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  1. I was looking at a suggested book reading order to send to someone I'm indoctrinating into Sanderson, and it mentioned that you should read Elantris before Rhythm of War. What did I miss??? I don't remember anything of note related to Elantris from RoW.
  2. So we know that Elantris is called Elantris (Shocker, I know), and the sequel will likely be called Dakhor. So, I figure the 3rd book will also be the name of something relating to a Sellish magic system. Something like ChayShan or JinDo, since that is where the practitioners come from. Any other guesses?
  3. Exploring the various method through which soulstampers, Elantrians, etc could access investiture on other worlds So I was thinking specifically about how a world hopper from Sel could access investiture without a jar of Dor. My thoughts ran through the feruchemical properties of the known metals and stopped on Nicrosil. According to the official handbook for the Mistborn Adventure Game TTRPG, Nicrosil stores pure investiture and is used by feruchemists to enhance their other metalmind effects when tapped. However, using hemalurgy to create a Nicrosil ferring out of an Elantrian could potentially give them the ability to store and use investiture in/from their own nicrosil metalminds. How possible is this?
  4. So at the time of writing this I have read a good amount of the cosmere. I'm up to date on Stormlight, Mistborn, White Sand, Warbreaker, and Elantris, but I still don't know where most of the shards are. I've looked on the wiki and it shows that we know where most of the shards are, but I've only been able to identify 6 direct appearances. Preservation and Ruin appear in Mistborn era 1. Automation appears in era 2. Then Honor, Cultivation, and Odium appear in Stormlight. The only other times I can remember more shards being named was Sazed's notes in Stormlight. I haven't seen any shards mentioned in White Sand or Warbreaker at all, but somehow according to the wiki we know the shards of those planets already??? Sorry if this is a bit of a dumb question but I'm at a complete loss as to where the other 10 shards are hiding.
  5. So yeah , as we know the cognitive realm of sel is choked full of investiture from 2 shards. Now Brandon has said in a wob that if there is too much investiture in an area it can lead to temporal effects like slowed down or accelerated time. I propose that as a result time goes extremely slow on sel. So maybe Elantris 2 should occur around the same time as mistborn era 3 and elantris 3 at the same time as mistborn era 4 . That's my theory. Thank you.
  6. I was re-reading Elantris for the sixty-bajillianth time when I noticed that the god of Shu-Korath, Domi, is part of the name of the Shard Dominion. I've always thought that Jaddeth was a representation of Dominion, and that Domi was Devotion. But after seeing that Domi was part of Dominion, I think that maybe the Elantrians were made by Dominion, as they are powerful enough to rule over an entire world, and were able to gain dominion over Arelon and were going to try to invade other countries, until Fjordell stopped them, but was destroyed in the process.
  7. Are Elantrians cognitive shadows? Or are they just people supercharged with investiture? In that case, do they have enough investiture to become cognitive shadows if they are killed? I’ve read all the cosmere books but elantris was one of the first so it’s been a while haha
  8. Looking back we've known for a while that there's something odd about the Shardpool on Elantris, since it presumably doesn't just dump someone who uses it into the Dor plasma in the CR. Nor is it in of itself plasma and it doesn't restore power to an Elantrian who enters it. What exactly is filling that Shardpool?
  9. What makes someone an Elantrian is their connection to the Dor so couldn’t you theoretically store that connection into a metalmind? If you did this would your skin stop glowing and you can’t access the dor for as long as you’re storing? In addition, if you stored your connection into an unsealed metalmind could you then give that to someone else, and they can become an elantrian? finally what if you tap connection to the Dor when you’re already in elantrian would you be able to draw more investiture even though you can already draw an infinite amount of investiture?
