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  1. It's Tuesday, so you know what that means. It's time for yet another set of Oathbringer chapters, this time chapters 16-18! Since I'm not going to spoil them here, go check them out, or check out our discussion thread here. We also have some super exciting other things. We have another Merin chapter from Way of Kings Prime, but we also have an annotation for the prologue of Way of Kings. Most excitingly, we have a Bridge Four scene from Dragonsteel Prime. That's right. That Dragonsteel. The annotation on the Szeth prologue is quite interesting. He explains how the magic was quite different in Way of Kings Prime, and how he immediately wanted to make sure that readers knew it would be a high learning-curve series. He says that Jek, the old version of Szeth (which we read a chapter from) had no magical abilities. Brandon also talks about how he needs to put his foreshadowing front and center, and teases us with the black sphere, as usual. But we have to talk about Dragonsteel Prime. This was Brandon's thesis long ago (and you can still read it at the BYU library). This excerpt is from Bridge Four. Yup. If you don't know the story, Brandon lifted the entire Shattered Plains from Dragonsteel, and the entire Bridge Four sequence. In this section we are introduced to the Shattered Plains--and immediately told why they are Shattered on Yolen, which is still a mystery to their existence on Roshar. Then we get Bridge Four, and you can tell it's very similar but less well-written. Oh yeah, and you also meet Frost, the guy who Hoid writes the letter to in Way of Kings, and responds to Hoid in Words of Radiance. He's here. You get a mention of the Sho Del, because they aren't fighting Parshendi on the Plains here. So yeah, it's pretty cool, because basically no one has read Dragonsteel. Check it out. As usual, only discuss Oathbringer spoilers in our Oathbringer spoiler board, or our Discord's #oathbringer_spoilers channel. You can view all the Oathbringer chapters and their discussion thread in our Oathbringer Chapter Index.
  2. We all have scenes that we would love to see in Oathbringer, but are there any scenes that we expressly do not want to see? For me a reconciliation between Amraam and Kaladin would be horrific. The Stormfather getting revenge on Kaladin would also be awful. Well fellow Sharders what do you think?
  3. As we discuss Oathbringer for the next few weeks, I think it would be useful to have some agreed-upon names to distinguish the former Parshendi and the former Parshmen. It would also be nice to have a term that encompasses both groups. Here is what I propose: Formerly Parshendi (Eshonai's group that lived on the shattered plains) - Listeners because they listen to the rhythms, unlike the newly transformed Parshmen Former Parshmen (used to be servants until the Everstorm) - Awakened Parshmen or Talking Parshmen (I don't love these terms. Anyone have anything better?) Both of those groups collectively (all the marble-skinned bipeds) - Parshendi since that means "Parshmen who can think" in Alethi, and the former Parshmen can think now that they are out of no-form/slaveform Parshmen who have not transformed/still don't have a form - Parshmen (We don't know if there are any of these left) Thoughts? I'll update this post if there is a consensus on better names.
  4. I didn't see a place to report errors from Tor's chapter releases of Oathbringer, so I figured I would start one myself. I'm assuming we can probably ignore the weird mistakes like the occasional 'e' that seems to be replaced with a space. If you see any spelling, grammar, or content mistakes, though, feel free to post them here!
  5. Well, this is just for quick reference. Just to see how many days until Oathbringer's release. And this random tidbit of information. Oathbringer is 1,240 pages long. Now, countdown! This is a timer that I found somewhere, I think @Ammanas posted it somewhere. (If you didn't, please tell me so I can edit this. ) Oathbringer Countdown And I also did this to my calendar, so... September So, I'm not sure all of the little handwritten numbers next to the date are legible, but those are the amount of days until the release. So, if you can see them, yay! If not, sorry.
  6. Good morning! Tor.com has posted Oathbringer chapters 13-15. Check out our forum topic on chapters 13-15, and for all Oathbringer preview chapters--and their discussion topic--check out the Oathbringer Preview Chapter Index. As usual, keep Oathbringer discussion in our Oathbringer Spoiler Board and the #oathbringer_spoilers channel in the 17th Shard Discord. Do not post Oathbringer material elsewhere! There's also two more Way of Kings Prime Chapters: Merin 3 and Merin 4. Prime continues to be a profoundly different story than the one we know but It's fascinating to see glimmers of what it will one day be. There have also been two Annotations for The Way of Kings posted, one for the world map, and one for the prelude. In other news the Kaladin album Kickstarter funded yesterday, ultimately raising $112,667! They have also announced that they will be composing the full album. The second half of the songs will be digital, rather than recorded instruments, but they are going to try to record at least the strings for them.
