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  1. I was reading through Elantris' Ars Arcanum and reading through the list of Aons and noticed some of their meanings that had very direct correlations with specific shards. So, I decided to see if I could find corresponding aons with each shard. I failed. But, I did find some interesting connections that I figured I'd share so I don't feel I wasted half an hour. To be clear, I don't think this actually means anything, it's just something I found interesting. Devotion: There aren't any Aons that specifically mean "devotion", but there is Aon Seo which means Loyalty / Service, which is close. Dominion: There aren't any Aons that mean "dominion" or any synonyms. But, some Aons that are correlated with dominion are: Dao (stability, security), Eda (superior, lofty), and Ope (nation). Preservation: The closest Aon to preservation would probably be Aon Edo, which means Protection / Safety. Ruin: The closest Aon to ruin that I could find is Aon Sheo, which means Death and is a rather tentative connection. I also want to mention the obligatory Aon Ati namesake connection. Odium: There aren't any Aons along the lines of Odium / Hatred. There are Aons such as Teo (royal, majestic), Rii (wealth, affluence), and Eda (superior, lofty), that sort of correlate to personality traits of Odium, but they more represent aspects of Rayse's personality than the shard Odium. Cultivation: Much like Odium, there aren't any Aons meaning cultivation. But, there are many Aons representing something to do with life, such as: Dii (wood), Eto (body, flesh, muscle), Kaa (plants), Opa (flower), and Tii (green). Also, yes, I am aware that Cultivation doesn't equal life, but these were the closest connections I could find. Honour: This was actually the one that inspired this whole post as there is a perfect correlation with Aon Mai, which means Honour. Endowment: Just like Honour, Endowment has a perfect correlation. This time with Aon Eshe, which means Gift / Endowment. Autonomy: There aren't any Aons along the lines of autonomy / independence / mastery. But there are the Aons: Soi (order, organised) and Are (unity, cohesion), that are similar to traits we see Autonomy resemble. Ambition: Ambition was very difficult to find any connection for. The closest was Aon Ati (hope), but that is tentative at best. Invention: Invention was difficult because we don't really know what its Intent is, and there aren't any Aons meaning invention. The closest ones were: Sao (intelligence, learning), Shao (transform, change), and Ene (wit, cleverness) (in modern usage, Ene is used much the same as Sao). Mercy: Mercy is another one with a perfect correlation. That being Aon Ido (mercy, forgiveness). Valour: Aon Aeo means Bravery, which is close enough to valour. Whimsy: I couldn't find anything for whimsy, feel free to leave anything you find in the replies. The Survival / Wisdom / Prudence, etc... Shard: We know virtually nothing of this shard but Aon Ien (wisdom) could be a good fit. Secret Project 3 spoiler below:
  2. In Elantris every aon has the aon aon at least twice, this leads to the aons having symmetry. Once the chasm line is added to the starter aon(aon aon) should it be added to all the aon aons in the aon? In other words should each aon have multiple chasm lines?
  3. The Coopermind says almost with these words that Dawnshards cannot “inflict phisical pain” They can cause pain in the Cognitive realm, they can kill (if the cause of death is painless). I'm thinking that if a certain Dawnshard were to hold out his hand and not give an explicit order to his Spren, if the Shardblade were to materialize (killing someone), it technically wouldn't be the Dawnshard's responsibility. Or use Diminishers fabrials to avoid inflicting pain. Or using Aon Sheo. Could someone shed some clarity, please?
  4. I think the way Hoid edited Charlie's curse is the weakest part of the novel (beyond Hoid handwaving the actual mechanics of becoming an Elantrian). It seemed to treat Aons more like letter rather than the logograms they are. Currently I am glossing over this by leaning into the fairytale narrative aspect of the story but I hope to see better instances of this in the future with more focus on the mechanics of it.
  5. The majority of the magic systems on the planet Sel rely on the Dor to function and can not be used on other planets in the cosmere, but Aons are seen being used on many other worlds. Is another source of power needed for them to function, or is there some other way that they function?
  6. So, in the hope of elantris if I’m not mistaken they say the Aon for hope is Ati, which is the name of ruin, something that the Lord Ruler never got to kill , am I the first to point this coincidence out ? Please let me know if there is a discussion since I wanted to know Brandon’s take on it
  7. I've been looking into aons and of course all of the ones on the coppermind page are without the chasm line and the original version. It has come to my attention that the position of the chasm line that Brandon drew on a signing is wrong as well. If anyone could send a picture of the chasm line in the Aon Aon properly I'd greatly appreciate it. Again the WOB that has the drawing on the book is apparently wrong im aware this has been posted before I saw it but I didn't get a straight answer so if it's possible for a picture to be put on here with it if greatly appreciate it
  8. Experience

