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  1. Hi all, a quick question for everyone. As we know, Hoid and Jasnah are now romantically involved. I'm not going to lie––I was definitely a bit surprised here. My personal theories had been that Hoid was carrying a torch for someone from his past and that Jasnah didn't want a romantic interest, but here we are. I would usually never complain about a well-balanced intellectual relationship between some of the most beloved characters in the series, but I'm a bit concerned for these two. First of all, Hoid and Jasnah are both incredibly ambitious individuals. They both have their own agendas and, while they may line up at the moment, I'm not sure how much longer that will last. We know Hoid has to have some sort of end goal, but is it even something that we would consider "good" and not "evil"? We can't tell. He's been working to achieve something for thousands of years, so I think it's unlikely that he would stop for a single romantic interest, unless his relationship with Jasnah develops pretty seriously over the course of the series. Also, Jasnah has a very strong set of convictions and morals. She probably wouldn't change her entire mindset around just to accommodate any sort of emotional intimacy with Hoid, even if she enjoys it. In my opinion, while they both like being in a romantic relationship, they're both using each other for something. Hoid requires a social standing and access to resources (and an incentive not to kill him, even when he's being... himself), which Jasnah can provide him. Jasnah, on the other hand, is a scholar at heart. She wants knowledge about the Cosmere and its workings, and who better to aid her than the worldhopping, quick-witted menace himself? Another point of concern for me stems from the language that they use. Hoid tells Jasnah that he loves her for her paranoia, out of all of her qualities. I thought this was a little bit suspicious. It definitely doesn't seem romantic; if anything, it seems like he's seeking protection from something. Jasnah's paranoia could be keeping them both alive, sure, but a constant state of stress is not something that someone wishes on a partner. This seems especially unbalanced when we take into account the fact that his presence seems to put Jasnah at ease. At the very least, they seem to have some... minor communication issues. A third thing could be Jasnah's asexuality. Hoid doesn't seem to be completely considerate of that, hoping that his kisses and touch can spark something in her, when that's just not how it works. Jasnah does participate in physical intimacy for his pleasure, but I still think he should be more understanding about her preferences. To be honest, I'm kind of rooting for them. Hoid and Jasnah would make an unstoppable power couple, and I genuinely believe that they like one another and that they could actually fall in love. They just need to have a serious talk about what they want from each other, how far their relationship will go (unofficial lovers? marriage? plenty of possibilities), and their personal plans for both the near and far future. And if they decide that they can't speak about those things, well... that kind of speaks for itself. For future Stormlight books, I would love to see one's reaction when the other is in serious danger (it might be a bit difficult to find a circumstance that could kill Hoid, but Nightblood's on Roshar, so anything is possible). With any strong relationship––especially romantic ones––a reaction in that situation says a lot about the personalities of and dynamic between the two characters. And, I know between now and the next Stormlight book, I'm definitely going to be looking through everything Cosmere with a fine-toothed comb for mentions of Hoid and his end goals. Hoid and Jasnah are both already so interesting as individuals, so there's obviously a lot to analyze when considering them together. Thoughts? Opinions? P.S. I almost considered doing an astrology-esque analysis of Radiant order compatibility. Are a Lightweaver and an Elsecaller as meant to be as an Aries and a Libra? Or are they completely doomed, like a Taurus and a Leo? (I'm sorry if these relate to your life in any way––just picked the first ones off of Google. ) If anyone has actually done a zodiac-style analysis of the Radiants, I would love to see it. If not... well then. I guess I have a new project on my hands?
  2. The pronunciation of Jorgen’s name is a highly debated topic at times, and I’d like to make a poll to see what people think.
  3. Personally I’m partial to Idos Domai and Blargedorf
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  5. I considered putting this in 17th Shard Discussion, but I am frightened to discuss non-technical site-related things there. So, status updates. When we follow people, we are aware that more of these may now appear in your notifications. If you reply to one and get unlucky, your notification box might get flooded with the Shard telling you every single other person who commented after you, and if you're really unlucky, two Sharders will choose to have a super long conversation in the replies of one! Oh, how quickly the joy fades from my twenty-one notifications when all are simply... "[Sharder] has replied to a status update." Intro aside, what kind of things do you prefer in status updates? You can select multiple options, and feel free to discuss if you like. Do you find some annoying, or too often, or something else? And if I missed a type of update, let me know!
  6. So, I realized that as much as I am a religious geek in real life, I am a geek of all the many cosmere religions and love them all differently and uniquely (much as I do IRL, but I digress). This poll was just out of curiosity, maybe promote discussion? I love most of these religions, but my top favorite is Survivorism (solely because I love Kelsier). (This is in a RoW thread because... I have a fear of accidentally spoiling it?)
  7. Who would win? @AonEne, or @Channelknight Fadran. This came from a discussion on the Random Magic Systems thread. Votes aren't public so that Ene can't take revenge.
