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So i just came up with this and have no real idea if all this is true but the information we know is Wayne got his lucky hat from a cab driver -Hoid was on Scadrial watching wax and Wayne poised as a cab driver so my idea is that Wayne's hat could have been Hoids hat and has a chance that its invested. i know its probably not true but Id like to think Wayne was at least kinda right about the hat being special. also yes at this point Wax hadn't hired Hoid but he was maybe still poising as a cab driver on the planet just to keep a watch on Harmony sword. just wanted to see what you guys thought about it.

Hey guys, I'm a religious fan of Brandon's books and I love the way that he's reinventing the genre of fantasy with his cosmere. I knew of the 17th shard for a while but being the person that I am I intended to enjoy it by myself for the interim. I've recently joined for the interest of keeping up with what the fans of Sanderson are doing as well as keep up with any new theories that may pop up on here. My favorite of his books is definitely the Wax and Wayne series which I know isn't a common pick but it blends many of my favorite genres together with the coolest magic system I've ever seen. I look forward to being more apart of the Sanderson community and can't wait to see what happens next!

So I was just reading over a post in the Stormlight Archives section..here..and it got me to thinking something. Why could Ruin destroy Scadrial (Or at least do his best to try)? Is Odium the only Shard who can't wipe out civilizations? I thought all the Shards had some level of non-interference cooked into them from before the Shattering? I think I also just accepted Harmony's decreasing ability to act as, at least in part, a rule/prohibition on Shards from planetary/systemic destruction? Thoughts/Enlightenments?

Is it just me or are Shallan and Vin both almost 'little knives' as Mraize calls Shallan. If you think about it, Vin is basically the same thing.

Mild era 2 spoilers: For those who don’t know, each shard has a God Metal associated with it (Lerasium, Atium, Raysium, etc.), and Harmony’s God Metal is Harmonium, or Ettmetal. Ettmetal is very hard to experiment with, due to it exploding whenever it comes in contact with water, and its Allomatic, Feruchemical, and Hemalurgical abilities are all unknown. I have no idea what its abilities in Allomancy or Hemalurgy would be, but I think anyone could store something in a Ettmetal metalmind, and storing would have no effect, but tapping would make you a full Feruchemist. The main reason I think this is how Atium and especially Lerasium work. Those are the god metals of Ruin and Preservation, which both are associated with magic systems, Hemalurgy and Allomancy. When Lerasium is burned (it can be burned by anyone) it turns the burner into a Mistborn, and an Atium spike steals any power, the crux of what Hemalurgy is. In both of those examples, using a God Metal in the Metallic art associated with it makes you able to use all of the more minor powers associated with (doesn’t fit exactly with Hemalurgy). So, I think Ettmetal has the same effect on Feruchemy. My theory is also somewhat supported by this WoB:

Hello fellow Brandon aficionados! I just came into possession of the Mistborn Wiki, and as it was mainly active 10 years ago it is pretty outdated. I would love some help adding content, and livening up the discussions(which tbh are much easier to use that the 17ths)!

Or trapped in a silver box? Just finishing up the last of the Cosmere, and getting to the more obscure stories

This topic is simply to talk about criticisms or thing you think Brandon Sanderson could have done better in the Mistborn saga. This includes Era 1, Era 2, and Secret History. No Cosmere spoilers if you can help it, but if it helps your point then go ahead.

TLDR version, Most of Nightblood's initial investiture was from Ruin (but actually Harmony), rather than Endowment. There's a few wob's that I'm looking at here. First, there's a wob that Nightblood started out with more investiture than 1000 breaths would account for, then there's a wob that Nightblood is connected to Ruin in some way. The third wob stated that Harmony had to do something with Ruin's extra investiture to keep it in balance with Preservation. The final wob related is that Nightblood has been to more worlds than Roshar and Nalthis. So my theory is that Nightblood wasn't actually created on Nalthis, but on Scadrial. We know (from yet another wob) that Vasher and Shashara were worldhoppers before creating Nightblood, so it isn't impossible that they'd been to Scadrial. One reason they might have tried to make Nightblood on Scadrial is that they might have belived that (incorrectly) that the metal on Scadrial contained investiture. Harmony knew that he had too much of Ruin's investiture, and had to get rid of some, so helped invest nightblood (probably without them realizing) while it was being created. A possible reason for him to do this would be his shardic future sight. The most popular cosmere timelines don't quite fit this theory, but I wasn't able to find any wob that actually ruled out my crazy theory. Maybe I missed a wob somewhere, or a line in warbreaker that disproves my theory, or maybe I misunderstood something, but if I'm not, this theory accounts for the mystery of Nightblood's extra investiture, and Harmony's missing investiture.

