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  1. As we know, Fullborn are super-duper busted, but here's another few reasons to pile on top of the list If a normal gold Ferring needed to save health to recover from injuries, they'd need to spend a lot of time being sickly and weak in order to heal from only a few solid hits (Wayne was able to heal from about 4 bullet wounds after spending two weeks in bed feeling awful). A Compounder like Miles would have the option of instead of fueling his Feruchemy with his Allomancy, Burning gold to fill his Goldminds. This still takes time and a rare, valuable metal, however. And this is where a Fullborn's Compounding becomes even more busted; they can use duralumin Allomancy to refill their Metalminds in a flash, rather than needing to spend time metabolizing all their metal, tough they'd need practice to make the process reliable, I'm sure (WoB). Basically, if a Fullborn were to, say, run low on their physical speed stores in their Steelmind during battle, they could zip on over to a bag of steel flakes/beads they'd gathered earlier, swallow the metal (probably using A-Bendalloy to buy more time), and Burn it all at once while using A-duralumin to completely and instantly refill their depleted Steelmind. What's more, normally a Compounder needs to Burn an amount of metal comparable to the Feruchemical charge they want, based on the level of power their Allomancy has. And that's just the thing; a Fullborn could choose to use Feruchemical nicrosil to Store their Allomantic powers for a time, later Tapping while Compounding to use less metals to gain the same Feruchemical charge. Basically, picture this; Miles wants to get 1,000 hours' worth of health in his Goldminds, so he Compounds a whole bunch of expensive gold jewelry he's looted over the course of a day or two. Boom, massive health stores for combat. A Fullborn could instead choose to Store their gold Allomancy in a Nicrosilmind for free (nobody needs to burn gold), then burn a tiny flake of gold over 1 second while Tapping hours and hours of Storing 100% of their gold Allomancy. There is Feruchemical compression loss you'd have to account for, but this is a legitimate way for a Fullborn to Compound with incredibly efficient rates, using only a fraction of the metal a normal Compounder would need to achieve the same effect. There's also nicrosil Compounding itself, which may be useful to speed up the process of increasing your Allomantic power stores, which is yet another Compounding hack they have. And, if a Fullborn ever needed a truly massive burst of raw power, they could Tap hundreds of hours of Feruchemical nicrosil in a single moment while Burning duralumin and a whole stomach full of metal. Since the amount of Investiture you get from Burning metals is directly dependent of the strength of your Allomancy, this means that Tapping nicrosil multiplies your Allomantic output. Basically, they could rip apart an army (or small city, I'm sure) in a moment with a bunch of pewter and steel with a little duralumin and a full Nicrosilmind. Or, if the Fullborn needs a more sustained flow of power, they could Tap Compounded nicrosil and Feruchemical steel to speed up the Burn rate and efficiency of their metals, once again multiplying their power manyfold.
  2. Alright, so I've seen a bunch of "Mistborn vs Knight Radiant" and Jedi vs Knight Radiant, and because I haven't the time nor patience to read through all of those, I'm going to pose a question that's likely already been answered. Let's say that a bunch of the "strongest" investiture users across the Cosmere had a a fight. I'm not counting any Yolen natives cause all the ones we know of we don't know a lot about their magic and a lot of them are OP. So: Here we go. Representing Scadrial, it's the Fullborn, from Roshar the 5th Ideal Knight Radiant (Pick the Order you think is the best in a fight), The God King from Nalthis, let's say an Elantrian as good as Raoden, a Sand Master who can control, let's say, 30 threads. I'm not gonna count shades cause most of these guys can outrun or kill a shade with relative ease, and First of the Sun doesn't have a lot of physically manifested Investiture besides the mind-reading guys, who aren't human and I feel they can also be killed with relative ease, so we'll just go with the above. God-King, Fullborn, 5th Ideal Radiant of any Order, Sand Master with 30 Threads and Salitrification, Elantrian. And they're fighting in a place where Elantrian magic is strong and the Sand Master has enough Taldain Sand for years. Edit: Nightmaws and Deepstalkers as well as Shades are included
  3. Okay, so they don’t naturally have a charismatic personality or anything like that, but they do have a very, very powerful motivator for people to willingly follow them. They should be able to create unsealed metalminds for those who are exceptionally skilled and/or loyal to them. So if people in a society know that they will get magic powers if they follow their leader, and the only way to maintain that power (the metalminds will run out of charge eventually, after all) is to stay loyal and hone their skill with it, then the Fullborn should have a rather large retinue of willing followers.