  7. Chapters 10-12 were released today, and everyone's talking about the big comedy moment: the image of Syl watching Kaladin have sex. Yes, the peeping spren is indeed hilarious. But it's also so much more. I think Brandon may have just dropped some epic foreshadowing, disguised as an innocuous joke. Spren do not respect closed doors. Spren are usually invisible to most people. Radiants are popping up all over Roshar, so sapient spren are about to be almost as common as regular spren. Conclusion? There is no more privacy on Roshar. Every single private conversation and covert activity is vulnerable to spyspren. No secret is safe. The Sleepless are nothing compared to spyspren. We've already seen Pattern used this way, but any Radiant spren should be able to do the same. And it's too big an advantage not to use. In fact, I'm a little disappointed that Shallan hasn't shared this technique with Dalinar and the others. It would probably be a big help in the murder investigation. Speaking of which... Adolin did a bad thing at the end of WoR, and he doesn't think there were any witnesses. Same for the copycat killer. (Assuming Adolin himself isn't the copycat killer.) But there could always be a spyspren. And what about voidspren? What if Odium has little eyes and ears all over the place, and no one can see them?
  8. https://www.tor.com/2017/09/12/oathbringer-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-7-9/ Steeldancer strikes again
  9. Good morning! Tor.com has posted Oathbringer chapters 10-12.Check out our forum topic on chapters 10-12, and for all Oathbringer preview chapters--and their discussion topic--check out the Oathbringer Preview Chapter Index. As usual, keep Oathbringer discussion in our Oathbringer Spoiler Board and the #oathbringer_spoilers channel in the 17th Shard Discord. Do not post Oathbringer material elsewhere! There's also two Way of Kings Prime Chapters: Merin 1 and Merin 2. Merin, who, remember, is the version of Kaladin in Prime, is insanely different from Kaladin. There's lots of differences in the world. Oathgates exist and are active! Check it out. It's a fascinating look into an old draft.
  10. So, we know that Bridge four have become Kaladin's squires, gaining Windrunner powers when in his proximity. We also know that Rlain has stayed with Bridge Four, thankfully untransformed by the Everstorm. So, is he a squire? Do we finally have a listener who can surge bind? Will he be the bridge that will finally allow listeners to attract and bond radiant spren?
  11. Top of the morning to you all! Tor.com has posted Oathbringer chapters 7-9, and the plot thickens! Check out our forum topic on chapters 7-9, and for all Oathbringer preview chapters--and their discussion topic--check out the Oathbringer Preview Chapter Index. As usual, keep Oathbringer discussion in our Oathbringer Spoiler Board and the #oathbringer_spoilers channel in the 17th Shard Discord. But wait, there's more! Yesterday we have a new Way of Kings Prime scene (this one is actually new, unlike the Jek scene which we apparently had since, uh, 2012. Oops), with our good friend "Dalenar." Yeah, the names are pretty wonky in this. This scene introduces proto-Dalinar and also, interestingly enough, the start of proto-Kaladin, who in this version was named Merin. You can see some dramatic differences in this version, because in Prime, Kaladin took the Shards he won. Yup. That kind of makes everything different. Another interesting note: when they say "Awakening" in this chapter, that just means Soulcasting. Clearly they changed the name when Warbreaker came out. It's a fascinating look into Roshar, with so many things different (like no spren). Also check out Brandon's essay above the chapter talking about writing depression with Kaladin. It's like we get an annotation with this scene, too!
