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  1. Hey all, Shard of Theory back with another hopefully awesome theory. I was thinking about Oathbringer, young Dalinar, and the Nightwatcher's(Cultivation's) boon to him, and this theory hit me like Vin hitting Straff at the end of Well of Ascension. The Nightwatcher offered Dalinar Nightblood, which he declined. The first time we see Nightblood in Roshar is in the hands of Nale, the at least partially insane Herald and leader of the Skybreakers. Nale, however, gives Nightblood to Szeth. We've all wondered where Nale got Nightblood - and I think we've all kind of assumed he picked it off a random "criminal's" body. But what if it's actually a boon from the Nightwatcher? I can see a crazy Herald going to a piece of God and asking to be able to destroy evil - isn't that what Nale wants? To end "evil" permanently? It's possible this has already been posted, or is common knowledge to all but me, but I haven't seen it before and so I wanted to share it with y'all. What do you think about Nale getting a boon from the Nightwatcher? Would he, and if so, what would he have asked for(or rather, how would he have worded it)? What do you think his curse is?
  2. I just finished rereading Oathbringer, and I'm curious about the Cryptic spren that Wit bonds in the Epilogue. It seems to be "suck" there at the broken palace. Do we know why it can't just return to Shadesmar? If a spren begins bonding a human and the human dies before being fully bonded, does the spren get trapped in the Physical Realm? Is that what happened with Eshonai and Timbre? Also, a side question. Wit mentions the Fused may have a secret reason for digging up the rubble. Any thoughts on that? First I though they were also looking for the Cryptic. But is there something else supposedly going on at the palace location?
  3. So Brandon Sanderson is definitely going to go into detail with this. At the end of OB, the standing of all (big) kingdoms and alethkar includes: Azish- in the coalition, but not fully until they can trust the alethi to keep their armies Thaylens- greatful to the alethi for saving their city, but Fen may or may not be bitter about it. I can see the thaylens and the alethi presenting a unified front in any political battles coming. Vedens- ..hard to say... Dalinar won't trust Taravangian as much, given adolins (correct) suggestion that he's with odium. Given that the veden government (as we've seen so far ) are massively influenced by the followers of the diagram, who work for odium. The shin- no idea. They happen to be a corrupted government so... My prediction is that instantly the coalition will begin planning a new place to attack, as the voidbringers have lost their momentum, and are regrouping the coalition have a perfect chance to grab a kingdom (alethkar?) Afterwards they will start stabilising the coalition. dalinar and alethkar would become sperate. Jasnah will simply not let him take any of her power... Not agressively... Just... Jasnah like.... Dalinar will now represent the Radiants, talking on their behalf, not the behalf of the kingdom, where alethkar's next action is depends on if kholinar gets taken back. The major factions in the coalition I can predict are azir's faction - opposing dalinar and the Radiants but still wanting the benefit of the world (probably the Makabaki kingdoms and azir in this one) And of course dalinar's faction, support of the Radiants, and of course wanting the benefit of the world. (Alethkar and thaylena, as one of them has a radiant at its head, who happens to be related to dalinar) It's hard to say where Jah keved will stand in all this... But I'm guessing somewhere in between the two
  4. Was just going through the coppermind recently, and something struck me regarding the names of the books for the Stormlight Archives. I know they are all in-world books, but what if there's more going on in there? Let's take a look at The Words of Radiance. It's the Lightweaver book (Light - Radiance), and the in-world WoR is an informational book containing lots of half-information on the KR, written 200 years after the Recreance. What do they end up doing? Mistaking the Parsh as Voidbringers because of incomplete information, remapping the Shattered plains to figure out where the Oathgate is without knowing all its purpose, and so on. Perhaps most importantly, it is also the book where we find out the truth about Oaths (the words of radiance) and what they are and how they fit into the magic system, through Shallan and Kaladin. And Dalinar formally swears in. The title then perfectly describes the book, and how it connects with the focus character. Take Oathbringer, for example. It's the Bondsmith book, and its Dalinar's book, and it's the story of why and how he became a Bondsmith, or a bringer