively as much as was possible. But the planet was very important to them because it gave them access to Taynix ie slugs and nowhere portals to create acclivity rings. The planet was a big manufactory for humanity’s war effort.
  17. So, I've been thinking about Sleepless breeding ever since I read this WoB: I didn't have any idea how they might make a new Sleepless, but then I read Starsight. Now. what do Sleepless have to do with Starsight? (Starsight spoilers): So my idea was that Sleepless might reproduce by meeting up, and combining for a period of time. this is all just conjecture, since we don't know much about Sleepless, but I think that the act of intermingling most or all of two Sleepless's hordelings causes an intermingling of their minds and Spiritwebs. They then breed new hordelings, who are only connected to this mingled spiritweb, then separate into three Sleepless, the two "parents", and the third, smaller new one.
  18. I just want to say that I think that out of all, Winzik is the biggest fraud! He prattles on and on about how his species has attained primary intelligence and are, therefore, not aggressive or destructive and therefore alone deserve the FTL technology. Well, clearly all his actions, from trying to eliminate the “human scrounge” permanently to creating a force of lesser species to the first test using live fire to summoning the delvers and planning to use them as a proverbial gun on every species heads to then using it to destroy humans to the military coup!! All these actions are very aggressive and the products of an extremely rash, destructive and dangerous mind! All the things that “primary intelligence levels” reached by your species should have made impossible for you to be! Therefore, winzik, you are a big fraud and the whole primary intelligence system of yours is fraudulent. Any views guys, please share.
  19. A friend recently pointed this out to me and I think it is very interesting: This excerpt shows that Spensa can hear the same hum that she hears from the stars aka the delvers. It indicates that delvers and AI are related indeed. Already there are theories of how humans might have created delvers as AI that then went very bad and humans own creation turned against them, while I like that but another possibility comes to mind, what if, it was the other way round. Delvers if you think about it act very computer programming like. They have a central cpu unit- the heart, where the main brain is, and they project all types of illusions and threats to protect themselves from outer threats, creating holograms as illusions and making humans feel fear is something that an advanced cytonic computer program can accomplish. They also have very little understanding of feelings and emotions! Very AI type. We also know that humans tried to use delvers as a weapon against others. What if, they did more than that. What if it is the other way round. What if, delvers always existed but humans used the knowledge they acquired from them to create AIs like m-bot? He is very advanced level AI and no other species has anything near that level. Some of the stealth technology may have come from figments but the actual CPU, the actual programming, what if they created by learning from delvers? Also, I am very curious to know what change will come in M-bot from entering in the nowhere? Is he going to grow there somehow? He already worked faster near the portal, what would happen to him inside the nowhere itself? What will come out?
  20. Hi all, Starsight is now out. We'll have a pretty simple spoiler policy this time. Please keep Starsight spoilers in this spoiler board. Avoid major spoilers in titles as best you can. I don't think it's necessary to do topic tags; I'm not sure that was very useful/effective for Oathbringer anyway.
