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  1. Hey there everyone! We've had concerns be brought up about content from RoW being used in games. This is a fair thing to wonder about, as nine months can be a bit long. We have decided that our policy here is to make a new thread for that game if you wish to play it with RoW content, and title it appropriately. For example, Who's That Cosmere Character [RoW]. Spoilers themselves are not permitted in the name of your topic, as anywhere else on the forums. These threads will be locked after the nine months is over. If it is not a game that lends itself well to splitting threads, or you only wish to go on a small tangent in a chatting thread, please tag anything and everything that you think could possibly be called a spoiler, no matter how vague, and be clear that the tags are for RoW and not being used in a joking or spoiler-chain manner. Please report any posts you see that are not following these rules. If you have any questions, feel free to address them here.
  2. So, I have recently wrapped up my first read of way of kings prime and am eager to discuss with anyone and everyone. What are your thoughts? Things you liked, disliked, found interesting. There are no wrong answers I assure you. Thanks for engaging with the topic in advance.
  3. Due in part to boredom and indecisiveness I googled knight radiant quiz and found one I hadn't seen before. Figured I would link it here and let people take and discuss it if they wish. While I'm well aware finding one's order is not nearly as much of a struggle for others as it is me. Thought it could lead to fun discussions. Link is below enjoy. https://www.archetopias.com/test/radiant-order/
  4. So recently while reading way of kings prime I found myself drawn back to the surges of our knights radiant. One that perplexes me a bit on its full application is transportation. I know it allows elsecallers and willshapers to go to the cognitive realm but I wonder if there might be something more. I could be wrong but I believe the pursuer used the same surge (granted he is a cognitive shadow) in a different manner. Which left me wondering if radiants could as well. Anyone else have thoughts or ideas? Please feel free to discuss below and thanks for commenting.
  5. So, I am starting to wander my way into some of the non cosmere works as I await the lost metal. Just curious if anyone else has much experience with the world of Enderal as I love it immensely and have no one to talk about it with (much like the cosmere). If you are not familiar feel free to comment anyway as I so love to gush about any form of media I enjoy. As always thank you for your time and I look forward to talking with you all.
  6. Hi everyone! I started reading the Cosmere in January and absolutely DEVOURED Mistborn, then Elantris, Shadows for Silence, and Sixth of the Dusk. I’m currently about halfway through Words of Radiance so please just let me know if the answer to my question is somehow a spoiler for Stormlight or any of the other stuff I haven’t read yet and that’ll be suitable for me. ANYWAY here’s my question: When do we learn that “The Soveriegn”, who was originally implied to be The Lord Ruler in BoM is Kelsier? Is it just something I completely didn’t pick up on when I read BoM? Like it makes so much sense now that I know it especially considering the spearhead twist but was it said in a book or is it a WoB thing? I spoiled myself on the topic reading the coppermind a few minutes ago and now that it’s been so long since I read Bands I just don’t remember it well enough to know if it’s something I missed. I also read Secret History and as far as I remember it ended with the explicit implication (explication?) that Kelsier was still doing stuff that would tie in to Era 2 and beyond but nothing specific. Sorry this is kinda scattered but I need to know if it’s something I missed while reading or if there’s just more Mistborn content out there I simply haven’t read yet and need to get to before The Lost Metal comes out? Also this is my first post on this site and as I keep reading and expand my knowledge of the cosmere and therefore fear spoilers less and less I look forward to interacting with this community more and more :^)
  7. So, recently was thinking back on Brandon's description of the Ghostbloods while talking with the 17th shard. To summarize very very briefly, Brandon mentioned that the people drawn to Kelsier's organization are very cut throat and competitive (much like their leader). However, those that Kelsier handpicks or directly oversea tend to be more along the lines of what we saw in era 1. So, A thought I had was that the organization draws people more innately like Kelsier. Yet, the ones he prefers to serve under him are more like his old crew in that they serve as the brakes to his acceleration. As we saw a lot in the first mistborn book Dox, Ham, Breeze, and Clubs all worked hard to curtail some of Kelsier's worst traits. Now given Kelsier's obvious comfort with his own insanity and his egotism I think he is doubtful to try and work very hard to change that. So instead he essentially hires people out to be his own conscience. Particularly given his natural inclination to like innately good people even while not being one himself. Afterword Thank you to those who read this. Kind of random but I guess I am feeling the withdrawal of cosmere content and wanted to voice some thoughts. If you have comments, contradictions, or just wish to talk more I encourage you to comment. Hope you all have a great day, night, etc. Just keep in mind, "There's always another secret."
  8. So, I may be coming to this a bit late. However, I cannot sleep and find my mind wandering. Like so many of us here on the 17th shard i took the official radiant quiz. To my immense surprise I got lightweaver as my top result. Thus, due to a slightly narcissistic curiosity I decided to research them more. While the official descriptions brandon gave are great. I must confess still find myself wondering about the character of prospective lightweavers. Sure many are artists and the spren are drawn to those who deceive themselves. Yet, we see soldiers, prostitutes, artists, and a spy join as well. Some of whom seem to have no artistic inclinations. So I guess I'm curious if someone can help me discern the greater truth as to what makes a lightweaver. Furthermore, what else draws a cryptic to bond them beyond a propensity for self delusion? What traits truly make one a good fit for the order? afterword thank you all for reading and engaging in advance. I appreciate your thoughts and your indulgence of my inquiry.
