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Okay, now I want to mention that I’m pretty sure that the Unsealed Metalmind that granted all powers that we see in The Bands of Mourning were created by Kelsier, acting as the Sovereign, not the Lord Ruler. However, that’s not to say that the Metalminds that the Lord Ruler possessed weren’t Unsealed either. In The Bands of Mourning, the characters questioned why the Lord Ruler would have wanted to turn his bracers into Unsealed Metalminds, as that could have given someone else his powers. However, he could have done this because he feared getting Hemalurgically spiked. If his bracers really were Unsealed Metalminds, then even if he had his Feruchemical gold stolen away Hemalurgically, he could have tapped the Unsealed Metalminds to regain the power (of course he could probably have just Allomantically burned a goldmind that he’d already filled, but still). Additionally, he may have been okay with someone else gaining his power if he were to perish. We see that he did try to prepare humanity for Ruin, even if he died, so I don’t think it’s that far-fetched an idea to think that he wanted to give one last bit of an edge to whoever would have survived his death. Plus, no one even knew about Unsealed Metalminds at the time, and you can’t tap them without knowing that you can tap them first. I certainly could be wrong, and Rashek very likely didn’t make Unsealed Metalminds, but slight as it is, I think that there is still a possibility.

So, are there 16 normal metals, atium + 16 atium alloys, lerasium + 16 lerasium alloys and harmonium + 16 harmonium alloys? (=67 metals for allomancy) Your opinion?

I had a thought about the medallions: If the technology to make them becomes even somewhat commercialized, then it opens up a whole new market. You could sell your abilities, for example. You know how the Aluminum and Duralumin burners are pretty much useless? Sell their power to Mistings, and they don't have to worry about getting poisoning from pewter, bendalloy, cadmium, etc. Any other uses you can think of for Feruchemy and Allomancy? Storing attributes in prison metal so that Allomancy won't have as much of an effect, for example.

The medallions the Southern Scadrians possess temporarily grant Metalborn powers. If someone swallowed a blank Nicrosil metalmind with Allomantic nicrosil in it, would they be able to keep the power? And would the power be stronger, having been Compounded? This makes sense to me, but this technique should let all Southern Scadrians have the powers without the medallions. So, why don't they?

Hello there! I have a question you may be able to help with. During the conversation between Wax and Harmony in Chapter 28, Harmony makes a remark about Bleeder's spike: "Would you have let her live on, a slave in her mind? Corrupted by that cursed spike that would forever leave her scarred, even if replaced?" (pg. 394, emphasis added) I suppose my question is this: we know that the effect god-metal Atium, Ruin's own metal, works better since it's his magic system, but what happens when you use a different god metal as a part of your magic system? We don't know what Lerasium or Trellium (no idea what to call it, although it seems connected to connect it to Trell as the book does just that) do when used Hemalurgically, except the Trellium will apparently hurt a Kandra beyond repair to use. What's going on here?

There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding how the medallions were created, so I've decided to make a single thread for discussing the discreet steps for making a medallion. Feel free to correct me if I have something grossly wrong. I am assuming for these purposes that storing investure in a Nicrosilmind stores "hours of metallic-art ability." So you store F.Brass in a Nicrosilmind for two hours, and another person can tap it to have the abilities of a brass Ferring for two hours. An unkeyed metalmind refers to one that was created while storing identity, so that anyone (with access to the correct powers, naturally or by tapping Nicrosil) can use it. I am also assuming that as long as the first person to begin filling a metalmind was storing identity at the time, then the metalmind can be filled or tapped at will without keying it accidentally. 1) The Sovereign (Spike-eye man) visits the south. He is a fullborn and carries the bands of mourning. He creates two unkeyed Nicrosilminds containing F.Nicrosil, and one with A.Nicrosil. 2) He fills one F.Nicrosilmind with some investure, then burns it to compound and fill the other two with the excess investure. 3) He creates an unkeyed Nicrosilmind containing F.Aluminum. 4) He now has three Nicrosilminds containing F.Nicrosil, A.Nicrosil, and F.Aluminum. He puts these together as a medallion along with some aluminum metal. This makes a medallion that anybody can access and use to create new unkeyed Nicrosilminds containing any of those three powers. They can also Compound to refill their Nicrosilminds, as they are not naturally a Feruchemist and therefore would not be able to store investure. 5) Using this medallion along with an unkeyed Nicrosilmind containing another power, one can create more medallions. This would be how they produce medallions with Nicrosilminds granting F.nicrosil and F.brass, for example. Compounding refills the Nicrosilminds and makes the practice sustainable, given that they have enough Nicrosil to burn for compounding. That's it. FireParents would be people who use a medallion with F.Aluminum, F.Brass and A.Brass for compounding heat. After the original set of medallions were created, it would be easy for anyone with access to Nicrosil to create more. The only hole in this process is that one step requires you to have a medallion with four powers (F.Aluminum, F.Nicrosil, A.Nicrosil, and a fourth power of your choosing) which Alliki says he's never seen. It's possible that medallions that were so important to their society's survival would be kept locked away and only allowed to be used by tribe leaders and such. Thoughts? See any other major holes in this process?