  8. Yes, I know everybody loves Shai and no, I'm not adding Dilaf to the list!
  9. (Here's part 1:) I initially wanted the Wit tales to be the third poll, but then I decided that I'll do that one separately eventually, once the spoiler policy changes, so I can include the non-Stormlight story as well! I went for the Whelan covers instead. These are the paintings in question (spoilered for size): Also, as a reminder, here's links to the summaries of the prologues (Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, Oathbringer, Rhythm of War) and epilogues (Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, Oathbringer, Rhythm of War). I also took Keteks and the Sleepless prophecies on the back covers into consideration, but I didn't think readers have strong opinions on those. Let me know if you think otherwise! These are my personal picks: Prologue: Way of Kings for me, easily, because Szeth. Epilogue: This one's a bit tricky for me, but I'll go with Oathbringer. Seeing Wit openly use a magic system from another series is neat, and him bonding a spren was such a nice surprise. Cover: Rhythm of War - I love the sense of space in this painting, as well as the moody colors. I love Way of Kings and Oathbringer as well. Words of Radiance is also good, but I don't like the colors quite as much and the poses of the characters look rather unnatural to me. Still a good cover, but I don't like it as much as the rest. The color combination of Way of Kings is so beautiful to look at, by the way. So . . . what do you think?
  10. Narrating characters, so no Nightblood or Denth votes! (Also Nightblood would totally win) Mine goes to Vivenna. I loved her heel faced turn. Siri had a strong beginning, but stuff stopped happening in her chapters. Lightsong actively tried to make sure stuff didn't happen in his chapters, which was kind of fun, but I found myself skipping his chapters upon rereads. Vasher was fascinating and grumpy but I don't think we saw enough from his point-of-view to really feel as close to him as we did with the other three.
  11. So there's a bunch of "traditions" with Stormlight books. And I'd like to know: Which book is your favorite in each discipline? Some reminders what you’re voting for, in case you forgot some of these . . . Interludes: Way of Kings: Szeth as main interlude character, Rysn in Shinovar, Axies the Collector, Ishikk at the Purelake, etc. Words of Radiance: Eshonai as the main interlude character, Rysn visiting the Reshi islands, Lift’s interlude, Taravangian’s first interlude, etc. Oathbringer: Venli as main interlude character, Rysn defending the vault, Kaza’s interlude in Aimia, Teft’s alcohol problems, etc. Rhythm of War: Taravangian as main interlude character, Chiri-Chiri, Syl, Sja-anat, etc. (you probably remember most of these) Epigraphs: Way of Kings: Death Rattles, Hoid’s letter to Frost, Jasnah’s Notes about Voidbringers, The Way of Kings Words of Radiance: Navani’s Journal, Listener Songs, Words of Radiance, Frost’s letter to Hoid, The Diagram Oathbringer: Oathbringer, letters from Endowment & Autonomy & Harmony, Gemstone Archive, Hessi’s Mystica about the Unmade, Dawnchant & The Way of Kings post-script Rhythm of War: Navani’s Fabrial Lecture, Harmony’s letter to Hoid, Rhythm of War, Kalak’s Journal, El’s Musings I might do a follow-up with Prologues, Epilogues and Wit stories. The site only allows 3 polls per thread, so this has to do for now. My picks are: Interludes: Words of Radiance. It has so many small beautiful stories. Eshonai's recurring interludes aren't my favorites (those would be Szeth), but there are so many iconic chapters among the other ones. Taravangian's first POV ever introduces his curse and boon, Szeth's interlude in Urithiru is just epic. Ym is my favorite one-off interlude character (rest in peace, he'd been right at home in Urithiru . . . sigh.) Rysn visiting the Reshi islands is still my favorite Rysn interlude by a long shot. Also, Lift's interlude is the longest ever, it's a good bit longer than a few Cosmere short stories (like The Eleventh Metal and The Hope of Elantris) and is so well-done. Epigraphs: Oathbringer. Everyone of them is great. The three letters are my favorite epigraphs ever. The Autonomy section in particular is making me excited and giving me headaches to this day. The Gemstone Archive has a lot of bits about the False Desolation and also some emotional moments ("I'm going to miss that"). Unmade lore is always great . . . and the fact that Part 5 changes from one book a another at the decisive moment in the story has such a neat additional effect. I just love it, in my opinion these will be hard to ever surpass! Flashbacks: Oathbringer (Dalinar): Well, I guess this is the easy one of them, but I still like the Kaladin flashbacks a lot. Dalinar's backstory just has such a wide range of emotions. Some scenes are badass, some are terrifying, other ones are heart-breaking. The perfect combination of everything, and Jasnah reading The Way of Kings to Dalinar is one of my favorite Stormlight moments to this day. So what do you think?
  12. I think I'm getting addicted to the poll feature... It's simple! Answer the poll. I've included two criteria. Whether you want a redemption or not, and whether you think it's actually going to happen or not. I saw a thread on this and wanted to a visual on people's opinions and thoughts. Personally, he makes such a good villain through his ideals vs. Kaladin's ideals that I no longer want a redemption.