    Aon Dor

    From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Dor!
  9. From the album: Aons

    Here's another one! I'll probably only do a couple more then finish the rockbud.
  10. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Aha!
  11. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Dao!
  12. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Ala!
  13. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Ato!
  14. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Daa! I think this has been my favorite one so far. I'm happy with how it turned out.
  15. From the album: Aons

    Here's Aon Edo!
  16. I Am A Fish

    The Aon, Sea

    From the album: Other Stuff The Fish Has Made

    I made the Aon, Sea. It's Stoopid
  17. I Am A Fish

    Aon

    From the album: Other Stuff The Fish Has Made

    I made the Aon, Aon. It's stoopid.
  18. I Am A Fish

    The Aon, Edo

    From the album: Other Stuff The Fish Has Made

    I made the Aon, Edo. It's Stoopid.
  19. So as we have seen in Elantris (and as was discussed by Raoden) it doesn't matter what an Aon is inscribed in, as long as it is inscribed correctly (Aons in stone walls, mud, etc). So, would it be possible to create armour consisting of plates inscribed with Aons which provide protection to make said armour stronger? I can't remember the Aon, but in Raoden's fight with Dilaf we see him use one that pushes back against any force equally. If this were applied to a piece of armour, no matter how hard your enemy struck the armour, it would resist with equal force, effectively making it unbreakable (unless you are a Dahkor monk or such that can remove Aons). Is this plausible? I welcome your thoughts.
  20. So, AonDor functions, on an essential level, by creating a gateway (Aon) through which the Dor (trapped in the cognitive realm) may pass into the physical realm. The Dor, is a result of the splintered remains of devotion and dominion being crammed into the cognitive realm. So, if one were to ascend and somehow reforge the splintered remains of the two shards, what impact would this have on AonDor and the other magic systems on Sel? Would it still be capable of functioning in at all the same way? If there is no Dor to be channelled, then what's the point in AonDor? Would the ascended vessel be able to provide a fuel source for AonDor? Or would the magics of Sel simply revert to their more primal form before the splintering of the shards? If this is the case, what would happen to Elantris and the Elantrians? Or the Dakhor monks? Etc. Well, thanks in advance for your input.
  21. For a long time now, I've been very confused about the correct placement of the Chasm line in the Aons. The main reason for this is due to my attempt to ratify this WoB with the text (and the map) from the 10th Anniversary edition of Elantris. After spending some time going over the relevant scene, and actually tracing Aon Rao over the map, I've come to the conclusion that the WoB has to be wrong. The text states: This clearly shows that the line is being drawn in a north-westerly direction, ending at the road leading southwards, just south of the southern gate. This is completely different from the WoB which appears to show it running north-easterly to the corner of Elantris' city wall. It does, however, match that which is depicted on the map. Since I've been unable to find a correct depiction of the chasm line anywhere on the internet, I've taken the liberty of creating my own for both the base Aon Aon, and Aon Rao: Note: in creating these I used @WeiryWriter's depiction of Aon Aon from the Coppermind since I found the dimensions were pretty much perfect. I didn't use his Aon Rao though since I found that the dimensions were a little off.
  22. So what can AonDor really do? It seems to be incredibly versatile, but we only really saw a few aons properly used in the books. I'm pretty sure I recall reading off handed remarks of seeing elantrians flying around in Elantris, is this just the people of Kae thinking up things or is there an aon which grants flight? I feel that sadly, the case is simply that we haven't seen enough of AonDor or Elantris. I welcome any input.
  23. If a misting or a mistborn traveled to Sel, and then to the city of Elantris, and then had an Elantrin carve an Aon on a piece of metal that the Allomancy then burned, how would that effect the powers of the Allomancer? Any thought? Would an Aon Rao increase the power of a steel push or a bendalloy bubble?
  24. I read Elantris, and I love it. However, I am confused about one thing: Is there only 44 Seons, one for each Aon, or are there seons that share aons? I know it is probably a stupid question, but it is bugging me a lot
  25. While rereading Elantris, I took a look at the Aon dictionary and stumbled over the Aon IRE, meaning "Time, Age". Any thoughts about it being connected to the Ire in SH? (Somehow an obvious similarity, so I searched the forum for it and didn't find anything - if there is something I didn't find, just pull this over there.)
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