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  1. I'm not saying Kaladin's a more interesting character. I'm saying, just as people, Kaladin is better than Kelsier. 1. Selfless... or not? Kaladin is far more selfless than Kelsier. In Rhythm of War, he gives up the possibility of peace to save his friend. He is very willing to give up his own well-being for others. But it seems like everything Kelsier does is to be THE AWESOMEST and to be seen as THE AWESOMEST. Which is a very different motivation. 2. Intentionally Starting Followings Kelsier made a kandra imitate him to intentionally start a cult/religion. All Kaladin had to do was be his awesome self-- and boom! Shash brands painted on foreheads galore! He wasn't even trying to start a cult. Which isn't the same thing, I know. But Bridge Four sorta worship him a little, which he did not intend. So Kelsier worked to make people worship him, where as Kaladin just did his thing and oops, he (kind of) started a cult. 3. Grudges Well, in the first couple books, Kaladin hates lighteyes. All. Of. Them. Well, in all of Kelsier's books, he. Hates. Nobles. He will kill nobles just for existing. And even when Kaladin was at the worst of hating lighteyes, he didn't indiscriminately murder them. And he slowly learns to get over his grudge. I see that most nobles were actually evil in Mistborn, whereas not as much so in Stormlight. But still, Kelsier takes his hate to a disturbing level. And he basically refuses to see that any nobles could be good. Whereas by Words of Radiance, Kaladin is willing to see that lighteyes(Shallan, Dalinar) can be good people. Even when Kelsier saves Elend's life, he does it because of Vin, not because he thinks Elend is a worthwhile person. Whereas Kaladin uses what he thinks are his last breaths to try and protect a lighteyes(in WoR). Honorary Mention: 4. The Ghostbloods??? Okay, this one is less supported and less reasoned out. <---(is that a thing people say?) But I don't know, the Ghostbloods seem pretty shady. And... yeah. Kelsier... is...(beware, weird Cosmerian spoilers follow...) Thaidakar! Leader of the Ghostbloods! And if that's not fishy, I don't know what is. Disclaimer: I have not read Mistborn Era 2.(haha almost spelled Era as Ear) But yeah! Feel free to argue discuss to your heart's content! I will see if anyone changes my mind...(do I know what that emoji means exactly...? not really. oh well.)
  2. One of the ways that you can increase your Connection to a Shard of Adonalsium is by taking certain actions that line up with that Shard’s Intent. For instance, we see in Mistborn: Secret History that Kelsier is very Connected to Ruin, despite him not even using Ruin’s magic system. This is because Kelsier is a very destructive person, preferring to destroy rather than preserve, and we can see this in his actions. However, Feruchemical Duralumin seems to work by allowing one to store their natural ability to form Connections. So, if one wanted to Connect to a particular Shard, it might be that all they’d need to do is to perform a few actions that line up with their Intent while tapping a large dose of Feruchemical Duralumin. On the flip side, someone might be able to prevent themselves from becoming too Connected to a Shard by deliberately storing Feruchemical Duralumin while performing actions that line up with their Intent. For example, if Kelsier were to get his hands on an Unsealed Feruchemical Duralumin mind, he could store his ability to form Connections while fighting and killing to prevent his Connection to Ruin from gaining strength, and when he performed acts that lined up with Preservation’s Intent, he could tap that stored Connection. Because the strength of a magic user is at least partially determined by the strength of the Connection between that person and the Shard that their magic comes from, I think that this method might be able to be used to strengthen one’s previously existing powers, though I’m not sure they would be able to form new powers from scratch. I think that the reason we don’t see Mistborn, Mistings, or Hemalurgists increase their power over time is because they simply don’t have the natural ability to create Connections strong enough to make an increase of power. Radiants can increase the strength of their powers though, and that leads me to believe that the reason they can do this is because their Spren have highly invested spiritwebs they would be able to increase their power over time; a “large”, highly invested spiritual aspect allows for greater Connections to be made naturally. To help this theory, we see in this WoB that if Kelsier, now a highly expanded Cognitive Shadow, went to Roshar, he could grant someone powers by bonding to them.
  3. In mistborn Secret History, Hoid pretty easily beats up Kelsier, but Kelsier didn't have access to his allomantic powers, and he didn't have the experience that he does now. Not only that, but Kelsier is almost certainly a fullborn now, as he created the Bands of Mourning. So if they faced off again, who would win?