  21. Okay, for reals, podcasts won't stay this long, but we had so many thoughts on Starsight. This is a bit more of a mixed reaction on this one, and so we have an extremely spirited--and not at all salty--discussion on Skyward's sequel. What did you think? Did you like it? Did you dislike it? Obviously, major spoilers in this episode! This week we have Eric (Chaos), Ian (WeiryWriter), Alyx (FeatherWriter), Shannon (Grey), and Ben (Overlord Jebus). If you like our content, support us on Patreon: Subscribe to Shardcast: Send your Who's That Cosmere Characters to [email protected]
  22. Hi all, this review will be a FULL SPOILER review of Starsight. There are full book spoilers here, so if you haven’t finished reading the book, you may want to turn back. Unless you don’t care about spoilers whatsoever, then by all means, continue on! This review is actually two reviews. The first is by Greywatch, who liked the book, and the second is by Overlord Jebus, who didn’t. Please enjoy and let us know what you think in the comments! Grey’s Review I thought for a long time what I could title this review of Starsight. “First Impressions Are Not Trustworthy” perhaps, or “Understanding Other People is Difficult.” How about “Other People Are Delver Mazes, or: Navigating Our Way Through the Illusion That We Are Different.” But then I realized how pretentious it is to title a review, so let’s skip that entirely. One book can go anywhere; there are several different ways to interpret any book. But when you have at least two in a row, you can pick out the commonalities. When we look at the throughline between Skyward and Starsight, what we have is a series focused on a young woman whose core trait is her desire to connect with other people. One of the things that jumped out to me in Skyward was how relatively easily Spensa was able to let go of her (justified and legitimate) anger to try and see things from the perspective of other people. As someone who identifies with Spensa’s anger and knows how easily it is to stoke the fire of rage when you know that you’re right, how easily anger consumes everything, how nothing else matters except defeating the object of your righteous anger - her ability to put her anger down for the sake of starting trying to have a relationship with other people is nothing short of inspiring. Spensa was my hero at the end of Skyward, and it’s to my joy that she continued to grow along this path in Starsight. This book takes a tonal shift from Skyward, in that it’s no longer a story about a class of young people training to become fighter pilots. Instead, the book makes it clear very soon that the people of Detritus are now looking beyond their dreary prison planet to the universe beyond. The ancient creatures Spensa knows as the eyes are found out to be called delvers, and the people on Detritus learned it was a delver that destroyed the world before. They need to find out more. Due to her cytonic abilities and singular connection with M-Bot, who so happens to be specially developed for stealth infiltration missions and traversing long distances in space, Spensa is not the ideal candidate to spy on the alien society beyond, but she is the only one who can. Due to the sudden appearance of a sympathetic alien, Alanik of the UrDail, Spensa is given the tools to do this sooner than later. Spensa is suddenly pushed into the role of spy and infiltrator, landing on Starsight, a space station where people from the dominant alien society live, called the Superiority. The tension sets in as we watch Spensa’s fumbling attempts to blend in and understand the internal politics of the Superiority, always feeling on the cusp of giving herself away. Here is where Spensa’s character arc really shines. We know from Skyward that Spensa is not a particularly politic young woman, not given to speaking softly, nor deftly dissecting nuances to see through to the truth. She knows that she is not suited for the work of being a spy, nor has she been trained for it. In addition to this, humanity’s place in the universe is extremely precarious. They’re being kept on Detritus because the other aliens find them too violent and aggressive to be able to be a part of their society. At the end of Skyward, when I was thinking about humanity reaching out to the rest of the universe to try and persuade the aliens that they weren’t all violent monsters, I wouldn’t have picked Spensa for the job. Spensa, full of anger and a fighting spirit? A young angry woman who idolizes and seeks to emulate ancient Earth warriors can’t be the best example of a human to the Superiority. Also a big change from Skyward is the absence of the people from Detritus, even Skyward Flight. When a huge new set of alien characters are introduced as part of the main cast instead of anyone from the cast of the original book, one wonders what the purpose will be. I had the sense going into Starsight that it was going to involve Spensa going to the aliens’ society and learning about them, so obviously the people she’s learning about must be aliens. But the story took a different direction with the people Spensa meets in this book than I was expecting, and the aliens are part of the theme of Spensa’s story in a way I thought was really interesting and meaningful. Almost all of them have some kind of echo or mirror of Spensa’s main quest. Where earnest and direct Spensa is not totally conscious of her real struggle, or able to completely articulate the big questions to herself, the people around her give us the words to understand what’s going on in this book. The essential questions are not something only Spensa is trying to figure out, but so is M-Bot, the dione Morriumur, the traumatized human Brade, and even the delver who appears at the end. It’s a terrible thing to have your personhood denied to you, to be put in the position that you need to prove to others that you deserve to live. This is a fraught issue that Starsight hammers in relentlessly; first with Spensa’s quest to find a way to preserve the humans in Detritus, then developing with every relationship she makes on Starsight. The further this book went on, the more I was convinced that no one other than Spensa could have fully carried the questions that this book raised. The reason this worked so perfectly for me is