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  1. I bet this has been brought up before, but I'm clearly new so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Starting my first reread of the full series on my 1-year anniversary of reading WOK (note: because of poor memory some of this might be wrong), and only a couple chapters in I've noticed that Shallan used to be much more religious. However, with the whole business of Dalinar, "Honor is dead," the Stormfather, etc, Vorinism took a big hit. Do we ever see Shallan reflect on this? Does she even consider herself religious anymore, or has it been overshadowed by her identity crises? Basically, I feel like maybe that's an aspect of her character that has been written out/ignored in favor of more plot-relevant things. I would like to see more of the impact that the changing world has had on religious people in Roshar in general... Though I like the large-scale plots of the later two books, it feels like we're missing out on details that made Roshar feel more real. (If this has been mentioned, then disregard this post lol)
  2. In Brandons newsletter he released the start of skyward 3. In the start spansa, the main character, has just gone into an alternate dimension. It says... That wasn’t much, though. I fished in the pockets of the jacket, hoping maybe I’d shoved a knife or something into one of them without remembering it... Instead, I came out with a handful of glowing sand. Glowing. Sand. Silver, like it was made of ground up starfighter hull, and glistening. It was such an incongruous sight I just sat there, staring at it as some dribbled between my fingers. Scud. I slowly returned it to my pocket. The other pockets were empty, but that one—my right hand pocket—held a ton of the stuff. Enough that my hand sank all the way in when I reached inside. As I felt at it, I noticed something else. A lump at the bottom of my pocket? I pulled it out, dropping more of the sand to the ground. It was my father’s flight pin. The one I’d kept for years after his death, hidden away. The one I’d tried to use to get into flight school. It...hadn’t been on me when I’d jumped into the portal. Where had it come from? Why as it suddenly in my pocket, surrounded by silver sand? Is this the white sand that we find in the rest of the cosmea? I think so. Potential crossovers? I think so.
  3. I'm aware that there are things going around about why Kaladin remained awake, as well as why his powers kinda worked. Venli asked at one point about the 9 kinds of Fused versus the 10 orders of Radiant, and which one was missing. The Fused she asked claimed Adhesion wasn't an actual Surge. This happens to be the only ability that Kaladin was able to use. Perhaps, as the most senior Wind runner, he had the closest relationship with the Surges, thus the one remaining was more powerful. It's also worth noting that the Windrunners were the only ones that showed signs of maybe kinda waking up during that time. I think this Surge was the reason.
  4. Kaladin has a lot of little indications around him that he isn’t quite a normal windrunner but these have yet to be explained. If anyone for example 1. deflecting the high storm- though this could be an instinctive use of adhesion 2. The way the wind seems to grant him supernatural fighting prowess which is in my mind described almost like atium. The wind blowing around him could be adhesion but I don’t see why that would grant him enhanced senses, speed and coordination especially to the level that it does, on top of the fact that no other windrunner shows this happening nobody else has this kind of wind imagery. 3. Child of tanavast- we know that kaladin being the only person called child of tanavast is significant but we don’t know why yet, it’s possible this imparts him with these other abilities. 4. the way kaladin kills the pursuer is a very very odd instance, it’s possible it’s the standard wind thing but that doesn’t normally do what happened here. Kaladin becomes enraged and gains super speed, a power which as far as we have seen only one other power set in the cosmere grants. (Feruchamy) that’s not even to mention the yellowish red tint to his eyes venli sees which indicates potentially some level of corruption from odium. if anyone would be able to see understand and explain what is up with all of this it is ishar, the most practiced bondsmith ever, capable seeing connections could surely be able to determine this and in fact this may be what helps convince ishar to help Dalinar, he sincere believes he is an aspect of the almighty but maybe something about kaladin and the fact that the son of tanavast thing may indicate he actually is one. so what could happen when they meet? one theory I do have that’s a bit crackpot is that this has soemthing to do with cultivation, cultivation being a god of change and nature seems to me like it very well could have some level of manipulation over stuff like the winds and maybe she granted this power, this could also explained the slightly corrupted eyes since red investiture is corrupted seemingly regardless of what other type is corrupting it.
