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  1. Of all the beautiful things you can do with language, exploring and exploiting its depth is pretty much my favorite! That's why I really appreciate it when authors hide meaning and nuance not only in their words, but also in their wording. Be it subtle, blatant, sophisticate, simple, sly, audacious, subtle, daring -- if its playful and clever I'm all for it! Therefore I'd like to ask you guys for your favourite instances of such uses of language - from books, series, movies, comics, lyrics, stuff you came up with yourselves - I'm eager to learn about them! Just to give you an idea of what I mean, here is an example: I recently pondered Star Wars lore when I realised (and yes this took me 20+ years) that Darth Vader is literally called Darth Father since Vader is the Dutch (?) word for father. Being German (our word for father is Vater) I should have noticed this a long time ago but in this I find the beauty of Vaders naming: spell it out in plain sight for everyone to see and still manage to shock them all with the big reveal.
  2. Inspired by discussions on these threads: https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/109284-perfect-gemstones/ https://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/109181-air-travel-on-roshar/, I've been thinking about how much power (in the sense of physical energy over time) can be drawn from Investiture (especially in cases where it isn't end-positive - new Investiture isn't being drawn in - but the Investiture is just "sitting there" powering something, like Stormlight in a light source or Breath in a Lifeless or Hemalurgic spikes in a person or creature). While these are all extremely rough order-of-magnitude estimates, I think there's some that can be at least roughly quantified. (I have no idea how to quantify using Iron Feruchemy to power a perpetual motion machine.) Stormlight as a light source While Surgebinding might be end-positive, using Stormlight in spheres/gems for illumination seems end-neutral (ish: it's not exactly a 'magic system'). As pointed out on the Perfect Gemstones thread, while generally the Stormlight leaks out of the gemstone, it isn't really being "used up" or converted to energy. The loss of Stormlight is just leakage due to flaws in the gemstone - since perfect gems don't lose Stormlight but still glow. A mark glows 'almost as bright as a candle' and a broam 'with the light of several candles'. As Stormlight lighting doesn't emit heat, unlike actual candles which output most of their energy as heat, this is much less than 1 watt per broam of Stormlight. Awakening Awakening is end-neutral, but Breath can provide physical energy: Lifeless and Awakened objects don't need to eat to expend energy. Vasher's Law of Comparability states that " The amount of Breath required to Awaken something isn't necessarily indicative of its power once Awakened", so there's not going to be a simple "1 Breath = x watts" equivalence. But the most Breath-efficient Awakening is a Lifeless, since it's the nearest to a human form. Lifeless don't really seem superhumanly strong, so probably roughly equivalent to a human... approximate human power output is a few hundred watts, so roughly a few hundred watts for 1 Breath. The open question here is non-human Lifeless. Vasher can awaken a squirrel Lifeless for 1 Breath, but it is much smaller and weaker than a human. Would Awakening a horse or elephant Lifeless still cost 1 Breath? Hemalurgy Hemalurgy is actually end-negative, but it still apparently can provide physical energy. Koloss don't need to eat normal food, and yet they're far stronger than a normal human. The Kandra Blessing of Potency, which is basically the same thing as koloss spikes, gives extra strength to each muscle "More than doubled" - probably each spike adds somewhat less than one human-equivalent strength (due to Hemalurgic decay), so for a human-size kandra, the strength is between 2x and 3x normal. So by that principle a koloss's baseline strength (for a human sized 'new' koloss) is probably something on the order of 4x normal human (if there was no hemalurgic decay, it would probably be 5x). So by that principle, each Hemalurgic iron spike would provide somewhat less than the few hundred watts I suggested for a Breath powering a Lifeless. But koloss continue to grow, and if they don't need to eat actual nourishing food, the Hemalurgic strength is presumably providing more power for a larger koloss. And if the kandra Blessing of Potency strengthens "each muscle", a kandra in a larger body (like TenSoon's horse form) is presumably getting more out of it. There's going to be a size limit (we're told in WOB kandra can't get to chasmfiend size) but even at horse size a Blessing of Potency is going to be providing more than a horsepower - maybe a kilowatt or so for 2 spikes? Which is pretty good, as Hemalurgic spikes don't hold much Investiture. However, while the Blessing of Potency increases endurance, it doesn't give true tirelessness like Lifeless have.