Ok, so I have been working on a mistborn movie soundtrack, but only have a few songs so far... 1. 42-coldplay 2. Death and all his friends-coldplay 3. Rush of blood to the head-coldplay 4. No suprises-radiohead Give suggestions here! And they will (most likely) be put on my spotify playlist! I also have my sanderfan playlist and my wax and wayne roadtrip playlist! I need suggestions for all of them!!!!! link to my profile which has the playlist: Spotify – BellaWhite

Originally I thought allomancy was the art of preservation, hemalurgy was ruin's, and feruchemy was just kind of there. Later I read something that said allomancy was ruins magic due to it destroying the metal used which made sense to me because hemalurgy was a cosmere-wide thing. Now I've come around to thinking that feruchemy is purely preservation, hemalurgy is wholly from ruin, and then allomancy is the combination of the two. It preserves the user and destroys the metal kind of a thing. This would then also make sense as to why both God metals, atium and lerasium, both have to do with allomancy instead of their respective gods magic. My question now is why hemalurgy is a cosmere-wide magic when ruin is now harmony. Please also let me know if my understanding of the metallic arts is flawed in any way.

What can all you add? I want to see if we can't create a really full and fun list. Things we can imagine are possible, but haven't yet seen on the page. 1. Ferring of weight storage + mistborn powers. One could pull natural metal ore from under you in many locations to create an earthquake creating power, but you'd need to become heavy enough to be able to push them, etc. 2. High level bronze flairer or Mistborn + any weapon that damages investiture, like the fuzed use. The way they can intuit not only through blocking investiture but sense even the types of powers around and what they are doing, to even offworlder interactions with sensing kel's spren Syl, I think they'd be able to do it as easily as piercing a copper cloud, and in this coming cold war between them, i feel mistings or more with these tools hunting the spren in fights is dirty indeed, and a lot more practical and easy than having to use the sand like they did in stormlight. It would be ak instinctual radar they could practically shoot at. 3) Feruchemy weight manipulation + wind runner lashing. That's a doozy, lash something like 5000 times heavier than it should be, but with 4x the gravity? With what can be done if these two were on the same side for a fight... That might be mountain moving, lol. Just need to do it in the right timing combo. I also feel this combo would also be a trick to get people space bound very easily. 4) Hemalurgy + spren connection. It cuts a piece of the soul out even the points it's invested, ie, investiture and steals it for itself. Since the connection to Dalinar's spren was almost stolen in the same way by the herald, might it be able to steal the connection to the spren itself? But like all Hemalurgy, it might be impossible in a fight with the moving parts, but if the opportunity was there, and you figured out the metals or placement.... Wow. I think it should be conceivably possible? I'm imagining spikes that force a bond to a certain spren... Might as even this be part of the terrible spren experiments in the last stormlight book? 5) Imagine a windrunner or edge dancer burning atium? I feel that might be pretty much as good in most cases to a mistborn with it. Already some of the most agile and hard to hit targets becoming next level. Tbh, I almost feel if as in the last wax series it becomes easier to make a thing that makes the Mistborn powers, the forces of Roshar might also steal that and do that too. And then taking spren, etc. I could see it becoming a very mixed bag of competitors over the long haul .

OK BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING - I KNOW IT SEEMS WEIRD AND NOT LIKE SCADRIAL AT ALL AT FIRST GLANCE but its because north is in upper right corner, i hope now it looks better So, i know its not 100% accurate, but i had this vague idea of map with the final empire as a coin pulled/pushed by 2 allomancers for a long time and just had to make it (not sure if it looks like it meant to tho) I guess i just wanted to ask what do you guys think about it, does it make sense? do you like the result? Should i change something? I will post pictures post adding color (i mean, pouring coffe and tea all over it) tomorow but i couldnt resist myself, i had to show it already

Greetings, my name is Breeze. If you have found your way here, you have probably heard of me. You see, the problem is, any time someone recognizes me, they ask me one question or another, and that leads to me to explaining the same things to many different people. That is far too much effort, so I have created this space for all of your mistborn queries. Just ask me a question, and we will see If I get around to answering it.

I'm mostly mentioning him because of the way he directs fight scenes.

Is Sixteen (the one in Lasting Integrity Shallan thinks at first thinks is Restares) Spook, he is Scadrian (there’s a WOB for this but since I’m new here I can’t put the link it’s in YouTube Stream 5, #55), he seems to be using cadmium and duralumin to jump into the future and he appears at chapter 75 of ROW and chapter 76 is called Harmony. PS: I’m new to the forum, I already posted something similar on Reddit but I haven’t found a similar post here.