  10. Disclaimer: I have no idea where to put this, so please benevolent mods, move this if necessary. SPOILER WARNING: Alright so, this theory contains the heaviest spoilers in the world for Stormlight Archive Rhythm of War, Warbreaker, Elantris, Tress of the Emerald Sea, and I might have to borrow from Mistborn Era 2 It also spoilers ALL of Avatar the last airbender and Legend of Korra. The world of Avatar almost perfectly fits into the cosmere, here me out. I'll be using cosmere words like Bond, Connection, Investiture, Spren, Shards, cognitive realm, Intent, and the like, so if you don't know any of those, read the cosmere books before reading on in this theory. I'll to capitalize those words in order to make them stand out. I will call the Avatar-World the Avatar-World in order to avoid confusion. --- Let's get started, first of all, of course there are not really fitting shards left over for this planet, but to put it simply, something similar to Roshar is going on. Spren-like splinters called Spirits inhabit the Cognitive Realm known as the Spirit-world of the planet Avatar-World, and two perpendicularities known as Spirit Portals in the North and South pole of the planet exist. This is a fact that points towards two Shards of Adonalsium having been shattered on that world. The Spirit World, Spirits, and the Perpendicularities Judging from the original humans having been in the Cognitive Realm first, they might've migrated over from another planet, before having been changed by Cosmereological Intent (see Pure Lakers on Roshar) to let the ever present but Mist-like (see Scadrial) invisible form of Investiture known as Chi, flow through their bodies. The Spren/spirits/splinters of those Shards known as the lion turtles could thus grant the humans a special form of Bond to allow them to use the power of an element. In the Avatar-World there must be two new types of Bonds: one that lion turtles use to grant the ability to use investiture to control and element, and one bond that Spirits use to possess a human. Bending and Investiture - an End-Positive System Forming a Connection to the power of the Splintered shards (see what happened on Sel), this Bond is not very similar to the Nahel Bond (Roshar & Spren) and a Luhel Bond (Lumar), but instead only requires an initial bond that unlcoks the power in a human and can then be passed on genetically. Investiture in the Avater-World in the physical realm is an invisible gas, or at least humans have evolved to not see it, and is ever-present, seeping into the humans where it is called Chi. The unlocking of bending and chi-gates might form cracks in the soul that are passed on genetically, seemingly even the more powerful Splinters or rather Cognitive Shadows can hold such powers, as evident by Raava and Vaatu. Bending itself is a way of Accessing Investiture, requiring intent and specific physical movements that look almost like a martial art. This is similar to Aons drawn by Elantrians using AonDor or the martial arts on Sel. The Avatar Both bonds were used by Raava and Wan to create the first avatar: A cognitive shadow that holds memories of all prior avatars, held together within a human body by the Spirit Raava. Whenever an Avatar dies, the memories are added to the cognitive shadow known as the Avatar, and the spirit Raava carries it on to a newborn human from another nation to use the possession Bond with. Similar to a Bondsmith, the Avatar can create and sever connection, such as completely taking someone's ability to bend, or temporarily elsecalling into the Spirit World (Cognitive Realm). Chi-Blocking Chi-blocking blocks spiritual pathways for the Soul which investiture would need to take. Healing Healing works well in the Avatar-World since due to the physical movements through which investiture is accessed, the humans of the Avatar-World have developed a stronger image of self and their cultures, even associating them directly with how they can use investiture. Savantism Savantism in bending might require something more than just a lot of investiture and using their power, but these are known as specialized bending types. --- Tell me what you think. Did I make any mistakes? Any way you can fix my mistakes and still make it fit?
  11. In Elantris every aon has the aon aon at least twice, this leads to the aons having symmetry. Once the chasm line is added to the starter aon(aon aon) should it be added to all the aon aons in the aon? In other words should each aon have multiple chasm lines?
  12. Alrighty, so I was reading through the theories section and had a thought: Since Soulstamps re-write a person's past Connections or "soul," would it be possible for a Forger to create a stamp that turns them into an Elantrian? I know there are a few implications of this, but could it be possible? If the Forger was making it for a Teo, for example, would the stamp writing be easier than, say, for a Dula? Or would it not matter, as the Soulstamp completely re-writes a person's past? And would the Shaod take the person, and become permanent? Or would they revert back to their normal human state? Dunno just thought this was an interesting idea
  13. From the album: Facepalm's Elantris Ort

    I was listening to the Elantris audiobook, heard this, and thought, "I'm gonna make a comic about this :D" I REALLY need to work on my side view drawings though
  14. I have an idea. Since hemalurgy can be used to steal Connection, could one use hemalurgy to steal an Elantrian’s Connection to Elantris, then give that Connection to another person? In addition, could one give said Connection to a Dakor monk, and how would Aon Dor interact with the monk?