  12. Hello my fellow cosmere inhabitants! I want to introduce myself by telling you about my not so mystical journey through the cosmere. My now Ex-Wife was reading a silly sounding book called "Mistborn". I remember her trying to explain the concept of Mistborn and Mistings, and saying to her "that sounds really stupid". Well, she insisted that i give the book a chance and that I'd "love it". And now, to this day I am so happy that I gave in and read the rusting book! I was hooked by the end of the first chapter, which was very strange for me because I do not enjoy reading. Well, I DIDN'T enjoy reading at least... But now I had found purpose. I binge read the first trilogy then waited patiently for the second trilogy, and ended up re-reading the first trilogy twice over. At this point, I was picking up on little things and realized that Brandon Sanderson is god among men, and he was tying up loose ends and answering questions that I didn't even think to ask the first time over. At this point in time, I was convinced that there could be no book saga greater than the Mistborn Saga... but then I had the opportunity to meet Brandon at SLC Comic Con. I was a little starstruck, but played it cool and told him, "I love your mistborn series, like, absolutely love it. What is another one of your books that you would recommend to me. I will go buy it right this second" Brandon in his wisdom told me, I had a lot of fun writing the mistborn books, but my very favorite book to write was Way Of Kings. So I bought the storming book. Kalak's breath, the book was HUGE. I didn't realize what I was getting myself into, but after some failed attempts at reading it, I reached out to audible and purchased the copy ready by the majestic Michael Kramer and the lovely Kate Reading. I listened to the book and was disappointed and confused listening to the first few chapters. It was confusing to me how it jumped from the Heralds over to Kaladin over to Shallan. I almost gave up on the book, until I started making sense of the jumping around. Then... I was hooked! Even though I live in Utah, in one of the higher elevated peaks, I still considered myself an airsick lowlander... I read through WOK and straight on into WOR. At the end of WOR, I started searching for the next book. The one that hadn't yet been written. My heart broke. I became shattered as if Odium himself had ripped me out of my world. I was broken, and didn't know what to do with myself and shrunk away... After some time, I decided to re-listen to the books. I also found out that Oathbringer will be out by the end of this year, and I decided to peruse the wiki to hear the speculation.. This is when I heard talks about Hoid. I have so many questions about him, but those can wait. I'm on my second time through WOK and WOR, and I'm nearing the end of WOR. I'll probably read WOK and WOR a third time before Oathbringer comes out, because I NEED TO KNOW EVERYTHING. I have become obsessed, I go to sleep thinking about the cosmere. I need to know everything about this universe. I'm getting ready to go back to read elantris and warbreaker for the first time.. I'm like an awakening Spren, I feel like I should have all of these answers, but I just don't yet. Anyway, Happy to be here.. I'll be as active as I can. I'll be here, even through a High Storm if need be because, Storm it! I love this universe!
  13. Looks like Tor.com is releasing these at 12:01am Eastern. Check it out: https://www.tor.com/2017/08/22/oathbringer-brandon-sanderson-prologue/
  14. Today we have a special episode of Shardkeepers, our analysis podcast, where we are talking solely about Oathbringer predictions. Strap yourself in: this one's a long podcast, but you know what, Oathbringer is a massive tome by itself. We recorded this a long time ago, prior to all the sample chapters and the beta read, so we know no special information. A few of us did see the first Dalinar flashback, but that's it. Obviously, there are Stormlight spoilers for Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, and also Edgedancer, and some minor mentions of other books. We have a little different crew this time. We have Ian and Eric, and joining us is Alyx of Splintercast fame (and notorious Renarin-lover, of course), as well and Josh and Mi'chelle, the founders of the site. Also joining us is the periodic meows of Alyx's cat, Dalish, that the mic did pick up. And you know what the best part of this podcast is? With Part One of Oathbringer coming out Tuesdays, you'll probably get to laugh at how silly our predictions are right now!