  5. This is an article I wrote a couple of months back about foreshadowing in fantasy. It is one of my favorite topics to talk about, as evidenced by this, and how I immediately jumped to the chance of being on the Dusty Wheel's episode on foreshadowing. I'd love to discuss it with all of you, and hear your opinions on the topic. Copy_of_Foreshadowing.pdf
  6. This is inspired by Skippy's List, a list of things a member of the US Army apparently tried or was spontaneously told he was not allowed to do. I think the domain name for the original list may have expired, but google searches will find reprints or summaries. I think spoilers should comply with the general policy (which is spoiler tags/general no-no until 9 months post-release, if I remember correctly). I'd be interested in other people's contributions. 1) Not allowed to convince Nightblood that pineapples are evil. 2) The Windrunners are named so because of their flight abilities, and not because they like to fart and run away. 3) Not allowed to Awaken clothing while still being worn by the owner. 4) Unless it's Sadeas. 5) When a Radiant's spren is giving them encouragement during 'intimate moments', the correct response is to tell them to give them privacy, not join in the chanting. 6) Koloss are not to be referred to as 'Hulky Smurfs'. 7) Instant noodles are not worth diverting an entire planet's technological development for. 8) Shardbearers are not 'compensating for something'. 9) Neither was the architect of Urithiru. 10) I cannot copyright a colour and demand royalties from every Awakener who drains it. 11) Mistborn does not mean 'anyone who was born outside'. 12) Consulting a Feruchemist's coppermind to learn about the past is fine. Using it to try and figure out what I did while blackout drunk is not. 13) Adonalsium should be referred to by their full name, not 'Daddy Ady'. 14) I should not set all of Bavadin's avatars against each other. Even if I brought snacks for everyone else. 15) Gloryspren come from winning a hard fought battle, not finishing an entire banquet by myself. 16) The Sharts of Adonalsium do not exist. 17) Adolin Kholin is not a 'shartbearer'. 18) Must pretend that Raoden masquerading as 'Spirit' is not an obvious alias. 19) Drawing a smiley face in the sand does not mean every Aon now needs one. 20) Must not encourage Wayne.
  7. Kaladin has a lot of little indications around him that he isn’t quite a normal windrunner but these have yet to be explained. If anyone for example 1. deflecting the high storm- though this could be an instinctive use of adhesion 2. The way the wind seems to grant him supernatural fighting prowess which is in my mind described almost like atium. The wind blowing around him could be adhesion but I don’t see why that would grant him enhanced senses, speed and coordination especially to the level that it does, on top of the fact that no other windrunner shows this happening nobody else has this kind of wind imagery. 3. Child of tanavast- we know that kaladin being the only person called child of tanavast is significant but we don’t know why yet, it’s possible this imparts him with these other abilities. 4. the way kaladin kills the pursuer is a very very odd instance, it’s possible it’s the standard wind thing but that doesn’t normally do what happened here. Kaladin becomes enraged and gains super speed, a power which as far as we have seen only one other power set in the cosmere grants. (Feruchamy) that’s not even to mention the yellowish red tint to his eyes venli sees which indicates potentially some level of corruption from odium. if anyone would be able to see understand and explain what is up with all of this it is ishar, the most practiced bondsmith ever, capable seeing connections could surely be able to determine this and in fact this may be what helps convince ishar to help Dalinar, he sincere believes he is an aspect of the almighty but maybe something about kaladin and the fact that the son of tanavast thing may indicate he actually is one. so what could happen when they meet? one theory I do have that’s a bit crackpot is that this has soemthing to do with cultivation, cultivation being a god of change and nature seems to me like it very well could have some level of manipulation over stuff like the winds and maybe she granted this power, this could also explained the slightly corrupted eyes since red investiture is corrupted seemingly regardless of what other type is corrupting it. But I also think cultivation is the villain and ha sheen manipulating everyone so take that with a grain of salt. now my main theory on what kaladin may be, is a sliver of honor. This explains a lot in my mind at least, why odium had 0 connection to kaladin he could exploit except through moash, it also explains why he would be called son of tanavast and makes more sense then some weird far back descendant. On top of that it would explain why kaladin was able to resist the tower’s suppression. And while I know people are gonna say to the last point that’s it was because of his closeness to the fourth ideal but every time we hear someone say that it’s much less a definitive statement and more of a “um... I guess maybe it could be because... he is close to the fourth ideal?..” it’s never a definitive answer and this very much fits all the other weird inconsistencies.