  15. Alright, so with the Sorceress's/Riina's island, we see guys made out of gold who've probably been awakened. I don't know much 'bout that whole thing, so I'll stay away from talking about that. Instead, I'm gonna ask a question; how likely is it that these guys are the men of gold and red that are nearly in TLM. Could Riina be associated with Autonomy? Maybe Riina joins with Autonomy and helps Bavarian try to take over? I wonder if we'll meet Riina again in Dakhor (second Elantris) But back to what I was originally talking about: so there's a part where Hoid says that What do y'all think? Are they the men of gold and red or are they just an elantrian world hopper's metal lackeys?
  16. Good afternoon! I'm currently rereading my leatherbound Elantris, and I had two questions: 1) Is there a collection of changes made between each edition, like this post for Words of Radiance? I'm mostly curious how much was changed at the end when Raoden draws the line in the dirt to correct the Aon for the city. 2) Is anyone collecting a list of typos or errata for Elantris? I just found this error on page 314 of the second leatherbound edition: "Don't look so sour, Galladon," Raoden said with a laugh. "Aren't you Dulas supposed to be fond of garish clothing?" "That's the aristocracy-the citizens and republicans." I believe there should be a paragraph break between Raoden's dialoge and Galladon's.
  17. Devotion and Dominion are shards in the cognitive realm that manifest their power on Sel as the dor. Would Domi be the vessel of Devotion shard and would Jadeth be the vessel of Dominion? If Jadeth is the vessel of Dominion and is trapped in the cognitive realm would it be possible for the Wyrn to have the ability to communicate with him? Could the shards have merged and became Conviction or something? What does this have to do with the Kings Soul? Does the pool that kills Elantrians lead to the Cognitive realm allowing Elantrians to be able to access the cognitive realm allowing one of them to claim the shards? Will there be a final Brandon Sanderson Sel book where it is a battle over the cognitive realm with Jadeth vs Domi. What side would shai be on?
  18. The majority of the magic systems on the planet Sel rely on the Dor to function and can not be used on other planets in the cosmere, but Aons are seen being used on many other worlds. Is another source of power needed for them to function, or is there some other way that they function?
  19. Could you tattoo Aons that work onto someone? Like if you could figure out which Aon is a trigger or an off/on switch for other Aons, you might be able to tattoo an Aon Daa plus a few Aon Rao together on yours or someone else's hands, and so long as the tattooing was done by an Elantrian and you were in range of Elantris, you could shoot lasers out of your hand whenever you want! And it wouldn't just have to be lasers it could be anything! Like healing, Soulcasting, Lightweaving, anything you can imagine! AonDor powers without being an Elantrian! What do you think?
  20. So Shai is Moonlight. I get that. Makes relative sense. I’m sure Shai was an easy person to recruit into the Ghostbloods. However, for being hundreds of years old, she sure does not seem to be the most powerful forger of her time. From what she has said, she has three soul stamps on her. Two of which are universal stamps, which I am certain is quite difficult to pull off. The third is an essence stamp that makes her an Elantrian, which is also surely difficult to pull off. However. Three soul stamps? Really? Shai is certainly better than that. Is it a limitation of resources? What Shai has made is certainly impressive, but probably something an average forger could pull off in 100 years of living. I think it’s safe to assume Shai’s been kicking for longer than that, and again, she is THE BEST forger of her lifetime. If this is the Shai we know, I would expect a whole briefcase of powerful soul stamps, including more than just one essence mark. I understand that she only has so much access to her abilities, since there’s only so much Dor that she has access to. However, even with limited resources, more options are always welcome. I find it slightly hard to believe that Shai wouldn’t have proper materials to make more, as the Ghostbloods are at this point quite far reaching and could certainly procure some. Especially since, as far as I’m aware, Shai is quite high up in their ranks. So what’s up? Why does Shai, the most powerful forger or her time, who has presumably been alive for hundreds of years, honing her skills, pals with Kelsier himself, have only three soul stamps?