  9. Hello all! This is my first time posting in a spoiler forum so I hope I am getting it all correct. Please let me know if I should be doing something differently. I haven't seen this asked anywhere in my cursory inquiries so I decided to come out and ask it and ask for input on it. So a bit of back ground to my idea. There are some contradictory statements on if it is the Vessel or the Shard of Odium that wants to become the only shard in the Cosmere. I personally think that it was more because of the Vessel's ambition. My question to you is this:
  10. So I have been thinking about what it is that Taravangian saw in his deal that he thought could be a loophole he could take advantage of. I have heard several people talk about the "child champion" as a possibility among others and I think we're not thinking deep enough. I keep going back to the bargaining scene between Dalinar and Odium and how breaking the contract would put Odium within Dalinar's power and vice versa. Then I go back to Taravangian's deal with Odium at the end of Oathbringer and how he specifies the spirit of the deal is what is binding not the wording (although I am sure it plays a role). Then I think about Brandon's promise at the end of the book, how Kal and Szeth are to fly to Shinovar and Kal is to bring Ishar back to help Dalinar with his bondsmith powers and Ishar says he can repair the Oathpact. I think if they succeed at such a task (repairing the Oathpact) that would be Dalinar reneging on his end of the bargain to have a contest of champions in 10 days time because it would prevent Odium from being able to send a champion to fight on his behalf. Therefore his champion was not unmolested on his journey to Urithiru. This would result in Odium being freed, because Dalinar would be within Odium's power. What do you guys think? Am I crazy or does this argument hold water?
  11. Hello people of the Shard! I have loved A Quiet Place! So, I want to talk about it! I want to here you’re thoughts! Just to clarify, this is the first one, please do not talk about part two. First of all, If you haven’t seen it I would recommend leaving so nothing gets spoiled for you. Anyways, let’s start! Feel free to let me know your thoughts!
  12. The first half of this conversation happened Tuesday. After which I had to call her and get her to give me more context as to where she was so I knew whether or not Kelsier was going to die yet. The second half is from Friday. Moments like this are priceless. I then explained to her the concept of the Sandersavalanche and encouraged her to finish The Final Empire today. It's so amusing watching her react, I thought it would be fun to share some of the best here. Now, opinion question. Should I take her straight to Stormlight next, or somehow get her a copy of Secret History before starting WOK? She read Warbreaker first, she's going to finish Era 1 next, and she's hungry for more explicit Cosmere stuff, so I'm planning Stormlight next of the major storylines. That way she'll have Era 2, Elantris, and the Arcanum Unbounded to enjoy once she's caught up on Stormlight. But I'm now debating whether it will be more fun to give her Secret History so she knows about Kelsier's cognitive shadow before reading Stormlight.
  13. Just finished, a good read with plenty of juicy tidbits but I was a little disappointed with the ending to be honest. Anyone else care to share their thoughts?
  14. I've been thinking for some time about the presentation of disability and chronic pain in Brandon's novels. I've been rereading a number of his books to refresh my memory on some of the details as well and I ended up with a lot of thoughts. I've written him a letter trying to provide some insight and I think it's a topic worth discussing here as well. Fair warning: it's kind of...long. But I think it needed to be to really unpack and explain what I wanted to talk about. Spoiler Warning: The letter includes direct spoilers for Mistborn, Stormlight, Elantris, Warbreaker and Reckoners. But other books are relevant to the topic as well. If you haven't read some of Brandon's books and are concerned about spoilers this is not a safe thread to read.
  15. Ok so I believe the 5th windrunner ideal is something along the lines of “I will kill to protect” why do I think this, well the sky breakers progress toward different levels of the law snd personally I believe Shallan and all light weavers but especially her are progressing toward seeing themselves for how they are, and her final ideal will probably be “I am shallan” or some variation of that so what is the windrunner ideal progression is so far 2. I will protect those who cannot protect themselves 3. I will protect even those I hate These seem to pretty much encompass everyone you could protect. do that brings us to 4 This is an exception that makes you more effective at your job, it allows you to move on/ keep moving now additionally many of the main characters are almost the ideal(sorry not sorry) candidates for each order and so I think it’s probably a good idea to assume for speculation their arcs match up with the ideals and I think the biggest point in his arc kaladin has left is moash after rythm of war I don’t think moash is turning away from odium and based on the trend of the 4th ideal being a exception that makes you more effective at protecting, and kaladins biggest major plot point that has only been kinda resolved is that he wants to protect too many people, a big part of that is resolved now that he doesn’t have to constantly protect bridge four and many others but there are so many like the parshendi he still feels the need to protect, and this is paralyzing him This follows the trajectory of the oaths i think and I believe he will swear the 5th ideal before or after killing moash, why do I believe this, because kaladin has to kill someone he doesn’t hate for no reason other then to protect others and moash fits that description since kaladin still does not want to kill him but he is a threat to so many people and now may want vengeance.