  8. Hey there. I'm new to the forums so I have no Idea if this has come up before. I wanted to have a quick chat about why the Nale doesn't want to go grab Jezzrian's Honorblade off Sezth in Chapter 77 of RoW and the implications of it for the future of Stormlight. So while Nale is having his super friendly chat with Venli and Ulim he says, Quote: "There is a man here in the city tonight. I have been tracking him due to his unusual circumstances. He possesses an artifact that belonged to a friend of mine. I have sworn not to touch said artifact, for... reasons that are unimportant to you." Unquote So Nale clearly knows about Szeth and Jezzrian's blade and that made me think of what possible reason he (and i'm going to assume the other Heralds) could have for not taking the Honorblade. My immediate thought is that when Honor made the Honorblades he made all the Heralds swear to not take more than one so they couldn't gain what he percieved to be to much power. (I think the "chains" Honor had put on Bondsmiths and the Radiant Oaths themselves are other examples of him not wanting people to access to much power) So I started thinking about what would happen if someone was bonded to more than one Honorblade at a time. I believe it would certainly grant access to all the avaliable surges associate with the blades. But that's not what really intrigued me. I started thinking about what would happen if you had access to two overlapping blades. For example, lets say that someone became bonded to both the Edgedancer and the Truthwatcher Honorblades. This would give them access to the Progression surge from two different sources. I think that this would likely have a similar effect to how compounding works on Scadrial. For example, two Progression blades could use Regrowth to heal faster, with less Stormlight and probably for more serious and longer lingering wounds. Now I think this is especially relevant when it comes to the (forgive my phrasing) power level of Nale. We know that he is both a Skybreaker of the Fifth Ideal and that he is bonded to his Honorblade, giving him acess to the Surges of Gravitation and Division twice. I agrue that because of this Nale is probably the most powerful Surgebinder on Roshar, (maybe discounting insane Connection Bonsmith stuff). I assume he'd be almost impossible to kill as he would process Stormlight at such an efficeient rate as to essentially make him as close to a perfect container as the leaky human body can be. I think his compounded Gravitation makes him incredibly fast and almost certainly a better sky warrior than even the Heavenly Ones and I could easily see compounded Division as being a potential cause of the Shattered Plains, so you really don't want to be around that. Combine this with him being a Herald (and I would guess one of the upper half in terms of best fighters) and you have one incredibly scary problem to deal with. So. Here is my prediction for book 5. At some point in their journey to Shinovar, Szeth and Kaladin are going to have to go toe to toe with Nale and he is going to wreck him. We've already seen that Szeth is not even a slight threat and I can't imagine Kaladin will be much better. So I reckon that one of them is going to have to take Jezzrian's blade off Moash and use it to counpound their abilities. From a Surgebinding mechanics point of view, it would make more sense for Kaladin to have it, but from a story point of view I think Szeth getting it back and using it for good would be super awesome. But I can easily see a faceoff in the sky with Nale, Kaladin and Szeth, each wielding two blades and having an awesome show down. TLDR: Nale's Honorblade lets him coumpound his Surgebinding and I reckon that someone needs Jezzrian's blade to do the same and beat Nale.
