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  1. could somebody explain how cadmium and bendalloy to me please because if I'm not mistaken then cadmium slows time in an area or "bubble" and bendalloy does the opposite. what are potential uses of this. i don't understand it. its not like allomancers are immune to their own effects. i cant understand potential applications for the metals it just seems inconvenient. please could you provide examples in the comments.
  2. So, the Coppermind page for feruchemical cadmium seems to imply that cadmium stores oxygen from the blood, which can then be put back into it later. What I'm wondering is, if you were to store cadmium, and then tap it later, while tapping would you be able to do something like, say, talk constantly without taking breaths? Because that's dealing with physical air coming out of your lungs and through your vocal cords, not the oxygenation of your blood.
  3. Rereading Alloy of Law, and a thought struck me, gear powered watches would be completely messed up by either of the temporal metals. If, say Wayne, was to burn Bendalloy to create a speed bubble around him, and watches inside would also be sped up, coming out of the bubble ahead of everyone else's. A similar thing would happen with Cadmium, the watches outside of the bubble would be ticking much faster than those inside, but they would be standard time, leaving the watch inside behind.
  4. Thinking of practical uses of Scadrial investiture and while watching tv led to a thought and link it if it’s been discussed, but if one wanted to travel to deep space with little to no resources and not have to wait couldn’t they burn cadmium and become onboard life support during space travel?
  5. Savantism takes years to develop in most cases however cadmium would take stake substantially longer due to the time compression. In our world cadmium was discovered in 1817 and industrial scale production began in the 1930s-1940s. It's production requires electricity and as such small scale production could only have began recently, further evidenced by it's high cost. Coming up with a number that seems reasonable we can say cadmium production began 20 years ago. So if some rich cadmium misting decided to go to the future 20 years ago and burned non-stop excluding sleep breaks would they have become a cadmium savant yet? Sadly it seems unlikely we'll never see a cadmium savant.
  6. So one thing I've been thinking about recently is whether it would be possible to refine cadmium and bendalloy using Final Empire levels of technology. Chromium wouldn't be possible-- apparently it requires an electric arc furnace to extract pure chromium from the ore-- which means nicrosil would also be impossible. But cadmium is usually found as a byproduct of zinc refining, which the FE obviously must have had. And bendalloy (Wood's metal in our world) is an alloy of cadmium and several very common metals: lead, tin and bismuth. Bismuth was known as early as the late-1600s, leading me to believe that the slightly-more-advanced-than-expected metallurgy of the FE could have known about and refined it. Knowledge of these metals would almost certainly be suppressed by TLR and the Steel Ministry, and the fear of heavy metal poisoning through recklessly experimenting with different percentages would have discouraged anyone but an extremely eccentric (and wealthy) Mistborn with an absolute ton of aluminum from messing with it. But I think it might have at least been possible to produce back then. Am I missing something?
  7. If the Lord ruler was proficient in all 16 metals and forced Vin to burn Aluminum before she was brought to him (showing that he had knowledge of more than the basic eight metals) why didn't he use Cadmium or Cerrobend at any point in the book? He could have used it to kill her without much effort.
  8. So we all know that Mistborn Era 4 Scadrial has become a space faring civilisation, and that in Sixth of the Dusk, there is at least one civilisation that has reached this status. Given the sheer versatility of the investiture systems, it is pretty likely that the aliens are in fact Scadrians. That opens up so many questions, but I would like to focus on one specifically: how did they do it? As mentioned before, it is Scadrials magic systems which probably made them the first space civilisation. I believe that it is a combination of Cadmium, Bendalloy, Ettmetal, and Medallions which have allowed them to enter the space frontier. Bendalloy makes speed bubbles, so if you attach one to a spaceship, the math on the wiki page says you would compress 2 minutes of the ship moving at full speed into 15 seconds of actual travel time. The problem with this is that people inside the spaceship will still age, as it is time which is being manipulated. That means that while the spaceship would travel FTL relative to the cosmere, inside the bubble, people would age normally. Essentially, it unpractical space travel and very limited. BUT, if you also create a smaller cadmium bubble around the structure of the ship ( a C.bubble within a B.bubble), we know from this WoB that the effects will cancel out: This means that the crew wouldn't be trapped inside the speed speed bubble, and so will experience time normally. However, to make this technology even more efficient, the Scadrians would put up ANOTHER cadmium bubble within the first cadmium bubble (C.bubble within C.bubble within B.bubble). This would allow them to travel FTL and not feel the time effects at all! Essentially, they would be able to get anywhere in no time. I do believe that Ettmetal will be used in the propulsion of the spacecraft, probably through some nuclear propulsion technology. This is what would take the spacecraft to such high speeds. I don't really know how to explain all the other uses, so here's @hwiles comment pulled from here: As for the medallions their benefits are endless: from breath, to healing, to warmth, to weight (which will probably be useful combined with pushing and pulling in space) and the various other technological impacts. NOTE: I just found out from the coppermind that time bubbles in fact compound if used together. This is crazy, and makes FTL travel much, much easier. A normal speed bubble speeds up time by a factor of 8. Compound this with 10 bubbles and you would be travelling insanely fast. WoB is unclear to me, not sure if will double (8x2) or multiply (8x8). We have no information on Cadmiums factor of change, but we can assume that it will be the same as they cancel, and that it'll also compound. Basically, you can use primer cubes each powered by Bendalloy and Cadmium, structured in specific layers. All the Bendalloy bubbles would need to be outside, and you would need about double the amount of Cadmium bubbles to counteract the Bendalloy bubbles and still create their own time-slowing bubbles. What do you guys think? Any other technology which would make FTL travel feasible or easier for Scadrians? (This is my first theory, so there might be gaps in knowledge. Feel free to point them out).