  16. my theory is that the stormlight archive book 5 concludes the roshar saga and from book 6 it will be more cosmere bound. we will visit other planets and meet more worldhoppers. now I may be wrong but I do think that wit will help some important characters like jasna, shallan to leave roshar and allow them to become worldhoppers.
  17. my theory is that the stormlight archive book 5 concludes the roshar saga and from book 6 it will be more cosmere bound. we will visit other planets and meet more worldhoppers. now I may be wrong but I do think that wit will help some important characters like jasna, shallan to leave roshar and allow them to become worldhoppers.
  18. Through use of forgery it is shown that one can take different paths in their past for different results to become different versions that could have been Since it has become apparent Hoid had an opportunity to become a shard at some point could forging his soul turn him into one?
  19. Cognitive Reflections After speaking with people online I have become obsessed with the way people’s beliefs, perceptions, and interpretations effect the cognitive realm. My question If a blind man makes a bowl with no clue what material it is, what does the cognitive representation look like? What color is it? What happens if he tells people in town about this beautiful purple bowl he made? What if he then brings the bright red bowl to town? The Applications What happens when this same man makes a sword from material he believes whole heartedly can store stormlight (or some other effect)? Thoughts? What could be made? What can be done with this knowledge? Thank you in advance!
  20. Super Lift! The idea Lift gets a bendalloymind so she can can eat bottomlessly and bring out endless reserves of Awesomeness! The thought process After reading both Mistborn and Stormlight Archive I am curious about the combinations possible throughout the Cosmere and the interactions of investiture! The question What combinations of the Cosmere interest you the most? What effect, drawbacks and uses does this create? Combination question#2 Would the gemstones of Roshar be able to capture the mists? Would an allomancer be able draw on the gym stone as if it were metals?
  21. Building from the foundation @Lindel set, me and @voidlightx completed the lyrics for the Stormlight version of the first Hamilton song. It was really fun, and I'm really proud of how it turned out. We are planning on doing a full cast recording if it's possible, so if you want to join, DM me, I'm creating a discord group to coordinate everything. Spoilers through RHYTHM OF WAR. We hope you enjoyed it.
  22. Hello 17th Shard, It's Been A While... After finishing Rhythm of War, I was bursting at the seams with all the amazing revelations and confirmations that fill the pages of this book. RoW might be the most Cosmere aware book we have seen published yet and I loved it. There are so many things to share but I focused on 10 observations that I felt were critical to notice but were likely to be lost in the rush of so many epic scenes and interactions in the book. So I hope you enjoy my video on the topics you might have overlooked on your first read-through. Please follow the links to the fantastic artists who allowed me to showcase their art in this and my other lore videos! In this video, I showcase a selection of important details that you might have overlooked in your reading of the latest Stormlight Archive novel. Not only do I discuss these topics but I speculate about their broader implications in the Cosmere and my theories about Book 5 in the series. I draw on information from all the books in the Cosmere so expect some deep lore speculation.
  23. I don't know how exactly to handle spoilers, so i'm going to be subtle. Who targeted Notum outside Lasting Integrity? Why? I don't think we ever get an explanation for that
  24. I know that this is most likely referring to a southern Scadrian around a perpendicularity but I haven't seen anybody talk about it.
  25. Kaladin has a lot of little indications around him that he isn’t quite a normal windrunner but these have yet to be explained. If anyone for example 1. deflecting the high storm- though this could be an instinctive use of adhesion 2. The way the wind seems to grant him supernatural fighting prowess which is in my mind described almost like atium. The wind blowing around him could be adhesion but I don’t see why that would grant him enhanced senses, speed and coordination especially to the level that it does, on top of the fact that no other windrunner shows this happening nobody else has this kind of wind imagery. 3. Child of tanavast- we know that kaladin being the only person called child of tanavast is significant but we don’t know why yet, it’s possible this imparts him with these other abilities. 4. the way kaladin kills the pursuer is a very very odd instance, it’s possible it’s the standard wind thing but that doesn’t normally do what happened here. Kaladin becomes enraged and gains super speed, a power which as far as we have seen only one other power set in the cosmere grants. (Feruchamy) that’s not even to mention the yellowish red tint to his eyes venli sees which indicates potentially some level of corruption from odium. if anyone would be able to see understand and explain what is up with all of this it is ishar, the most practiced bondsmith ever, capable seeing connections could surely be able to determine this and in fact this may be what helps convince ishar to help Dalinar, he sincere believes he is an aspect of the almighty but maybe something about kaladin and the fact that the son of tanavast thing may indicate he actually is one. so what could happen when they meet? one theory I do have that’s a bit crackpot is that this has soemthing to do with cultivation, cultivation being a god of change and nature seems to me like it very well could have some level of manipulation over stuff like the winds and maybe she granted this power, this could also explained the slightly corrupted eyes since red investiture is corrupted seemingly regardless of what other type is corrupting it.
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