of Oaths, so it fits that way. Symbolically, Dalinar has always been an Oathbringer. Under Gavilar, wherever he went, he brought the Oaths as an opposite of freedom. If Dalinar was coming for you, you either swore to be Highprince under Gavilar or ended up dying. By the time of the main story, he is Oathbringer because he brings widespread awareness and the knowledge of Oaths, and provides an open platform for people willing to swear the Oath of a Knight Radiant. Again, the title of the book directly describes the theme of the book, and how it connects with the focus character. What does this tell us about the Way of Kings being Kaladin's book? It's the Windrunner book, the Order associated with Jezrein, the King. It's named the Way of Kings. The context of the in-world Way of Kings is how Nohadon learnt to be a better king by taking the hard road and walking to Uruthiru. He argues he got to see the world in first person, and got to experience what it's like to actually be there, right alongside his people, on an equal footing with them. Kaladin has been through the bottom-most dregs of Alethi society, and still carries the brands on his forehead. He was born a dark eyes, who fought and earned his place as a light eyes, had this taken from him, and earned a real shardblade. One could argue he is going through that same ordeal, just a lot less literally and more symbolically. It is the Way of Kings to walk where those that follow them would walk, and understand what that walking is all about. And then there's this Death Rattle that's been bugging me for ages: "He must pick it up, the fallen title! The tower, the crown, and the spear!" Since there's only really one "spear" in SA so far, that's pretty much Kaladin. The Tower and The Crown is definitely Kholin. And last of all - Elhokar Kholin died right in front of him, and that's a major event in his journey. Technically, this could also refer to Kaladin saving Dalinar at the Battle of the Tower. But my suspicion is this foreshadows a moment when Kaladin picks up the Kholin banner in one hand, and Sylspear in another - it foreshadows the moment he chooses to accept the fallen title of a Kholin king and becomes King in his own right. Notice, Jasnah is a queen, so she can just be put in a position where she can't do that anymore. Or maybe they end up together. I don't know. Maybe the fallen title is Jezrien's. And maybe the spear doesn't refer to Kaladin at all, but to Oroden, or to someone else entirely. Again, I don't know, I'm just speculating. Kaladin doesn't have a last name, only Stormblessed - indicating he may be able to pick up the Kholin name. Kaladin Kholin does have a nice ring to it. The Stormblessed title itself could be foreshadowing - the current head of the Kholin branch is bonded to the Stormfather. Jezrien, the Windrunner patron's spot on the Heralds just opened up. My point being, what if Sanderson's pulling a Mistborn on us? What if Kaladin's end goal is to either take up the Kholin Banner and become king, or take up Jezrein's spot as a Herald? Maybe both? Maybe none. There's two more books to go... and he has two more Oaths to take. All I'm sure of is that big things are in store for him. P.S. - what did you guys think about that death rattle? Edit: reformatting and rewriting a bit.
  5. I finished Oathbringer last night, and few choice quotes sprang out at me while reading. With some recent threads as jumping off points, I decided that we need to fundamentally reassess how we view the nature of the Surges, Surgebinders, and their placement within the Double Eye of the Almighty. The ten Surges we are familiar with reflect fundamental forces of the universe. Khriss, writing in "The Rosharan System" (Arcanum Unbounded hardback, p. 535), states: My contention is that while we have mostly been shown the Surges being applied in the Physical Realm, they each have powers and applications that are unique to the Cognitive and Spiritual Realms, as well. There is precedent for this within the Cosmere, as each of the Allomantic and Feruchemical metals can be categorized according to its effects on the Physical, Cognitive, or Spiritual aspects of the user/target: Iron, Steel, Tin, and Pewter are Physical; Zinc, Brass, Copper, and Bronze are Cognitive; and Chromium, Nicrosil, Aluminum, and Duralumin are Spiritual. There is a fourth category that may overlap here, but which feels like an artifact of Scadrial's system being dependent on the number sixteen -- sixteen Shards with sixteen Intents, sixteen allomantic metals, etc. Dividing that number into four groups of four is nice and tidy, and makes numerological sense in a way that they don't on Roshar, where Three, Nine, and Ten (especially) are given precedence. But I digress. While speaking to Dalinar in OB, chapter 65, the Stormfather says