  9. Time in the Cosmere does not seem like something that can be warped. For example, we don't have any time travel magic so far, and even shards that can see into the future only see possibilities. Then all of a sudden, in Mistborn era 2, something happened that allowed time to speed up and slow down. This is a really big deal! Bendalloy, which speeds up time, essentially allows a person to go into the future at a very slow pace! This is crazy! So I have a theory. I don't think the time is actually being altered. It's the cognitive aspect that is altered. The person's perception of time changes, not time itself. They age more slowly/quickly inside the bubble because their body itself doesn't think that it's aging. Time itself stays the same. Now, this seems kind of like a moot point to argue, since either way it looks like the same to the people both in and out of the bubble. However, this is actually a pretty big issue since if it's true, it proves that time in the Cosmere is immutable and can't be altered. Otherwise we would have to look at time as something that could be warped by investiture, and that would be very confusing. Ideas?
  10. Is it possible that Marasi could make a Cadmium bubble last long enough that she ends up in the third era mistborn novels? I'm not sure why this would happen, maybe she gets stuck in one on accident, or maybe she becomes aware of something important happening a few centuries in the future, but can anybody confirm or deny if this is possible?
  11. Say you have a pulser misting that has no attachments to the world but is very educated. He takes a large amount of Cadmium and makes a time bubble. He holds this bubble for, "theoretically," 100 years in everyone else's time. When he comes out he tells everyone about his history. Is this possible and plausible?
  12. This is going to be a bit dense so be warned but I believe there may possibly be a very powerful application of bendalloy and even cadmium in combat for a mistborn that has not yet been explored. Pulsers and Sliders have the powerful ability to dilate time by burning there respective metals. We are talking time dilation to massive degrees. However there have been limitations shown thus far that prevent these abilities from being used practically in combat, these few limitations being: The user is affected by there own ability, for Pulsers this means that their time is slower like everyone elses The user cannot leave the bubble, preventing them from throwing down a cadmium (slow mo) bubble as a trap for example Any objects that come into contact with the "membrane" of the bubble is affected in adverse ways (usually disorienting people and refracting the trajectory of projectiles), preventing those within the bubble to interact with those outside and vice versa The third point is described in the mistborn adventure game as: It can assumed that this current is random and constantly changing based on the unpredictable ways in which objects are cast askew With that in mind, this third point may be exploitable. So far we have only seen how physical objects interact with the membrane, but what if the thing passing through a membrane is more of a force, an allomantic force to be more specific? For example what if a mistborn within a bendalloy bubble tried to pull on a metal outside of their cast bubble. Mistborns can only pull metal so if the membrane was to interfere with the force it is possible that the mistborn would be pulling something that is not metallic, since that is not possible I have absolutely no clue what could happen if it is affected by the membranes "current" On the other hand if this theory is correct and that only physical objects are affected by the membranes "current" then the allomantic force being acted upon the metal outside of the bubble could be increased exponentially! To put numbers to it, say for instance a mistborn cast a bendalloy bubble that dilated time by a factor of 10. This means he/she is experience 10x more time than those outside the bubble, every 10 seconds to him/her is one second to those outside. If the mistborn is able to enact say 100 newtons of pulling force per second on a metal, then this would translate to 100 newtons per 0.1 seconds on a metal outside of the bendalloy bubble (as their time is much faster and he/she can apply 10 seconds worth of force from within the bubble per one second of time outside of the bubble) This would mean that the allomancer in question could theoretically apply 10x as much force to the object per second as they were able to before! With this in mind this is not free power, the allomancer in question is burning metal at 10x the theoretical rate to do so, burning metal for 10 seconds for every one second of time experienced outside of the bubble The applications for this would be mind boggling, imagine if you will a coinshot within a bendalloy bubble, pushing on an object outside! And we thought crashers could do some serious damage! The same effect could be theoretically achieved by an outsider trying to influence metals inside of a cadmium bubble. Whether you agree or disagree all thoughts are welcome (as all are part of the fundamental process of the scientific method), I hope you enjoyed the theory, and I can't wait to hear your opinions!