  4. In Mistborn Secret History, Preservation mentions to Kelsier that both allomancers and feruchemists will last longer than a normal person, as they are more invested than a regular human. This is a bit confusing to me, because Brandon has said before that allomancers aren't particularly invested when they aren't currently burning a metal. So does this mean that an allomancer only stays a bit longer in the cognitive realm after dying if they were burning a metal when they died? Or is it the potential to become invested, the Connection to Preservation, that makes them last longer? As to another question I had in regards to becoming a cognitive shadow, do the bio-chromatic breaths that an awakener holds transfer with them to the cognitive realm when they die, and stay with them until they either find a way to come back as cognitive shadow or move to the Beyond? Or since they are primarily in the physical realm, they simply disperse? If an awakener were to come back as a returned, do they retain their breaths?
  5. So this is my theory in the dragon steel chapters brandon has made available, yolen is most of the time referred to as “the continent of yolen” now we go on to mistborn secret history , ati, before he dies utters the word vax, now presumably, the last place ati was before taking up the shard of ruin was yolen, or should I say vax (I will explain this later) in warbreaker, hoid refers to his homeland as a “place we’re to lands meet and gods have died” furthermore, there is a saying on yolen that goes “may two worlds become one to you” and Brandon has SPECIFICALLY stated that this is NOT in reference to any realms so my theory is that vax isn’t a planet, but another landmass or continent on yolen
  6. So, I finally got Arcanum Unbounded and the last conversation between Vin and Kelsier is the (in my opinion) second saddest thing in Mr. Sanderson's work. Vin's just so harsh, and for those to be her last words ever to Kelsier, is, well... Kelsier's not a good person, and Vin always saw through him like few ever did, but I want to scream at the book "darn it Vin, you weren't this harsh in your thoughts on Reen, and you were more forgiving of Rashek! And you know what hurts the most, Vin? In the end, it was you who left. Sure, Kelsier died, but he never truly abandoned you, never stopped looking out for you, believing in you, being proud of you when you grew into the person you became, not even death stopped him from trying to do what was best for you because he is Thief Dad and you are Thief Daughter." I mean, yes, Vin deserves her happy eternity in the beyond with Elend, but Kelsier didn't even get to meet Mare (or Dox, or Clubs) in the afterlife, had a front-row seat to the-world-being-destroyed-and-it's-pretty-much-all-his-fault-and-there's-almost-nothing-he-can-do-about-it, and also went through the (in my opinion) single saddest thing in Mr. Sanderson's work (Leras's death), and now Vin can't even say anything nice/good/kind to/about him without following it with "but, ". Honestly, it hurts, and it honestly makes me want to not reread the original Mistborn trilogy, so I gotta ask, guys: How do you deal with sad Cosmere thoughts that you can't explain to a therapist or non-reader friends?
  7. So I was thinking of BoM and got to wondering why it was that marasi gave up the BoM to wax , like how did she know he was dead and I remembered this thread I read where it says Harmony basically influenced her kinda like how kelsier influenced ppl in SH. AND I got to wondering, how good is Harmony's Futuresight ?? Like he has preservation so that's a plus but then he has ruin so that's a minus. His intent is to maintain harmony. So I'm guessing he worries about the future. So I'm guessing he has good Futuresight. Maybe not as good as old Leras, but good enough. Saze is still young for a vessel so he might still be learning the ropes. Whatchu think ??
  8. What are the odds that the Era 3 Serial Killer is either Kell or Spook (but probably Kell)? We know that Kell could easily have been a villain in different scenarios, so who's to say this won't be one of them?
  9. Listening to last week's Shardcast I had a pretty baseless theory on Vax. Theory: Vax is a planet* where a majority or at least large number of humans live in the Cognitive Realm. In Secret History, Ati, while confused, made a comment about Vax, which I believe is because he saw humans and also recognised that he was in the CR, leading him to assume he was probably on Vax because that's where you would expect to find people hanging out in the CR. So a similar concept to Silverlight, except not entirely based in the Cognitive, and on a distinct planet** *I'm taking Vax to be a planet as a base assumption, which it may or may not be (and Brandon has neither confirmed or denied), but is kind of integral to this entire theory. **I am unsure whether or not this is a contentious point or not but I don't believe Silverlight corresponds to a planet based on this WOB. Poke, prod and spike away!
  10. In the Genius thread (which isn't designed for replies), I saw the following idea from @Khyrindor: I wanted to expand on this because I liked it so much, and get some discussion! My thinking is that while Kelsier and Hoid hate each other, and will probably be at odds, we'll find the two of them working towards similar but perhaps incompatible goals, and see the grand escapades that ensue as the two recruit or plan against the other's machinations, even though they may not actually be fighting against each other specifically. An example would be that they both need the same object or person to help them with two separate goals, so while they're not technically enemies, for one to succeed, the other will have to fail.