  21. Elantrians can create a variety of items through use of AonDor. My question is, can they create Gemstones? the more perfect the better.
  22. In Hrathen’s letter from Wyrn at the beginning of Elantris, Wyrn mentions that “the time for my ascension nears, my son”. Has Autonomy (or potentially another shard) been meddling on Sel?
  23. So I was listing to the Overlady reads and they mention a box the Set used to communicate, assuming it was some kind of radio But then I thought, a metal box that transmits voices? We've seen that before, specifically on Roshar, used by the ghostbloods to communicate with Shallan I checked it out (end of chapter 16 and beginning of chapter 17) and sure eanough a mid sized cube that produces voices! I'm not sure what to do with this information nesiseserly but it implies to me some connection between the set and the ghostbloods and perhaps the source of there knowledge of hemalurgy, given Thaidakars nature XD That's basically it, I leave it to you arcanists to make sense of this information and any hints it might bring or tell me its just a radio Either way, please let me know if I'm onto something or not.
  24. So I know this question has probably been asked many, many times, but! We know that Hoid is a being that yeets around the Cosmere and such, but what about the one from the end of Elantris? Was he the original Hoid, and he got really powerful, trained new Hoid, then died? Or was he the new Hoid the entire time, and just visited Elantris in the diguise of a beggar? Thanks folks!
  25. I was thinking last night about the significance of broken oaths and damaged bonds on Roshar, and how Adolin has helped with some of those on the back end. His relationship with Maya is the most obvious example, but I also think that his relationship with Gallant is similar. Dalinar's modes of action no longer have much use for a courageous Ryshadium and so Gallant ended up kind of abandoned in a paddock at Urithiru. Adolin recognized this and came to spend time with him, which I imagine was good for Gallant, and ultimately Gallant even allowed Adolin to ride him (something Ryshadium essentially never allow for anyone but their chosen rider). I think that this was underplayed in Rhythm of War. I don't think that Gallant was damaged in the same way as Maya, nor to the same degree. But we now have two examples of Adolin helping rare, strong-bonding beings not through the formal commitments those beings normally make but instead by dedicating himself, his time, energy, and compassion to them. And in turn he's getting things from them that, we've been told, simply don't happen-- a deadeye who can think, act, and speak, as well as a Ryshadium's respect and service (or at least assistance). In Cosmere terms these things really make me think of Devotion, though I know we don't have a lot of information on how she behaved before she was Splintered. Adolin is a devoted person: to his family, his friends, his duties, his swordsmanship, and probably other things as well. I don't think that Adolin is going to take up the Shard of Devotion, if only because that's already getting too common in the books and typically fails to resolve much. I doubt that very many long-running, inter-book plotlines are going to converge on that same outcome. And I don't want to get ahead of myself with specific predictions on matters about which we still lack basically all detail. But given that Devotion's Splintering (along with Dominion's) was reportedly an unusual type, and wound up with Devotion being crammed into the cognitive realm and its Vessel killed, I see some parallels. Radiant spren becoming deadeyes was (theoretically, once) irreparable, and yet Adolin has upended that through a method totally different than anything Honor might have promoted. Maybe something else broadly thought to be impossible, even for Shards, is in the works. The Splintering of Shards is going to be addressed at some point in future books, and what Adolin has been accomplishing has already started to rock Roshar. I think that his actions' significance will continue to be impressive, surprising, and important, and that his characterological alignment with Devotion, conceptually, is ultimately going to matter for that too. Does anyone here have any other thoughts, evidence, critiques, or anything else for discussion around the topic?
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