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Not sure where we landed last week after the Discord conversation on categories, other than that Chaos wants to sit down and think through everything eventually. But I wanted to put a few thoughts/opinions of mine out there. They might be based on misunderstanding of the category system, so if that's the case just tell me why I'm wrong or ignore me. But anyways... I think there were 3 high level content categories involved in the discussion we had: Characters, Lifeforms, and Magic. The main controversial subcategory we discussed was Magical entities, though it went beyond that. Anyways, I would propose the following three subcategories: Magic users: a character who actively uses magic. This is a subcategory of Character. I say "actively uses" to rule out cases with innate Investiture and Nalthian Breath. Innate Investiture is too mundane to make you a "magic user", and I think those with Breath shouldn't be counted unless they're performing Awakening or using Heightening perks (i.e. collecting Breaths). This does generally include individual Aimians and Listeners, I think, as they're making active use of their magical nature. But their species would not be a subcategory in the same way that Allomancers is a subcategory of Magic users. Magical lifeforms: a living (biological) non-character or species which uses magic or exists because of magic This is a subcategory of Lifeforms. I mean "living" in a biological/scientific sense. It includes any non-character plants or animals which use magic (Ryshadium, chasmfiends, aviar) as well as whole species whose biology involves magic (Koloss, Kandra, Returned, both Aimian types...) Magical entities: a non-living (i.e. non-biological) entity or type of entity (character or otherwise) which uses magic or exists because of magic This is a subcategory of Magic. I mean "non-living" in a biological/scientific sense. It can include characters (Syl) as well as non-characters (like a skeltal). This is where you'll find Splinters and other truely magical phenomena. Note that the Lifeless would also fit in this category- while they are made of humans, they are very much non-living. A few other random thoughts: We could probably use a Cognitive shadows category. Probably best to make it a subcategory of Cosmere, because they could arguably belong to any of the three categories above. Probably could also use a Hemalurgic constructs category? Also in Cosmere? Or my Magical lifeforms category. I noticed a lot of "magic systems" are included in both Magic and Magic systems, which seems redundant. Aren't Greatshells and Ryshadium oddly specific categories to be placed directly under Lifeforms? I haven't made it out of the cosmere yet, but I THINK these ideas would work with other universes.