  13. <p>Sorry if this has been asked before, I have been meaning to know this since the first time I read alloy of law. <br /> Consider someone who burns cadmium say Marasi. If she has sufficiently large amounts of cadmium, and if she keeps burning it continuously she could form a bubble in which the time runs very slowly and the time out of the bubble runs fast. With proper supplies she could stay inside the bubble for days and come out to see years passed.<br /> <br /> <em>Isn't this similar to what </em><em>hoid</em><em> is doing? </em><br /> <br /> Heck Marasi can potentially live thousands of subjective years while living only normal lifespan inside the bubble. Even if she doesn't do that, even if we consider her burning the metal at the same rate as other allomancers, she would live for a longer time than normal people because her body lived a "smaller" time than others.<br /> <br /> Now consider someone burning bend alloy, say like wayne. They are the exact opposite of marasi. He can live for a hundred years inside a bubble to come out and see that only few days have passed. Even for a normal usage of the metals, he would live for a particularly lesser amount of time than what others can, because his body aged "longer" than others for the same outside time for all the time he spends in speed bubbles.<br /> <br /> <strong>Cadmium is more useful than </strong><strong>Marasi</strong><strong> gives it credit for. Consider how much useful it can be for biologists working on evolution, astronomers studying star cycles etc.!!</strong> <br /> <br /> and you can potentially rule out a player from a chase or the events going on if you just sneak in a cadmium burner and flare the metal around the important opponent - say army general. Even if you flare the metal for few seconds, you potentially leave him useless for hours! <br /> <br /> Consider a seige. If you have enough cadmium burners and if you bring all your poulace and your resources into one spot and make a huge time bubble around them and spend a few weeks inside it, months will have passed outside but you are no where near the end of your food or resources. It can change the face of seiges and war fare!<br /> <br /> Also, how will be savant of cadmium or bendalloy be?</p>
  14. We know Spook went into retirement. We know he discovered Cadmium and he had duralumin. He could very easily be alive and well in a speed bubble somewhere.
  15. First time starting a topic here, so be gentle please. This is a theory about a possible application for a Pulser's slow-bubbles. What startes me thinking on it was the following quote about speed-bubbles: Specifically the bit about punching out of a speed-bubble stealing your momentum. The normal formula for that is "momentum (p) equals mass (m) times distance(d) divided by time(t)" -> p=(m*d)/t From a Slider's perspective what happens outside of the bubble happens (let's say) 10 times faster, so his momentum when punching from inside to outside would be p=(m*d) /(10*t), 10 times less than normal. If we turn that around for a Pulser it becomes p=(m*d) /(t/10), resulting in 10 times more momentum than if no time-bubbles were involved. If you expand that to kinetic energy, which is equal to the momentum squared, divided by twice the mass, a Pulser punching out of their slow-bubble will be moving really slow, but they would be able to transfer 100 times the kinetic energy of a regular punch. Now that could have a lot of uses in demolition, or maybe mining or quarrying, but to make the example interesting, I made my Pulser a criminal. To avoid breaking the poor Pulser thief's hand, let's give him a sledgehammer. Now he managed to get into the bank itself, and is standing in front of the really heavy aluminum-covered steel vault door. He raises his slow-bubble so that it is close to the door, but not touching, and he takes a swing through the boundary with his sledgehammer. Because he's experienced with cadmium, he can stretch time to 20 times slower than normal, so the hammer that could normally knock over a small part of a thin brick wall is suddenly 400 times more powerful, and knocks that door clean off it's hinges. (And since swinging a hammer doesn't really take longer than 5 or 6 seconds it's done in about 2 minutes outside time.) I'd like to say I'm sure this is what happens, but it is of course also possible that the filthy allomancer scofflaw gets catapulted backwards into a wall by his own swing and dies from horrifying blunt force trauma. What are your thoughts?
  16. First off, let's assume that Steelrunners automatically speed their minds up as well as their body, otherwise they would be constantly crashing into things. Now let's take a Steelrunner/Pulser Twinborn. (Feruchemical!Steel, Allomantic!Cadmium.) The Twinborn pops up a Cadmium bubble, slowing down everyone around her, but then taps speed, returning herself to normal speed when compared to people outside the bubble. You can now communicate with people outside the bubble, while everyone around you is frozen. Good for lots of things, such as defusing bombs, searching a person, getting outside help, and so on. Why do I bring this up? Because Marasi is a Pulser, and there is a Feruchemical!Steel Spike floating about. I'd bet that somehow, she ends up with it.
  17. Hypothetical scenario time! Wax, Wayne and Marasi are standing in a room. Wax Pushes a coin outwards, and then, simultaneously, Marasi creates a cadmium-bubble the size of the room and Wayne creates a bendalloy-bubble around the three of them, leaving them standing in regular time while the rest of the room, including the coin, which is now moving quite slowly, is in slow-time. Wax then moves around a little and Pushes on the coin from a different angle. How does the Push affect the coin? Okay, I just realized I made this sound like a textbook question, but I genuinely want to know if we know, if that makes sense. Does the Push 'slow down', and act like it normally would, but in slow-mo. Or would it work differently?