  9. Assumption/(Premise-Treated-As-Axiom) 1: The 16 Shards are/were comprised of 8 sets of opposing pairs. Assumption/(Premise-Treated-As-Axiom) 2: The 16 Shards are/were comprised of 8 sets of counterpart pairs. Assumption/(Premise-Treated-As-Axiom) 3: Counterpart pairs and opposing pairs are (but might not necessarily have to be) the same pairs, as in the metaphorical two sides of a coin, or how light and darkness define one another, or how sound and silence define one another. Assumption/(Premise-Treated-As-Example-Of-Above) 1: Honor's counterpart is Odium. Assumption(Premise-Treated-As-Example-Of-Above) 2: Devotion's counterpart is Domination. Assumption(Premise-Treated-As-Example-Of-Above) 3: The counterpart of dear Preservation was that accursed Ruin. Assumption/(Premise-From-Above-Axiom-And-Examples) 1: Cultivation must have, or must have had, a counterpart. Assumption/(Premise-From-Above-Axiom-And-Examples) 2: By understanding one half of an opposing/counterpart shard pair, we learn about the other. Assumption/(Premise-From-Above-Axiom-And-Examples) 2: By understanding Cultivation, we can suppose what her counterpart is (or is like), and we know enough of Cultivation to guess. Idea/(Guess) 1: The counterpart of Cultivation is Captivation. The word, "Cultivation" has several meanings and senses, one of which (to cultivate a talent in yourself) is tied with ideals of hard work, endurance, and progression, all by your own choice. However, when one undergoes captivation (in the sense of being entranced by something compelling or enthralling, such as a charming story), one regresses to a passive state, becoming incapable of progression or choice, being subject to outside entities/forces rather than acting/resisting/enduring, often to the detriment of one's ability to get anything done. Another sense of the word, "Cultivation" (to cultivate plants, as in a flower garden or for agriculture) is tied with themes of guiding-but-not-entirely-controlling, nurturing (perhaps through pruning), and experiencing the growth of another. Captivation (in the archaic sense of captivity), is tied with themes of absolute control, confinement, restriction/retraction, and breaking another into that-which-cannot-resist-or-oppose-you. Note that, in this sense, Cultivation and Captivation both are (or can be) exploitative, using the other for greater goals. As counterparts, this makes sense. A third sense of, "Cultivation" (as in refinement or sophistication, especially in a societal context) is etymologically tied to the very roots of the term "Culture", just as "captivation" is etymologically tied to "capture". This makes sense, as cultures which practice slavery have tendencies to procure slaves by capturing those of other cultures, and the enslaving culture often considers itself to be superior, or more cultivated (progressed), than those they exploit. We see these tendencies on Scadrial and Roshar (if things can be ruined and preserved on Roshar, then there is no reason why there should be no cultivation or honor on Scadrial). Note that this sense of Captivation is the act of taking, or capturing, while the first sense is about keeping one bound, and the second sense is what happens to that-which-is-bound. Note that the Parshmen slaves of Roshar are examples of all three of these forms of Captivation, as is the use of Spren in gemstones. Idea/(guess) 2: Odium's planet before Roshar was also Captivation's planet. Devotion and Domination are an example of counterparts on the same planet. The sadly departed Preservation and the despised Ruin are an example of counterparts on the same planet. However, Honor and Cultivation originally shared a planet despite not being counterparts. Perhaps this can be resolved symmetrically by having their respective counterparts share a planet. Idea/(guess) 3: When Odium's worshipers, the humans, came to Roshar, they brought some aspects or practices of/from Captivation with them (See: the captivation of the original inhabitants of Roshar, the Parshmen and Spren).
  10. Ok so I believe the 5th windrunner ideal is something along the lines of “I will kill to protect” why do I think this, well the sky breakers progress toward different levels of the law snd personally I believe Shallan and all light weavers but especially her are progressing toward seeing themselves for how they are, and her final ideal will probably be “I am shallan” or some variation of that so what is the windrunner ideal progression is so far 2. I will protect those who cannot protect themselves 3. I will protect even those I hate These seem to pretty much encompass everyone you could protect. do that brings us to 4 This is an exception that makes you more effective at your job, it allows you to move on/ keep moving now additionally many of the main characters are almost the ideal(sorry not sorry) candidates for each order and so I think it’s probably a good idea to assume for speculation their arcs match up with the ideals and I think the biggest point in his arc kaladin has left is moash after rythm of war I don’t think moash is turning away from odium and based on the trend of the 4th ideal being a exception that makes you more effective at protecting, and kaladins biggest major plot point that has only been kinda resolved is that he wants to protect too many people, a big part of that is resolved now that he doesn’t have to constantly protect bridge four and many others but there are so many like the parshendi he still feels the need to protect, and this is paralyzing him This follows the trajectory of the oaths i think and I believe he will swear the 5th ideal before or after killing moash, why do I believe this, because kaladin has to kill someone he doesn’t hate for no reason other then to protect others and moash fits that description since kaladin still does not want to kill him but he is a threat to so many people and now may want vengeance.
  11. Was Gavilar planning to do what Taravangian did and take up Odium? 'I have discovered the entrance to the realm of gods and legends, and once I join them, my kingdom will never end. I will never end.' Sounds pretty ominous in light of what happened at the end of the book. He's in contact with Heralds and presumably knows that they are Heralds. He's working to bring Odium's forces back to Roshar, and he has a sphere of Light that is theorised to be able to kill Odium. Perhaps he didn't know that Odium was a literal cosmic force of hate, but he may well have wanted to take up a source of practically infinite power.