  3. This is probably a repeat question, but I'd like to start a thread on this...How is Odium so powerful? My understanding was, that when Adol(...) was shattered, each of the Splintered pieces of (him) were equally distributed? How is it that Odium has managed to Shatter so many other Shards? And one other thing...All the other Shards are...ideas? (Honor, Cultivation, Ruin, Preservation, etc). What is Odium? What does that even mean?
  4. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Daa! I think this has been my favorite one so far. I'm happy with how it turned out.
  5. Hi everyone, I'm new and excited to get started! So Hoid is not a shard, that's always made me think, what can he do. Hoid has an assortment of powers but I have a feeling we don't know of them all, for example Hoid is both a mistborn and a light weaver but when Yasna threatened him with a shard blade he said that he doubted it could kill him, but from what I know with only the powers he has, a shard blade would still be very deadly. So from what Hoid implied he is much more powerful then we know, so that raises a question what are those powers and also where would Hoid fall on the power scale, he would come up higher then a radiant and an allomancers for sure but would he be higher lower or equal to a shard? Could Hoid be more or just as powerful as Adonalsium?
  6. Several times in the book the POV character has spoken an ideal in time of great peril . Usually that person was on the brink of death, stormlight almost run out and then blam they speak the ideal and are invigorated. Im suggesting when one speaks an ideal something happens that infuses the Radiant with full power of stormlight . Kaladin when he was fighting Moaah and graves . Dalinar when he was on his knees and Odium burned the way of Kong’s , even Lift when facing Darkness , she hadn’t eaten in a while the stump refused to feed her . Yet all three were powerful after the words We haven’t seen anyone speak a 4th ideal , but I imagine they will get there armor and that should take a fascinating amount of power to manifest it for the first time . What do you guys think ? Dio the words infuse them with power?
  7. Recently I received a comment on my Oathbringer Lore video that started me down this particular rabbit hole. “I don’t get why Odium doesn’t take the power of the shards he kills.” (VREODe) Initially, this seemed easy to answer. Odium already has a purpose and intent that goes so well in line with the Vessel’s own intent and incorporating other shards would only muddle that intent further. But as I thought about the implications I realized that there is something that I was overlooking about the nature of Odium and the potential union that we might have overlooked. The power and intent of Ambition. [Credit to Botanica Xu who created Grandpa Odium, please follow the link and follow her on Tumbler] First let’s review why Odium would willingly pass up the power of a shattered shard. Harmony is the perfect example of the danger combining shards poses. While Harmony likely wields the greatest collective power in the Cosmere at the moment, he is also the most severely limited. In his letter to Hoid he expresses the growing struggles he has in acting upon the greater Cosmere due to the need to maintain the balance between two opposing shards. This seems to restrict him far more than the single shards ever were. His immense power might destroy him if he is not careful. It's easy to see that such a conflicting nature would be incredibly unappealing to a shard like Odium. He obviously has plans and intent to destroy or at least subdue the other powers of the Cosmere for his own ends. Perhaps he is just paranoid that he will fall like Adonalsium and seeks to eliminate any potential threats who have the investiture or knowledge to destroy him. In fact, the nature of events on Scadrial, where mortals ascend and destroy an established shard, likely haunt his dreams. This would explain Odium’s apparent terror when Dalinar created a perpendicularity. At that moment Dalinar became a sliver of something Odium thought destroyed and he fled. It seems clear to me that Odium fears to lose his power, and that fear motivates his actions. But what does this have to do with the death of Ambition? Brandon has said that the moment the shards scattered across the stars, Odium was targeting Ambition. Likely he foresaw Ambition as the most likely to challenge his rule and thus needed to be eliminated. Ambition wasn’t the first shard to fall, but eventually, Odium took her out. There are scraps of power left behind from that encounter, so we know the fight was figuratively bloody. After the downfall and splintering of Dominion and Devotion Odium left quite a mess of their investiture and the effects of his decision to lock the investiture in the Cognitive Realm has resulted in some unintended consequences. Perhaps he has refined his ability to kill shards since then, and he had another opportunity with Ambition. It is likely then to assume that the shattering