Spensa’s character arc in Skyward. She has an outward projection of violence and aggression, but Spensa truly and deeply wants to be friends with other people. She’s hurt when other people don’t like her, and she had become used to the expectation that everyone was going to dislike her. She is ultimately willing to let go of things that she thought were so precious to her for the goal of saving other people. She tries to reach out to Morningtide, even after her mistaken first impression that Morningtide was being rude to her. She tries to reach out to Hurl, even when Hurl is cruel to her. She tries to reach out to Nedd, even when he hates her for saving his life instead of saving his brothers. She tries to make things right with Jorgen even when they haven’t been good to each other; they’re perhaps the most perfect example in Skyward of two people who have legitimate reasons to dislike each other but still giving the other person a chance. Spensa has every reason to stop trying, but despite what other people think of her or how they treat her, she gives it attempt after attempt. In hindsight, I feel I should have realized sooner how perfect this makes Spensa for a mission where she’s going to come into contact with aliens who are predisposed to think badly of humans just for being humans. Spensa’s fierce nature isn’t a weakness; we instead get the joy of watching her genuinely caring about the aliens she meets and trying to understand them through her initial misunderstandings. (With a couple of exceptions--poor Mrs. Chamwit! Living on the bottom rung of an authoritarian society like Detritus didn’t really give Spensa the tools to comprehend that people might really have good intentions.) Spensa’s best trait is her quick willingness to admit that she was wrong about someone. She isn’t stubborn or proud about her mistakes in misunderstanding people--the possibility of connecting with them is so much more important to her. The best moment in Starsight that highlights this is Spensa’s reevaluation of Cuna and their smile; when Spensa realizes that Cuna is the only one who’s trying to do her this kindness, even though Cuna is doing it badly, it overcomes Spensa’s automatic fear she has ingrained in her that everyone has bad intentions. This is something she’s struggled with since the beginning of the first book, and it’s understandable that her fear that everyone dislikes her hasn’t disappeared. But Spensa’s consistency in saying “maybe I was wrong about this person” and giving it another shot is truly heroic. This is a powerful theme that is threaded through every plot point in the book, all the way through to the final confrontation with the delver, one of the ancient eldritch creatures who simply destroy civilizations who use too much cytonics or wireless communications. A younger, less mature Spensa might have been unable to look past her own fear and lack of understanding. But the Spensa at the end of Starsight has had a lot to consider. She’s seen M-Bot’s and Morriumur’s desire to become fully realized people, but are being denied; others’ desire to become full members of the Superiority with the rights to participate in society, but are being denied; Brade who has already been denied this right to personhood in such a traumatizing way that she’s not even trying anymore. What Spensa and much of our cast has been chewing on in this story is whether they deserve to exist. When Spensa enters the white room of the delver, this question is put to the final test. When I first read this scene, I didn’t understand the point of it. The delvers and the Superiority felt like separate obstacles to the humans’ goals, just happening to share space in the narrative. One is some massive unknowable horrid creature that destroys everything it sees, completely unstoppable. The other side seems mundane, political drama that seems petty in comparison. But the delver does something interesting. The delver answers the question. Circumstances align so that Spensa is able to enter the heart of the delver that expresses itself as a white room, with so many events working in favour for this to happen that you wonder if anyone has ever actually managed to touch the mind of a delver before. The mind of the delver is truly alien, not understanding Spensa whatsoever. In response to this hostile being, Spensa is the one who has to reach out. She does her best work in looking past her first impressions to try and understand the perspective of the being she’s now communing with. She’s had a lot of practice at this now! When she communicates with the delver in the only way she can, the delver understands. It not only understands, it immediately and clearly communicates back to agree with her that they are all people, and people deserve to live. This isn’t the response I was initially expecting from a delver, given the information we had up until this point, but when looking at Starsight as a whole, there is no more solid confirmation on what the book is trying to say. Spensa doesn’t get to win with everyone, of course, otherwise there would be no story. Winzik refuses to see the personhood of his enemies, or if he does, he doesn’t care. But for Spensa’s attempts, she has a lot of successes. Her persistent determination to keep trying to make connections with other people speaks to her unspoken belief that everyone is worthy of being treated like a full and complete person. It seems a clear followthrough from how Spensa was treated growing up on Detritus to how she seems so determined not to do the same to others, despite her natural predisposition to be suspicious. Starsight explored a lot of things I didn’t think this series would cover, but it was presented so well. This is an incredibly strong novel that puts its hero’s ethics on the stage of the universe, and Spensa is well worth showing off. She’s been a wonderful character to explore so far, and if this is what we’ve gotten from her across two books, I’m so excited to see what’s next for her. That Spensa is so earnest and forthright turned out to be a great strength. She’s not the person anyone would have chosen to represent humanity, but it’s her ability and willingness to keep trying to connect with other people that saved both humans and the Superiority. Spensa risked her life to honestly