the following: We have, at this point, seen multiple Physical uses of adhesion -- in WoK, Kaladin scales a chasm wall by adhering stones to the surface and using them as handholds; in OB, Dalinar similarly uses a spray of Stormlight against a wall to adhere a chair to its surface and climb into a ventilation shaft. We're familiar with this usage. What we have yet to see until this scene is this specific naming convention (Spiritual Adhesion), and the revelation of a new set of abilities that applies to a person's Spiritual aspect. I think the existence of “Spiritual Adhesion” indicates that what we’ve seen before is “Physical Adhesion,” and implies that we may also see “Cognitive Adhesion.” If each of these abilities is different, it may imply why we seem to see a degree of fluidity in how Orders who share Surges utilize those Surges: if Jasnah and Shallan both utilize Transformation, but Jasnah excels at Physical Transformation and Shallan at Spiritual Transformation, then their approach may be completely different (and may lead to the development of different resonances as well). What appears to be certain characters' penchants for particular facets of their abilities may not just be a quirk of that character, but may be a fundamental aspect of their Order as well. Below, I will list the three Realmatic variations of each Surge, as well as my best guess for how they function. Note that the following are merely some possible expressions of those powers, and not the only possible applications of the Surges in each realm. That is, Spiritual Adhesion has been depicted as being used to share language, but it could be possible to use Adhesion on the Spiritual plane for other, similar effects. Adhesion Physical: Stick two objects together Cognitive: Make lots of disparate people start to view themselves as a group? Whatever Dalinar did at Thaylenah to bring the buildings back together (but that might be Tension). Spiritual: Create a connection to another person’s Spirit, so that you can comprehend their language. Gravitation Physical: Basic and Reverse Lashings. Cognitive: Spiritual: Division Abrasion Physical: Change the strength of friction between two objects Cognitive: Spiritual: Transportation Progression Physical: accelerate the growth of plants Cognitive: heals a person’s body so that it matches their own Cognitive Ideal of themselves Spiritual: Illumination Physical: Create complex illusions, using a Memory as a base, and the manipulation of the electromagnetic field. Cognitive: Spiritual: Remotely view events happening around Roshar (Shallan sketches an image of Szeth’s assassination of the King of Jah Keved, an image depicting “...a lavish room with a thick, ornamented rug, swords on the walls. A long dining table, set with a half eaten meal. And a dead man in fine clothing, laying face-first on the floor, blood pooling around him.”) This is presumably where the “Watch” in Truthwatcher comes from as well. (Spiritual) Transformation Physical: Utilize Stormlight to transform the spren of an object into another object (Soulcasting) Cognitive: Manipulate the spren of an object and force it to appear in the Cognitive Realm (Manifesting) Spiritual: Transform a person by giving them aspects of their most idealized Spiritual form. (No name, but performed by Shallan multiple times in WoR). Transportation Cohesion Tension Physical: Cognitive: Whatever Dalinar did at Thaylenah to bring the buildings back together (but that might be Adhesion). Obviously there are a lot of blank spots in the list. Part of that is that we haven’t been granted a viewpoint from a representative of each Order using their own abilities. The other is that some of these abilities are probably mislabeled, or are just Resonances (as opposed to being a direct result of using a Surge). What do you think.
  6. The end of Oathbringer reminded me a lot of the climax of Infinity Blade: Redemption when I read it, and now that I think about it the similarities go even deeper than I originally thought. Raidriar and Taravangian are both kings with a "false god": for Raidriar it's himself and for Taravangian it's the Diagram Raidriar and Taravangian meet the main villain, who predates them by millenia and proves their "false god" to be flawed and inadequate Raidriar and Taravangian are both set up as wise, knowledgeable people but are basically treated like babies by the Worker/Odium, who predict and understand them with ease Raidriar and Taravangian both ponder the nature of rulership and authority throughout their arcs Raidriar and Taravangian are both presented with the choice of whether to follow the Big Bad, and both choose to live up to their idea of a king, although with drastically different results. What do you guys think? Are the similarities legitimate, and if so, were they intentional?