  4. Of all the Cosmere's known magic users, I'm not really sure that anyone can compare to the fullborn (mistborn + full feruchemist) in terms of raw power. They can: 1. Get a nearly infinite supply of any feruchemical attribute that they want as long as they have the metals available, then tap them at pretty much any speed that they want. 2. Reverse compound somehow (probably feruchemical nicrocil at work here, but it has yet to be confirmed) to increase their allomantic powers to a ridiculous amount, pretty much as much as they want, similar to their feruchemical counterparts. 3. There isn't really a maximum limit to the amount of investiture that they can store, except maybe the amount of metalminds that they can carry, which is still a lot. It doesn't seem like fullborn have the traditional limitations that you'd expect to see on other metalborn, surgbinders, awakeners, or any other magic users really. How powerful are they, really, and what would it take to bring down a competent fullborn? (Mcguffins such as shards of Adonalsium or Dawn shards don't count, I'm referring to "normal" magic users)
  5. Am I the only one who thinks TLR or any Fullborn should be called a FullMetal All-Chemist ?
  6. So Atium removes all powers right ? So suppose I spiked a mistborn and used it on myself . Would I became a Mistborn with all 16 powers ?? What if I spiked Tlr ? Would I become Fullborn , all 32 abilities and compounding included ? Would Tlr survive the process ? If he does , would he still be Fullborn ? Or would he become a normie human ? Would he be ' worse than a drab ' ? Would a single spike accomplish all this ?
  7. So I have heard that tlr had atleast one son or daughter named Lutha ? So what happened to his wife or mistress and his child(Ren) ? Were they all killed during the first few centuries of turmoil ? If not, why didn't rashek create a dynasty ? Letting his son or daughter inherit and die in peace instead of being tortured by Ruin or u know head over to nalthis to gain the fifth heightening . Which begs the question , were his children fullborn or atleast mistborn or feruchemist or twinborn ? Could he have over the centuries have carried out a eugenics program with himself and his progeny , have taken or (and) made his children take mistborn or feruchemist mistresses or wives or husbands or misters . Eventually he might have had a fullborn kid. Hey wait a minute. He had the Lerasium , two beads of it. Couldn't he have had a normal feruchemist kid and then fed him the Lerasium. There could have easily been 3 lrs over the millennium and then the tlr at the time could have ascended again and gotten a few more nuggets of Lerasium which this time they wouldn't be forced to use as bribes to gain allies. So why didn't that happen ? Did Ruin somehow make sure all such attempts would fail ? Did tlr did not want to let go of power and had his kids murdered like chronos from Greek mythology , afraid they would usurp him ? What do u think happened ? Any WoBs ?
  8. In WoA , why didn't leras feed the larasium to sazed. A fullborn would have been an incredible help against ruin , especially since he wouldn't be dependent on atium compounding like tlr . Also couldn't the lerasium have been split so that elend could survive while Sazed became fullborn. I mean elend had to die anyway for Vin to be able to kill ati in the first place right. Could Sazed being depressed have led to him being useless , even with fullborn abilities ? What might have Happened if Sazed had ingested the lerasium ??
  9. As we know, if a person has the ability to use the same metal both allomantically and feruchemically, then they can compound that metal (i.e. burn feruchemical storages to multiply the ability stored in the metalmind). So then my question is, would a more powerful allomancer gain more out of compounding than a weaker one? So, would a natural twinborn compound their feruchemical storages by a lesser multiplier than a feruchemist who had burned lerasium for example. In short, does allomantic strength affect compounding efficiency? I welcome your input.