  15. If you haven't heard, the Stormlight Archive subreddit is holding a contest in celebration of the release of Oathbringer! In honor of Dalinar's book, the theme of the contest is UNITE THEM! Anyone is welcome to participate, and there are some fantastic prizes up for grabs. There will be two grand prizes. The first, a numbered first edition hardcover of Oathbringer, will be awarded to the entrant who receives the highest popular vote. These books are only available at the release party and are not easy to come by! It will be signed by Brandon and any other members of Team Dragonsteel who are available. The second grand prize is a print of the cover of Oathbringer signed by Brandon and (potentially) Michael Whelan. The winner of this prize will be selected by the subreddit's moderation team. In addition to the grand prizes, there are a number of other prizes available. Four runners up will receive Stormlight Archive pendants, donated by Bedali Jewelry. Lastly, ten honorable mentions will receive small prizes, such as a Syl sticker or a signed bookplate. So how can you win one of these awesome prizes? Participants may submit any type of creative work that they've made for the purposes of the contest. There are two main rules: you have to explain how your creation exemplifies the theme of the contest (Unite them!), and it has to be related to the Stormlight Archive. This could be anything from Bridge 4 fanart, to a video of a dance you've performed, to a Stormlight-themed computer game. Think out of the box! Look for the "submit your entry" thread on October 1st in /r/Stormlight_Archive. Post your creation there along with an explanation of how it exemplifies the contest theme. You'll need a Reddit account if you don't have one, but they're very easy to set up. To see the full rules or ask any questions, see the contest announcement thread. If you're not interested in making an entry, you are still invited to participate! Look for the entry thread the week of October 1st and vote for your favorite entries. Voting ends on October 7th.
  16. I just want to release this statement early. I don't have hard evidence, and I don't know if others have submitted the theory in the past. The in-world auther of the epigraphs we have seen in Oathbringer, is HONOR. I do not remember his proper name, but the epigraphs were written by the holder of HONOR, after he was separated from his shard. He states that "those who saw farther" than himself, would likely presume him dead, but that he had in fact experienced something much worse. He is referring to the other holders of Shards, some of whom are able to see quite a distance into the future. The fate-worse-than-death he refers to is his separation from his shard (which may or may not have been voluntary), and having to view the events on Roshar, powerless to effect them as he once could. Honor may, or may not have acquired a Splinter of his previous Power, and he may, or may not still be alive.
  17. Putting this here well ahead of time so we don't have multiple threads next week hopefully.
  18. https://www.tor.com/2017/09/12/oathbringer-by-brandon-sanderson-chapters-7-9/ Happy Reading!
  19. I want to talk about the Preface of Oathbringer, and not the one with Eshonai, that’s a prologue anyway. What does this Preface tell us about where Stormlight Archive is going, Roshar, and the author? Let’s list all we have so far here. I will put my comments under each and all said comments are speculation. Chapter 1 When this was released last week my only thought was, "So Oathbringer is a book in world. Cool." Now I think this is a book written after the events of SA3. I think the book is about Dalinar, who is the Oathbringer. Or it could be about the sword and the events around Sadeas death. Either way, Navani, Shallah, or Jasnah wrote this. Once again the prelude quote fits the chapter. Many would think Dalinar’s visions should not exist. Chapter 2 This tells me two things. One, people did not want this record of truth to be written, but it needed to be. The other thing it suggests is that Sadeas's death was not the smarted action, but it needed to be done. I think even those fans who condemn Adolin for his actions wouldn’t care if he had killed Sadeas in the arena or on the battlefield. Sadeas did need to be removed, the method just may not have been the best Chapter 3 didn’t have a prelude. Think this has been the case for all flashback chapters. Chapter 4 It still suggests Navani, Shallan, or Jasnah, however, this statement feels more like Jasnah. Both Navani and Shallan are on the path to excommunication for heresy because of their association with Dalinar and the KR. The Devotories and Ardentia do not like what Dalinar is saying and doing. I think marrying Navani was the last straw. However, neither Shallan nor Navani have denied god at all. Only Jasnah holds her head high and wears the mantle of an atheist heretic proudly. This author holds no shame in her condemnation. This prelude screams Jasnah. Chapter 5 This quote makes it clear only a KR wrote Oathbringer. Navani could not see into Shadesmar and hang between the two realms. Shallah could, but the writer's voice does not sound like Shallah. So more proof that the author is Jasnah. This also suggests it was written after the events in SA3. The author was contemplating their situation and felt some honest record of the events needed to be written. Chapter 6 If you read the extra Jasnah chapter, she did worry she would die until she jumped all the way into Shadesmar. And her family, including Renarin who can see the future, thought she died. So this quote I think removes all doubt that if the book is written after the events of SA3 Jasnah is the author. So, from what we have so far I conclude the in world Oathbringer was written sometime after the events of SA3 by Jasnah. Also, the reason it was written was to have an honest account of this period. Now, I further speculate that this was written to vindicate Dalinar’s choices at the refounding of the KR during the end of the previous civilization. The world as it was has ended and a new world is being formed by Dalinar and Taravagain’s actions, along with the new conflict with the awakened enemy. I also worry that this was written after Dalinar’s death. That doesn’t mean he will die in SA3. The in-world Oathbringer could have been written twenty years after these events. We don’t have a date. Still, it is a concern. I’m sure my opinions will change as we get more chapters from part one of SA3. I will likely talk about them as well in this thread as they come out. Thoughts? Who do you think wrote the Oathbringer of Roshar and why did they write it?