of Ambition was far cleaner, and perhaps it will be difficult to determine what exactly happened until the events of that fight are canonized. But as I answered this question some small thoughts that had been floating around in my mind came back to me. Core questions that I couldn’t shake off. How was Odium able to fight and kill two shards that were united? Would the power of Ambition resonate with a man like Rayse who already had so much natural ambition? Has it ever been stated officially that Odium is just one shard? Devotion and Dominion were likely pitted against each other allowing Odium to bring them down due to their opposing natures. But Honor and Cultivation are not so opposed. The nature of their relationship was likely complicated but it didn’t seem as openly hostel as other pairings thus far. It seems odd that another equal albeit aggressive shard could sweep in and kill Honor. In fact, it seems to me that Honor and Cultivation sought to trap Odium to prevent his future rampaging. So, what happened? How did one defeat two? I think Odium secretly holds more than his share of power. What reason does he have to abandon the power of a defeated shard that matches his own intent so well? In physics, there are some curious effects that we can observe in the nature of sound waves. If you have two sound waves that have the same amplitude but inverted phase (antiphase), they will cancel each other out leaving a strange silence behind. This is observably similar to the nature of Ruin and Preservation, two similar yet opposing forces that cancel each other out. However, if you have two wavelengths of equal strength that are in phase they amplify into one more powerful wave. This is likely a parallel that can be drawn between two different shards. If opposed they cancel each other out. If in phase they can amplify. Based on the observed Cosmere, I doubt that Odium completely took all of Ambition’s power, it seems there were large splinters left behind at least on one world. But I sincerely doubt Odium would leave behind the power that would only bolster his intent and nature. It would explain why he has become such a danger to the Cosmere that Hoid seeks to gather the other shards against him. Remember Odium destroyed Honor and seeks to destroy Cultivation so he can break free of the Rosharian system. The other shards might only be safe currently because Odium has been trapped on Roshar for so long. Naturally, there is little support for this theory, and I’m likely wrong about this. Perhaps Odium would be too paranoid of corrupting his own power base to incorporate even a portion of another shard. Yet there are some observations that I can make that imply that I might be right about this. For instance, it is interesting that on Threnody the fragment of ambition seems to create cognitive shadows of the deceased that can act of their own accord, something that seems prevalent in the forces of Odium and the fused. Is it hard to believe that the power to infuse the remains of the dead into service is a power that Odium acquired rather than developed? To me, it seems far too likely to be a coincidence and the temptation of Ambition’s power far too great to be ignored.
  8. Like the SLA characters themselves, we often take spren for granted. I thought I’d add my own definition. (What a concept!) Shallan calls spren “living ideas” (WoR, Kindle p. 41). Jasnah describes them as the personification of some natural force or emotion. In Cosmere terms, spren are the Physical Realm manifestations of Cognitive Realm ideas. 1. A quick review of realmatic theory: Sazed, Shai and Jasnah each say that all things exist in three “forms,” three realms. These realms are the Physical, Cognitive and Spiritual – Body, Mind and Spirit. (See the “Origin of the Cosmere” post for a fuller discussion of this subject. You might also look at “Plato, Spinoza and Jung’s Contributions to Realmatic Theory” for background information.) a. I believe all things exist simultaneously in each realm. Except for what I’ll call an “inchoate idea” (defined below), there is always a one-to-one-to-one correspondence for each object or idea in each of the three realms. How an object or idea appears in each realm – its “presence” – may differ from realm to realm. But the one-to-one-to-one correspondence is always there. (Some disagree with this idea.) If there is such a thing as a “unit of investiture,” each gob of investiture would hold the same number of such units in each of the three realms regardless of how the gob appears in a realm. (Some also disagree with this idea.) An “inchoate idea” is an idea that hasn’t been sufficiently clarified in Physical Realm sentient minds to form a Spiritual Realm “ideal.” Thus, it does not yet (and may never) exist in the Spiritual Realm, though it does exist in the Physical and Cognitive Realms. b. Example: Tozbek’s boat The Wind’s Pleasure exists in the Physical Realm. It also exists in “the thoughts of the people who served on it, knew it, thought about it” – in the Cognitive Realm. (WoR, Kindle p. 119.) Because it exists in the Physical Realm, for reasons expressed in the linked post The Wind’s Pleasure also exists as a Spiritual Realm ideal, an “essence.” One object, defined by its three points of contact – Body, Mind and Spirit. c. As stated in the “Origin of the Cosmere” post, I believe all magic begins in the mind that directs it. (There is an ongoing debate whether this “rule” applies to “unconscious” magic, like healing when you’re asleep; but I think there may be agreement on the conscious exercise of power.) Cognitive investiture – the mind – is required to create Physical Realm magical effects. 