  13. I'm not sure if this is already a topic somewhere or not, but I couldn't find it, so if it is, let me know! Anyway, what's your favorite Mistborn Era so far, and why?
  14. Pretty shocked we never got one of these up, but anyway, who is your personal favorite character in Warbreaker and why? Me personally? I deeply feel that Lightsong is one of the greatest characters Brandon has ever created and it will always hurt me a little that we only had him for one book and never got to see him interact with Nightblood. "I try to avoid having thoughts. They lead to other thoughts, and-if you're not careful-those lead to actions. Actions make you tired. I have this on rather good authority from someone who once read it in a book." Lightsong.
  15. So, one of the biggest bombshells in the series so far came near the end of Rhythm of War; Rayse is out of the picture for good, and Taravangian has ascended to become the new Odium. I'll admit it took me surprise; I thought there was a decent chance Rayse would die before the end of the series (and Taravangian was on my shortlist for people likely to take up his Shard) but I didn't think it would happen until Stormlight Five at the earliest. Which does lead one to wonder - with the apparent 'big bad' of the series dead four books in, who will end up taking his place as the greatest threat to Roshar? I have some thoughts of my own, but I'm curious as to where the overall opinion of the fandom is leaning at this stage.
  16. So, what are everyone’s views about Moash, especially considering recent actions seen in the preview chapters? I understand there is a lot of grey area; perhaps you think that Moash is a good, but misguided, person. Or perhaps you think he is corrupted by the Unmade. Or maybe you can’t decide. As for the second question, the options once again have a fair bit of ambiguity. If Moash doesn’t get redeemed, he might just die without much of a conflict. Or perhaps Moash will live/die unredeemed, having destroyed Bridge Four and wreaked havoc everywhere. I am interested to see what everyone thinks about these questions.
  17. Radiant Orders that people have so far put forward Adolin as a candidate for: Edgedancer, Stoneward, Willshaper, Dustbringer. He does fit within the worldview of several Orders, after the official Radiant quiz, Adolin is also fit for becoming an Elsecaller. Hey, Lightweaver's also available as an option. So, which Order do you think fits him the best?
  18. I’m thinking about getting back on Discord, and I wanted to know if any cool people* are on the 17th shard server. I wouldn’t want to join only to find that it’s full of non-cool people, right? * ‘cool people’ are defined as people reading this thread.
  19. I will tell you all a story on this fine morning: Once upon a time, there was a teenager who loved Brandon Sanderson, and he decided to make a forum account. it just so happened that he was reading the Wheel of Time at the time of this decision, and thus thought it would be a good idea to make a WoT name. That teenager was me. And now that my Wheel of Time craze has worn off, I have found myself wishing for a Cosmere name. So this is the question: I want to change my display name and pfp, but have made a sort of reputation on the Shard, and people actually know me. Go figure... So I don't want to cause confusion. This poll/topic serves two purposes: To give everyone a sort of heads-up for the name change that will probably eventually happen- and to get an idea of how confusing this will be. Thanks! Later--- CLOSE THE POLLS! I have hereby decided to keep my name, and my new pfp.
  20. I, and I suspect many others, have never bought one of the leatherbounds before and while I made pledge for the Way of Kings Kickstarter I am unsure whether or not I should go through with it. I am not sure if the cost will be worth the amount of value I will get out of them. So I have made this poll to give myself and anyone else who is considering buying these leatherbounds or any others an idea of what sort of value and usage to expect to get out of owning one of the leatherbounds. Hopefully this will help me and anyone else who has the same thoughts I am having come to a decision. So if you are the owner of a leatherbound please select the option in the poll that best describes how you use your leatherbounds. Thank you! (Of course, if you do not own one of the leatherbounds please don't vote in the poll. That would defeat the purpose)
  21. Kaladin is my favorite character. In any series. Ever. He was already my favorite Stormlight character after The Way of Kings, and after Words of Radiance, I moved him all the way to the top spot. I was a little sad that he didn't get as much time on-screen in Oathbringer, but his return to his home and subsequent trip with the Parsh remains one of my favorite scenes.This brings me to my question: How do you feel about Kaladin? Since coming onto the 17th Shard, I have seen people who love Kaladin and those who don't find him all that intersting, or even find him a little annoying. This has made me curious: has Brandon Sanderson made a character who, if not universally loved, is at least universally not-hated? If you do hate Kaladin please comment and explain your reasons, do you find him badly written, does his character just not work for you, or is there some other reason? Feel free to comment no matter your opinion on Kaladin, I would love to "hear" your opinion.
  22. Personally I like my fantasy to reflect the middle ages, maybe some few powers or techs from latter era's but the second guns enter I get a little uncomfortable.
  23. What alignment, on the Dungeons and Dragons scale, do you think Nightblood is? I think Chaotic Good because he wants to do good (destroy evil) but doesn't know who to destroy and so acts pretty chaotically.
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