  12. I've been thinking for some time about the presentation of disability and chronic pain in Brandon's novels. I've been rereading a number of his books to refresh my memory on some of the details as well and I ended up with a lot of thoughts. I've written him a letter trying to provide some insight and I think it's a topic worth discussing here as well. Fair warning: it's kind of...long. But I think it needed to be to really unpack and explain what I wanted to talk about. Spoiler Warning: The letter includes direct spoilers for Mistborn, Stormlight, Elantris, Warbreaker and Reckoners. But other books are relevant to the topic as well. If you haven't read some of Brandon's books and are concerned about spoilers this is not a safe thread to read.
  13. So we know the names of the books are most probably going to end up as a palindrome. What I mean by this is: WoK WoR O RoW and what can be assumed is KoW, since Roshar is known for is palindromic names. Does anyone have a theory on what it could stand for, given the knowledge that the names of the books are books in the actual world of Roshar? We have the Way of Kings, which is written by Nohadon, Words of Radiance, which discusses the Knights Radiant, Oathbringer, written by Dalinar, and Rhythm of War, which is most probably a text written by or on the Parshendi. Have we any other thoughts on what the KoW stands for? I've had some ideas that could be "Knights of Windrunners" or "Knights of War" but we've already got a book with the word "War", so it's improbable. Sorry for this wall of text but it's something that's really intrigued me.
  14. Hey there everyone! We've had concerns be brought up about writing content from RoW in RPs. This is a fair thing to wonder about, as nine months is a bit long, especially for those of us writing Rosharans or Radiants. We have decided that our policy here is a bit flexible. If your thread is set on Roshar or themed heavily around Stormlight Archive elements, we ask that you tag the thread with RoW and add a significantly noticeable spoiler warning to the first post of the thread. You may add [ROW SPOILERS] to the title of your thread if you wish, but it is not required. Spoilers themselves are not permitted in the name of your topic, as anywhere else on the forums. If some of your members have not yet read RoW, then it would be courteous to spoiler tag any references to the events of the plot or to any new Radiant oaths (even if you think they're obvious). You should make certain it's clear to any newcomers that there are RoW spoilers within your thread(s). If you plan to only tangentially mention something from RoW, or only have it in a post or two, please spoiler tag it liberally, and mark it as being RoW spoilers. It is best not to involve things from RoW with the plot of your RP if the entire thread does not allow RoW content, so as not to leave others out - please only do this with character things or side mentions. Please report any posts you see that are not following these rules. If you have any questions, feel free to address them here.
  15. Hey there everyone! We've had concerns be brought up about content from RoW being used in games. This is a fair thing to wonder about, as nine months can be a bit long. We have decided that our policy here is to make a new thread for that game if you wish to play it with RoW content, and title it appropriately. For example, Who's That Cosmere Character [RoW]. Spoilers themselves are not permitted in the name of your topic, as anywhere else on the forums. These threads will be locked after the nine months is over. If it is not a game that lends itself well to splitting threads, or you only wish to go on a small tangent in a chatting thread, please tag anything and everything that you think could possibly be called a spoiler, no matter how vague, and be clear that the tags are for RoW and not being used in a joking or spoiler-chain manner. Please report any posts you see that are not following these rules. If you have any questions, feel free to address them here.
  16. So we know Honor and Cultivation have a light together called Towerlight. I think there are some cultural metaphors describing towers that fit well with earthly interpretations of Towers. For one, Towers as symbols are depicted as sturdy and reaching towards the heavens. Honor is literally god to most Rosharans so towers thematically fit with their interpretation of god. Similarly, large towers are seen as a symbol of cultural advancement. The greatest architectural marvels on Earth such as the pyramids, the Burj Khalifa, and even the leaning tower of Pisa are ways civilizations show growth and innovation. You'll have to excuse my rhetorical ability, I don't have much experience explaining my thoughts in written format, but I'm sure you see the parallels between how humans view towers, and the shards, Honor and Cultivation. So This brings me to Cultivation and Odium. I thought for hours and hours about some symbol... some metaphor... some idiom... anything to connect divine hatred and growth. As I pondered, I had a thought that chilled me to my bone. The more I thought about this particular cultural nexus, the more I felt goosebumps on my arms. Wouldn't it be fitting, as a foil to TowerLight, if the mixture of Cultivation and Odium was also named after another particular architectural innovation? I concluded a place that encompasses both Odium and Cultivation would be responsible for many of humanities fears, much of humanities hatred, and full of mental, physical, and intellectual growth. Thinking through all of these, I postulate to you: A light that is formed from the combination of Voidlight and Lifelight would be called MiddleSchoolLight. P.S, I don't know how to post on here, I just have an exam in an hour, so I wanted to do something to take my mind off it, please let me know if I broke some rule or something. I don't want to spoil anyone who hasn't read the book yet, so I hope this goes where spoilers are allowed. Please take it down if I put it in the wrong place.