reach out to Cuna and Brade and Hesho and Vapor and Morrimumur and the delver, even when she failed or didn’t have the right words. She didn’t have a great argument. She just let herself be vulnerable to them and simply asked for mercy, if not trust or friendship. To speak personally: our world today is full of things that stoke our justified and legitimate anger. I identify with the feeling of rage and fear, surrounded by forces and people who I don’t understand and who don’t understand me. If the question that we’re being asked is whether anyone could be in this scenario and be able to try and reach out, then Starsight’s answer is yes. If the fate of all humanity depended on the ability of someone who has every reason to be angry, and to be distrustful, and to expect a hateful response but to keep trying anyway, I don’t know that I’d be capable of it. But Spensa is. Overlord Jebus’ Review So I wrote my original Skyward review as a non-spoilery because I really liked that book and I wanted to convince people to read it without ruining the book. I cannot say the same for Starsight. Skyward was an easy 8/10 for me. The plot was tight, extremely well paced, full of great characters and, as I said in my review for that book, had one of the best character arcs Brandon has put to page. Unfortunately, Starsight has none of these things. I give this book a 6 out of 10 if I’m being generous. I’m going to start with the positives because there are some elements I liked about this book. The book is competently written, as is to be expected from a man who writes like he’s running out of time. I found Vapor to be an extremely interesting character due to the general idea of the figment race and the character herself being rather mysterious in nature. Out of the two antagonists in this book, I was far more compelled by the delvers over Winzik. The mystery of the delvers, what we learn about them and how they work are great. I can pinpoint the exact moment I started to enjoy the book as being the point the delver maze was introduced. The delvers are the only thing that kept me going as Brandon very clearly loves his cosmic horror and knows how to write it well. The sequences with them watching Spensa were great, the training in the delver maze made me really dread the inevitable encounter with them and just their general concept (Planet sized living mazes with crazy psychic powers that throw burning rocks at you and teleport you out of existence) was great. However, something that was a serious problem for me was that we didn’t start to learn anything about them until half way through the book. The first half was almost entirely setup for getting Spensa to Starsight for the rest of the book to happen, with long expository sequences that mostly involve Spensa standing around whilst Cuna, M-Bot or Winzik explained things to her. The first action sequence, the test to get into the Superiority flight school, was completely devoid of tension for me due to no characters we knew being at risk and was not under any impression that Spensa wouldn’t get through the test. One thing I loved about the first book were the characters and I was excited to spend more time with them, the first four chapters that were released before the book came out got me even more excited for this. However, almost immediately Spensa leaves Detritus and all those characters behind. The idea behind this was for Spensa to meet a new cast of characters, which she does, but by the time they are introduced and each had their allotted Talk With Spensa for us to get to know them better, the book is wrapping up. When Hesho died, I felt nothing. This also adds onto a realisation I had during this book, I believe my enjoyment of Spensa’s character in Skyward was far more based on her interactions with Skyward Flight than I had realised. I did not find her or M-Bot as interesting in this book, though there are some really good moments in the second half of Spensa considering her place in the universe. The other main antagonist for the book is Winzik and arguably the Superiority in general. I did not find Winzik nor the exploration of the Superiority to be very interesting, they felt like a very generic “Conglomerate of alien species with a pinch of authoritarianism” that wouldn’t look out of place in the backdrop of a Doctor Who episode. I will admit it may have been that Defending Elysium ruined any mystery behind their ethics that was supposed to be felt during these parts of the book but, to me, scenes where we learned things about the Superiority were just scenes where I was waiting around for more delver stuff. But not even the delvers could redeem this book for me. This book built them up to be a huge galactic threat, an unknowable, unstoppable lovecraftian horror that was more natural disaster than living being. In the end, Spensa defeated the delver threat just by asking it nicely. My problem was not that the delvers didn’t know the beings they were killing were alive, one of the key tenets of lovecraftian horror is that our lives can be snuffed out by an unthinking horror that does not even realise we exist. My problem was with just how easily the delver was convinced. Humans fought them for hundreds of years, we know Spensa isn’t the first to enter a maze, isn’t the first to find the core and isn’t even the first to find the white room. Humans apparently had many cytonics, were none of those people that made this trip a cytonic? Did no one else think to simply ask the delver to stop? I really did not like this ending and I felt the delvers were going to be a much larger threat. If Spensa has only defeated this one delver and the rest are still hostile to life, I would be more okay with that. However, the book does not make it clear whether the delver problem is solved for good or just this one delver. Starsight was generally a mixed bag, with a turning point around the middle where I’d say it gets better. The Superiority never clicked with me as all that interesting, the character interactions felt formulaic (but were, at least, still good) and the most interesting element to me, the delvers, seems to have been easily defeated. Because of this, I am seriously considering not continuing the series and I cannot recommend Starsight unless you really, really, like Spensa.