2. Before spren manifest in the Physical Realm – before spren become “living” ideas – they begin as simple ideas created by the collective minds of the Physical Realm’s sentient beings. A simple idea’s Physical Realm presence is the bodies of the sentient minds that hold that idea – us. 3. “Living” ideas in the Physical Realm – spren – come in different sizes. Rainspren are smaller than riverspen are smaller than Cusicesh. These size differences reflect the different amounts of investiture comprising each spren. Shallan says lesser spren like rainspren are mindless, while riverspren and windspren are mischievous and can mimic human voices. “Powerful spren” like the Nightwatcher have greater presence and powers. In-between are the so-called “Radiant spren” – splinter-size fragments of power, Pattern says. 4. Regardless of size, spren are characterized by their “sentience” – their capacity to feel, the lowest level of consciousness. For a “pre-spren” idea to transition to the Physical Realm and attain sentience seems to require additional investiture. My analogy is the addition or subtraction of energy to cause matter state-changes. Shallan gave Stormlight to The Wind’s Pleasure to enable it to turn to water (after it first harrumphed at her over what it perceived was a bribe of the Stormlight.) 5. I speculate that the type of investiture involved in the transition is relevant. Power only invests consistent with its mandate (intent). Syl required Honor’s investiture to manifest, as Pattern and Wyndle required some combination of Cultivation’s and Honor’s. A mandate-consistent idea plus the same mandated investiture (lock and key) determines the nature of the spren manifesting. (When the investiture is Stormlight, this consideration is irrelevant. I believe Stormlight consolidates the investiture of each of the three Shards, so Stormlight by itself can animate any spren’s transition.) 6. Syl is a splinter-size fragment of Honor’s power. Syl “dangerously” enters the Physical Realm as a mere windspren, however, and only with a windspren’s “sentience.” (WoR, Kindle p. 132.) If she can’t find Kaladin, she will remain a windspren. When Syl does bond with cognitively like-minded Kaladin (i.e., whose Spirit Web reflects the Windrunners’ “Divine Attributes” of protection and leading), her mind develops further and she attains “sapience” – “wisdom,” the capacity to make judgments. 7. A bonded spren is a bit of a god's mind attached to a human mind. A bonded spren remains as cognitive investiture. The Nahel bond turns a Knight Radiant into the Shard’s avatar and enables the Knight to direct the Shard's power in the Physical Realm. That little bit of Honor’s cognitive investiture called an honorspren is what combines with Kaladin's mind to enable his direction of magical effects. That’s the Confused version of spren. See if you can straighten it out for me a little...
  9. So, if a Knight Radiant were walking along and cut himself, then breathed in stormlight, the stormlight would immediately recognize that the cut does not fit with the knight's perception of himself and begin to heal the cut. So here's my example: A knight radiant is charging along in battle with his comrades when they are attacked from behind. The group breaks rank and swivels about to face the ambush, but the knight radiant aforementioned is too slow and is thrown to the ground by one of the enemy monsters. One arm is pinned under the creatures foot and the other hand is caught under a rock. Unable to summon his shardblade and unable to use surgebinding because he is a Edgedancer and not even resurrecting a dead boy will save him, the knight watches helplessly as the monster lifts its massive club to mash in his forehead. Except... he doesn't watch helplessly! He has a hidden power! He immediately convinces himself that he has a third arm sprouting out of his chest, only he lost this arm during the battle. It was very painful. The stormlight immediately sympathizes and helps him by healing his third arm which miraculously appears out of his chest, summons a shardblade, and slays the monster. He then is made fun of by his peers because he is deformed and amputation doesn't help at all. Eh? Plausible?
  10. The choices are: Illumination Adhesion Gravitation Division Progression Adhesion Transformation Transportation Cohesion Tension
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