  17. At the end of RoW, Moash appears to be physically blind, and it appears to be permanent. Without getting into the reasons for his blindness, the question remains, what is Moash's character arc from now on? Will he just go out with a whimper and no bang? I really hope not. He's too well developed a villain for him to go out like this. So here is my theory: At the end of the book we see El spike Lezian. This indicates that he is either competent in, or experimenting with Hemalurgy. We know from Khriss's notes that Hemalurgy has vast implications cosmere-wise. All that being said, my theory is that Moash will find his way to El at some point in book 5 and El will spike Moash, Inquisitor style, and this is how he will regain his ability to fight and be a villain with style once again. I imagine that with the spikes, he would be able to see investiture or he will be able to see into the cognitive realm in some way. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this!
  18. obviously not including insanely op characters like the lord ruler, vin burning mist, shards, heralds, etc... I was wondering this but I haven’t had time to read Elantris so I wanted to know why people who have read all of it think. personally I think it’s got to be between 5 characters with powers and 6 without. with powers Kaladin, vin, szeth, marsh and jasnah without powers kaladin, szeth, dalinar, adolin, Vasher, and denth with powers Kaladin and szeth I shouldn’t need to explain they are the most well rounded characters in terms of fighting prowess being both incredibly good fighters with their weapons and incredibly adept in the use of their powers. vin probably has the best control over her powers of anyone. With marsh almost as dangerous as her plus better with weapons. jasnah with her soul tasing is insane though I think she would be weaker the stronger the enemy she fights is because of the investiture. Without kaladin and dalinar are force of natures on the battlefield even without powers adolin is probably the beast duelists we see vasher trained adolin denth was a batter swords man then Vasher and szeth is assumedly quite good. am I missing anyone specifically from Elantris?
  19. Who has good interacted with the most, as in like meaningful character moment interaction like his stories to kaladin not like him showing up as adolin and shallans carriage driver just because. because I feel like it’s probably kaladin or shallan thinking about it which to me I plus something important in their future.
  20. The T bomb at the end came out of nowhere!! For all that we had predicted where T is going, this was not what I could have ever foreseen!! Cultivation!! What have you done!!? “ Now I can save everyone” !!!! I never thought that such words will ever fill me with such dread ! But all things aside, what I really want to know is, do you think Taravangian suits the Intent? Vargo has shown a lot of things like amorality, mad genius vibe, he is very diabolical, megalomaniac, may be even a little narcissistic ( I think) and he is capable of doing the absolute worst to achieve what he deems right, he has (got) killed so many, caused civil war, backstabbed friends, etc etc. But still, I never felt hatred as an emotion from him. Even when he wanted to destroy Dalinar, it was more out of necessity, a (mistaken?) belief that Dalinar can not save them and I have always felt that he does not want Dalinar to save them, he wants to be the one who “saves” them, I have always believed that it is more about his ego than the survival of Roshar, But still I have never felt that hatred is a particularly strong emotion with him. So do you think he suits the Intent? Is he going to have trouble connecting with the Intent? Or have I missed to see something very obvious? Any ideas?
  21. I searched for discussion of this but couldn’t find a specific thread. Was Rock executed? In chapter 114, we find out that: “Skar and Drehy had relayed the news after returning to the Shattered Plains. It seemed Kaladin wouldn’t be seeing Rock again.” Maybe I’m being pessimistic, and Brandon wouldn’t kill Rock offscreen like that, but I dunno, sounds pretty definite. What is the consensus here?