  10. How exactly did Rashek become as powerful as he did? Yes, his feruchemy was enhanced via compounding but that doesn't explain his immense strength as a mistborn. Nor was the fact that he became mistborn from lerasium because even Elend wasn't as strong as he. Was his power a result of a strong connection to preservation after ascending? If that's the case then why wasn't Vin uber strong after ascension? Or was he simply a savant in all metals, using feruchemy to heal the negative effects of his savantism? I welcome your input.
  11. Bands of mourning spoilers ^^
  12. Hi, I was just wondering how the power of Fullborns would scale with regards to Heralds. In particular, how would Kelsier or Spook (who are similarly powerful) match up against a Herald? Assume that both Fullborns have access to all 16 Metals (in unlimited quantities), but no God Metals, and that Herald has access to unlimited Stormlight and is one with offensive capabilities. Furthermore, how would The Lord Ruler have matched up against a Herald? All 10 Heralds? Thanks
  13. The more we learn about Three Metallic Arts, the more powers of TLR become broken. Let's break it up in a few steps, as I think we don't really appreciate the full power of a Fullborn. The Compounder First, we learned that not only he was an extremely powerful Mistborn whose power exceeds the power of Lerasiumborns by far, but we also learned that he's a Full Feruchemist who never runs out of the Feruchemical attributes. Infinite Feruchemy storages + extremely powerful Allomancy. The Savant Then we learned he was a savant in nearly all metals. Not really groundshaking revelation, but power is power. The Twinborn When we learned that certain powers form a synergy, like Crasher combo, which makes both Skimmer power and Coinshot power far more powerful than any of them would be on their own. If there are any other such combinations (like suspected Soothing/Rioting + Identity or maybe Connection), he has them. All of them. Now, there are also those so-called 'Twinborn effects'. Ars Arcanum notes that they may be not as noticeable as the effect of mixing Surges on Roshar, but they still are there. Fullborn has all 256 of them. I do not know what they are or even how useful or how powerful those may be, but nevertheless he has them. EDIT: Thanks to Yata we know that's not the case. The Soulbearer Then we got to the Bands Of Mourning and we learned what a Soulbearer can really do. Soulbearers can store their Innate Investiture and later tap them... Which means they can store their abilities. And later strenghten them. Forget multiple spikes, a Soulbearer Twinborn can just strenghten his Allomancy several times at ease! The Nicrosil Compounder Now, not only it's possible to strenghten abilities several times by just tapping nicrosil... No, a Fullborn can rusting COMPOUND IT. And TLR's base power level already was 'extremely powerful'... Now, we can suspect that he wasn't so powerful because he didn't have access to all of the metals, as they couldn't have been produced in Final Empire. The thing is, there is a WoB stating that TLR wasn't using duraluminium for his feats, but it seems unreasonable that he was using nicrosil Feruchemy (as it would be one of the hardest metals to obtain nad make). So, the power he has shown us was only his normal, base power? Oh, and he's a Sliver on top of all that. Anyway, we've got another Fullborn running around. While his Allomancy may be just of an ordinary Mistborn, the rest of the things I listed here matches as well. Oh, and Kelsier is a Sliver too. I believe he can do much more than what we have seen done with the Bands... If he Compounded enough nicrosil, he could be always at mistpoint. That's a lot of terrifying power. This is really immense, godlike power. I wonder where did he go?
  14. Like my last post on this board, this isn't really an original post so much as it is a request for clarification. A couple of times on the forum I have seen the term "Fullborn" used to denote... something. This name is either used for a Full Feruchemist or a person with both Mistborn and Full Feruchemist abilities. While I like the term, I am a bit hazy about what exactly it means, and how it originated. Is "Fullborn" an official word, or is simply a piece of fanon that has gained prominence? I would appreciate it if someone could give me a dictionary definition.
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