Would that work based only on the way he directs action scenes?

The common concensous of the amount of Mistings for every Mistborn is 1 to 18 in Era 1, based on WoA stating Straff had 18 misting children out of an unknown number. However, that is not completely accurate. A more accurate description would be 1 Mistborn to every 18 mistings of the known types. Since Straff’s bastards were kept secret, I find it extremely unlikely any of them would’ve been tested for metals known only to the Steel Ministry. Given that there are 8 possible Mistings that couldn’t be easily tested for, it’s reasonable to assume that at least one of Straff’s kids was a stealth Misting. In fact, Elend himself could’ve been a Misting of almost any unknown metal . The only ones that would be potentially noticeable are gold, electrum and Atium, as those metals could probably breach the Spiritual Realm if Elend had lerasium and a natural ability. Given these facts, we can still assume 1:18 is an accurate minimum ratio, but the real number is probably higher. Of course, the 1:18 ratio is more useful for estimating how many active Mistings there were in Era 1 (though not all, as some Ministry members used hidden metals). But even that number doesn’t represent every potential Misting at the time, especially since some stealth Mistings could find jobs with the Ministry, as Yomen did. Regardless, if anyone has estimates about how many hidden Mistings were in the Ministry or who existed all together, I’d certainly be interested in hearing them

Brandon, did you intend the assonance on "Spook" and "speculate" in Hero of Ages Part 4 chapter 46? #-)

Upon reading The Lost Metal I’ve realized that in all Era 2 books, Malatium (the eleventh metal) is not in the ars arcanum. It is in Well of Ascension and Hero of Ages. It was a very important metal, helping Vin figure how to kill TLR. So why in era 2 would a know burnable metal be left out of the ars arcanum?

What would happen if at the beginning of the first era in mistborn, Calamity appeared overhead in the sky and 1-2 years later ( I forget the exact time, it is in the reckoners book 1) random people in scadrial started to turn into epics. Anyone wanna speculate?

It's pretty clear that hemalurgy is going to be a pretty big plot point in the upcoming eras. It's apparent that it can be used as part of the process to make medallions, and unkeyed investiture through feruchemy seems like it might be a big deal. So, I'm wondering what ethics will look like when it comes to obtaining hemalurgic powers. These are my two ideas for how they might obtain spikes: -1. Dying metalborn. Perhaps a misting/ ferring who is on the verge of death would be able to consent to having their powers taken (and being killed) via a hemalurgic spike. Kind of like how organ doning works today, -2. The newly discovered methods for taking a person's powers without killing them. The method used in TLM on the captives. Maybe a healthy person could consent to losing their powers, perhaps for a decent sum of cash? What do you guys think?

Brandon has confirmed that it is possible to burn a hemalurgic spike (though it would be a painful process). However, he's implied that it wouldn't grant any extra power, as the user is not keyed to the spiritual identity of the powers granted by the spike-- essentially, the power is from another person. Would it be viable, however, to have the hemalurgic subject (whom the power is being taken from) fill an aluminum metalmind as they are being spiked, therby divesting the spike of any identity? Would that allow a hemalurgist to fully access the investiture contained within the spike? What kind of effects could be expected (If any can even be interpreted at this time) from burning an unkeyed spike as such? Sorry if that doesn't make much sense, I'm just curious as to what thoughts others might have on this subject.

What makes someone an Elantrian is their connection to the Dor so couldn’t you theoretically store that connection into a metalmind? If you did this would your skin stop glowing and you can’t access the dor for as long as you’re storing? In addition, if you stored your connection into an unsealed metalmind could you then give that to someone else, and they can become an elantrian? finally what if you tap connection to the Dor when you’re already in elantrian would you be able to draw more investiture even though you can already draw an infinite amount of investiture?

So, I was just thinking about how God Metals somewhat reflect the properties of their Shard (Lerasium Connects someone to Preservation, Atium makes people into efficient killing machines) and thought of something. Harmony's God Metal is so reactive because his two halves are polarised against each other and are locked in an uneasy equilibrium, and so is pressurized in a sense, which is why it seeks to escape by reacting with something. If Harmony's Intent switches to Discord, and the two halves are no longer in equilibrium, that pressure of them straining against each other goes away. We know from a WoB that I can't find right now that a God Metal's properties can change over time if the Vessel changes; could the same be true for a shift in Intent and the nature of the Shard? Once Harmony becomes Discord, could Harmonium (Discordium?) become less or even unreactive, and therefore be used to finally test out its Allomantic, Feruchemical, and Hemalurgiv properties? What are your thoughts?