  20. I am wondering if everyone is feeling the same way I am at the end of Chapter 6?
  21. Your withdrawal is over. Tor.com has now posted Chapters 4-6 of Oathbringer. What else is there to say? Nothing, get to it! Seems like these will always occur at 9am Eastern time from now on, for sure. Here's our forum topic on Oathbringer Chapters 4-6, and for all Oathbringer preview chapters--and their discussion topic--check out the Oathbringer Preview Chapter Index. Remember, keep Oathbringer discussion in our Oathbringer Spoiler Board and the #oathbringer_spoilers channel in the 17th Shard Discord.
  22. For all of you who are saying the first three chapters and prologue of Oathbringer seemed short, I did some word counts: (FYI: the average chapter length in WoK is 4,386 and in WoR it is 3,954) Prologues WoK (Szeth): 6132 WoR (Jasnah): 5214 OB (Eshonai): 2805 (the most common word in all the prologues is "the"; WoK: 520, WoR: 326, OB: 173) Chapter One WoK (Cenn): 4557 WoR (Shallan): 7871 OB (Dalinar): 2293 (the most common word is "the"; WoK: 258 , WoR: 425 , OB: 177) Chapter Two WoK (Kaladin): 5051 WoR (Kaladin): 5485 OB (Adolin/Dalinar): 3278 (the most common word is "the"; WoK: 304, WoR: 229 , OB: 214) Chapter Three WoK (Shallan): 5308 WoR (Shallan): 2863 OB (Dalinar - flashback): 3988 (the most common word is "the"; WoK: 305, WoR: 186 , OB: 283) Bonus WoK Prelude (Kalak): 1298 ("the" occurs 82 times) So we were all right, all the Oathbringer chapters are under 4,000 pages and only one is above the average chapter count in WoR (chapter 3). I would say that the Oathbringer's chapters are shorter than the other two books. On the other hand, Tor said they were putting out 32 sample chapters or all of part one. WoK had 11 chapter in part one and WoR has 12. So I would expect the other chapter to be short as well. Any other thoughts?
  23. So in the first sample chapter for Oathbringer, we see Dalinar during one of his visions. After going to a different spot and staying longer. He sees the following: Later he says: What did Dalinar see in the eyes of the champion and why were they so familiar to him? And why was he more scarred of the champion than the unmade or Odium. I was thinking that it could be a parshendi/voidbringer (they have red eyes, right) but I don't think that that would have have that much of an effect on Dalinar. So who is the champion and why is Dalinar so scarred of him/her?
  24. You want new Stormlight 3 content, right? Well, you're in luck: Tor.com has posted Chapters 1-3 of Oathbringer! You might have read the prologue before (it had been at some readings) but here you have new stuff! I'm not going to spoil a thing about it, so you best head right there for your Stormlight fix before your withdrawal until next week. Here's our forum topic on Oathbringer Chapters 1-3, and for all Oathbringer preview chapters--and their discussion topic--check out the Oathbringer Preview Chapter Index. Remember, keep Oathbringer discussion in our Oathbringer Spoiler Board and the #oathbringer_spoilers channel in the 17th Shard Discord.
  25. So what's the spoiler protocol for this? Are the admins going to not allow any content until the official release date in November? Or will edits (like chapter summaries) be allowed as the first 32 chapters trickle out? I guess I would vote to wait, but some people might not want to. http://www.tor.com/2017/08/15/brandon-sanderson-oathbringer-serialization-announcement/
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