  22. I get the impression that Mishram became the "great" spren of the third shard. She was able to function partially in the same way as her "parent" shard, much like how the Nightwatcher and Stormfather do the same to their parents shards. And since Odium had been on Roshar long enough to become a tone of Roshar, then his representing spren also became a large part of Roshar. Hence the major damage done by imprisoning her. This implies a few things If the Stormfather or Nightwatcher are also "hurt" or incapacitated, we can expect some damage across all of Roshar The bonding of Mishram in the conventional sense means there could be a 4th bondsmith. Either Radiant version, or Regal version Odiums connection to Roshar. Rayse had thought he was bound to Roshar because of Honors agreements. But with there now being a tone of Odium, and his own spren, it sounds like he is too invested in Roshar to leave if he wanted to. That's also might imply why he was able to influence Roshar even though he was bound on Braise. The rules of Honor didn't hold since Odium was now heavily invested / connected to Roshar. Which means Odium isn't going anywhere unless Roshar is destroyed, regardless of Honor. Honor can't break the rules of the cosmere. But now that now that the vessel is also from Roshar, I don't think that's an issue. T is fine being confined to Roshar and is fine being the permanent third shard of Roshar. This will cause a different conflict...T's method of protecting Roshar vs "Honors"(*cough*Dalinar*cough*) method of protecting Roshar from future assaults to harvesting it's easy to access investiture. So, basically Rayse had to die in order to accept Odium being permanently bound to Roshar for the future conflicts Thanks C
  23. Okay, I refuse to see spoilers, and the RoW thread and previews are included in that, so I am fairly grateful to how Chaos and the staff handle it, and yet, there are still a few slip-ups that happen that are really annoying. The one currently on my mind is when you hover over a person's name, you see what topic they're looking at, but you don't know what forum that's in, so when you see an interesting title, you may click on it and not realize that it's on the spoiler thread and you read the post until you bother to look up and see you're in the forbidden forum. Which is always a little sad when you have successfully avoided spoilers for over two months. So what similar problems have come up with avoiding spoilers, and what solutions are there to these problems? My solution to mine would be to highlight the topic name in another color to warn it's in a spoiler thread and you shouldn't click on it.
  24. In Chapter 22 of RoW (p. 325), Adolin observes Gallant leaving behind an afterimage. This passage is shortly after the delegation to the honorspren enters Shadesmar. This tickled my brain to the point where I decided to do a little digging into Szeth's afterimage, which is remarkably similar. To quote the wiki (I unfortunately do not have the relevant passages on hand), It's pretty clear to me that Szeth's afterimage is his Cognitive Shadow which is the result of his death and that "improper reattachment" by Nin/Nale/Nalan. I'm going to go out on a limb here and surmise that this detail about Gallant is 1. a characteristic of all Ryshadium, and 2. while not necessarily a Chekov's Gun by Brandon, something that is relevant to the nature of Roshar and/or Cognitive Shadows in general. I don't think it would be like Brandon to have a detail like this be purely flavor. I have a number of ideas concerning the ramifications on the lore that this has. I don't expect it will blow anything wide open, I just think it's interesting. Firstly, I'm fairly certain that these afterimages are connected, if not the same thing. What I think we're seeing here is Gallant's Cognitive Shadow (Ryshadium do have CSs as per this WoB). The implication here is that any sufficiently sentient life-form has a CS (not much of a stretch). I would posit that we would see a similar afterimage in Shadesmar (the manifestation of the Cognitive Realm on Roshar) from bonded Aviar. However, since we do not have any mention of such afterimages from humans or even Radiants (who have a symbiotic spren bond as do Ryshadium) this comes with a few reservations. It could be that my first premise is false and that Gallant has suffered some trauma that has harmed his "soul" and/or spren bond in some manner. I'd like to encourage someone trying to get a WoB about if we would see the CS of a non-sentient life-form with a symbiotic sprend bond such as a chasmfiend or skyeel in Shadesmar or even to confirm/reject my first premise. Another detail of note is the differences between the afterimages of Szeth and Gallant. Adolin is not heavily Invested, at least not enough to see Szeth's CS. However, he can see Gallant's CS without issue. He has not become more invested, so the only conclusion I can see is that CSs are more visible in the Cognitive Realm. While I don't have any evidence to back this up (perhaps someone who has Secret History could scrounge for such details about Kelsier), intuitively this seems reasonable. I'm also curious if Lift could see Gallant's CS in the physical realm. What are your thoughts? Am I making too much out of a random detail? Is this just a one-off? Am I wasting my time on a minor detail? Let me know what you think and any crazy thories you come up with!