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  1. Are the names of Wax's parents mentioned? We know that he is a descendant of Breeze from his father's line. Could he be a descendent of Demoux and Aslydin through his mother's line?
  2. “What they do not realize—and what you must realize—is that manipulating others is something that all people do. In fact, manipulation is at the core of our social interaction.” -Lord Breeze Ladrian. Ah, Breeze, you wonderful manipulator. Obviously the best in the Mistborn series. Except for, you know, Kelsier, who riled up the population of an entire city into rebellion. And, maybe the Lord Ruler who managed to beat the skaa down in the first place and control the world for a thousand years through the nobility. Also, the First Citizen, who controlled a city by being a dictator. Elend should probably be somewhere above you as well, you know, having created a stable political system (for an entire year!) that had classes formerly attempting to kill each other getting along. And, um, Allrianne Cett, for obvious reasons. (Maybe Straff? Nah, he's just a run-of-the-mill warlord.) You can probably see where I’m going with this. Breeze isn’t a good manipulator. He is, at best, a mediocre one who is bolstered to ‘passable’ by being an expert with playing with emotions. Which, by the way, is cheating and I say ‘passable’ comparing him to non-magical manipulators, like, say, politicians. Breeze’s claim to fame is being able to convince a dozen men of a hundred to rebel, and while that’s all and good (earning several thousand troops over the course of a year), he’s still pretty bad. I’ll explain why, but first, I’ll take out two counterpoints. Counterpoint 1: The Soothing Stations. Yes, there were Soothing stations. But, that didn’t stop Kelsier, and Breeze has emotional alomancy himself to level the playing field. Remember, even though Breeze can only Soothe, he himself claims that you can achieve the same effects by both Pushing and Pulling. Meaning, Breeze at that point is only on his own talents, and he’s mediocre at best. (And if he’s wrong about Soothing being able to work as well as Rioting, that’s a strike against him.) Counterpoint 2: Breeze doesn’t use dark manipulation. (Because there’s nothing morally wrong with adjusting emotions, whatsoever.) Yes, Breeze doesn’t use threat, for the most part, or anything more questionable, and he considers emotional alomancy no different from a set of powerful teeth (false!) or a charismatic personality (which he doesn’t have). Yes, I’ll give Breeze half a morality point for that. Half a morality point doesn’t make him a good manipulator, though. So, why do I say Breeze isn’t a good manipulator? Because Breeze uses the equivalent of whacking nails to get people to agree with him. He tells people to do things, and expects them to do it. Like with Spook, for example. Or, he’ll subtly nudge you to the point where you agree with him. Now, is this manipulation? Yes. It achieves it goals. But it’s not good manipulation. Because, it doesn’t last and isn’t flexible. Why do you think people like Bilg happened? Because of Breeze’s incompetence. So, what’s real manipulation? Real manipulation isn’t changing people’s emotions, or riling them up, or playing mental games until they give up and do what you want (cough Ham cough). Real manipulation is changing the way people think. This is achieved through behavior reinforcement, false information, propaganda. Someone’s who is a capable manipulator will change how you think and view things. This can be done by sparking emotions. This can be done through the spread of information. Or, through social interactions. Painting yourself in a different light. Breeze doesn’t do these things at all. Kelsier does a lot of them, but Breeze does nearly none, and he’s scared of his power, to an extent, which could be why he doesn’t do that. Why post this? Two reasons. One, because I don’t think Breeze is that good of a manipulator, and I want to hear opinions. Two, because I thought about this, realized it brought up points on manipulation that everyone should know, and decided that would kill two birds with one coin. So, read through this and tell me what you think. Please, disagree. And, secretly wonder if I'm attempting to manipulate you to do so. Or, actually I'm trying to get you to not argue. Heh.
  3. Since Breeze was a noble, do you guys think Kell would have attacked/killed/banished/harmed him in some way if he knew?
  4. Hi guys. I'm new here. Made an account just so I could hear your thoughts on this. Contains spoilers for Mistborn 2 and 3. I'm rereading the first 3 Mistborn books. At Hero of Ages now. What really bothered me the first time and bothers me again this time, is that Breeze seems fine in HoA. After his comatose state in WoA I expected a lasting effect. He saw his friend being ripped apart in front of him - and worse, the friend died saving him. He's a sensitive character. Why does he not suffer from some sort of PTSD? I see he overcompensates a bit in HoA, he laughs a little too hard and so on. But I expected more. Maybe trembling, or overeating, or jumping at loud noises, or becoming sullen when Koloss are around. Maybe he could be quiter than usual, but return to his old self when his girlfriend is around. Something like that. I loved Sazed's crisis and related to it on a very personal level. I wish Breeze had a similar change, not as bad, but a bit clearer. Anyone else feel this way? Do you suppose Mr. Sanderson had enough to focus on with everything else going on, that another character couldn't go through a crisis? Thanks PS. As I'm working through the series again I'm just amazed by the level of detail, all the little hints and foreshadowing. Sanderson's a genius.
  5. Since Breeze is a nobleman, why would he decide to rebel and fight against them? Any ideas?