  23. Hesho, hidden King of the Kitsen,
  24. Ok, I was very wrong about Brade's motivation for working with the Krell, my current suspicion is that she will switch sides at the last minute and sacrifice herself in book 4. Wrong about the Kitsen Shadow Walkers being the hyperdrive as well. I had a thought today that Skyward is a prologue that got out of Sanderson's control, that the intention had only been to write a trilogy but there where too many events from Spensa's training that he wanted to address in later books that made it necessary to expand it out to a full novel. I'm curious as to how the hyperdrives would transport themselves away when a Superiority ship was stolen? Especially considering that based on the procedures on the Weights and Measures seemed to be that they carry multiple slugs in case of engine failure. There are questions about Taynix physiology as well. The first being what is the natural life cycle of a taynix? My wild speculation is that the colony Jorgen found aren't the descendants of the Taynix that the Defiant brought with them but are, at least partially, the original slugs the humans had with them. Further to this is that Doomslug was the hyperdrive for M-Bot, which is why Spensa says that she usually liked to be near him. That speculation continues and gets even wilder here. I think that the taynix may be immature delvers. I may just be thinking of caterpillars turning into butterflies because of the dione method of reproducing, but I think it could be possible that the taynix are a type of larval from of the delvers. This would explain why both species have cytonic abilities and also why every time they made a hyper jump Spensa could sense the eyes focusing on the source of the scream, they were looking at their young as it was being tortured. Yep, I think that the Superiority's method of using the slugs was torturing them in some way and I also think that it will turn out that Gran-Gran knows of ways to utilise them without hurting them. If my earlier theory about the slugs lifespan is correct then Doomslug probably wouldn't hang about M-Bot still if it was a painful memory for her. I'm a little surprised that nothing came of the sensors that had been in Spensa's helmet in Skyward. I was sure that the DDF would have been using them to identify cytonics in their ranks. Waiting for someone to decide to tell Cobb that they had seen the eyes of the delvers seems to be an inefficient way to find the people that they know have an invaluable ability. The DDF did get a lot more skilled between books, it seems. Sure they had Spensa and M-Bot, but while she was off at Starsight you never got the impression in any of the interludes that the DDF had started struggling without her. You don't really get a chance to see much of Skyward flight when she gets back so they may have taken some casualties, but Cobb never seemed to have as many battles with mass casualties associated to them like Ironsides did. Sure he's arguably better in the job than she was, but it's not like he changed their tactics too much. One last thing about Doomslug, when Spensa first gets to Starsight and she is being hailed, she asks "By who?" Doomslug immediately chimes in with "By whom!" I'm pretty sure this is the only time that Doomslug doesn't just imitate the noise she hears. But not only does she say something different, she corrects Spensa's grammar. At least I presume she does, I've always been pretty vague about when to use whom instead of who. The point is is that she is saying something else, not just being a brightly coloured lyre bird. I think that, because of my earlier theory that she was the original hyperdrive for M-Bot, she was actually repeating something that had been said by Commander Spears. Well, that's it for me, for now. Feel free to tell me why my theories are wrong. Or, even better, why they are right and a different piece (or any piece in some cases) of evidence to support it.