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  1. Several months ago I posted a theory on what the surges of Cohesion and Tension do. Here is a link to that post, but I'll sum it up below: Cohesion: Weaken, or even dissolve the intermolecular bonds within a substance. Tension: Strengthen the bonds within a substance However, this theory has a major problem: the actual force of cohesion (wikipedia page) holds substances together, while in my theory Cohesion breaks them apart. Also, my idea for the Surge of Tension doesn't have much to do with what Tension actually is. (and the Coppermind page says that it alters the stiffness of an object.) So, here is my new theory for what the Surges of Cohesion, Division, and Tension do: Cohesion: Strengthen the intermolecular/atomic bonds within a substance or object. Example uses: - Create a wall of solid air by strengthening the bonds between the air molecules. - Make your armor virtually impregnable by strengthening the metallic bonding. Tension: Make a substance stiffer--increase its tension Example uses: - Stiffen a carpet, allowing people to walk on it--and then when they've fallen for your trap, release it, and watch them fall into your strategically located pit. - Walk on water by increasing its surface tension Division: Weaken, or even dissolve the bonds that hold an object together. The opposite of Cohesion. Example uses: - Weaken the intermolecular bonds that hold your enemies together, and watch them dissolve into piles of sludge. - Destroy the bonds that hold a wall together, allowing you to walk right through. That's my new theory. Please reply with feedback, speculation, and/or possible uses for these powers.
  2. I was re-reading WoR recently, and I was troubled by a question that popped up: namely, why did Syl "die" when she did? For those who haven't read it in a while, we are given to understand that Kaladin's uncertainty about what is right and wrong--as well as his involvement in the potential assassination of Elokhar--caused his bond with Syl to weaken. This led to his powers becoming intermittent, as well as Syl reverting to a non-bonded personality. However, the scene in which Syl actually "dies" is odd. It occurs when Kaladin is rushing to save Dalinar and prevent a disaster. He is PROTECTING. He is being a Radiant. So why is that the moment when his bond broke and Syl died? At first, I thought it was simply for dramatic presentation. By this point, Kaladin had already manifested his ability to fly, so dropping him off a cliff wasn't very dramatic--unless he was put in a position where he couldn't fly. However, later on, I think I discovered another answer. When Kaladin is in the process of "reviving" Syl while protecting Elokhar, he overhears an argument between Syl and the Stormfather. The Stormfather is attempting to forbid Syl from returning to Kaladin and Syl is screaming back at him and Syl says something important. She says something along the lines of "You cannot stop it if he says the words," implying, I believe, that he could stop the bond up to a certain point. Given this, as well as the comment the Stormfather says to Dalinar on the battlefield ("A daughter disobeys") and evidence that the Stormfather has sort of cracked in the head following the death of Tanavast, I believe that Syl's "death" was less due to Kaladin's uncertainty and more cause by the Stormfather actually breaking the bond at a moment he knew would likely result in Kaladin's death. Thoughts anyone? I might be reading too much into this, but the timing of it all really bothered me.
  3. The Everstorm has come. Heralds and Voidbringers alike are returning. The Vengeance Pact has broken, shattered like the Plains themselves. Some Highprinces flee, returning to their princedoms, trying to prepare as best they can. Others rally to Dalinar’s call, fighting their way across the near impassable Plains to the Oathgate, and Urithiru. Your small group once belonged to Highprince Thanadal’s camp, but now you are searching desperately for the Oathgate, hoping against hope that you arrive before you succumb to the elements. Bound together by adversity, you would like to believe you can trust each other. Not all is as it seems, however. Trouble has been drawn to your expedition like rotspren to a wound. Bridges collapse, chulls die; your progress has been hindered left and right. And it’s beginning to seem as if it might not all be coincidence… Factions: Roles: Mechanics: Welcome to LG13! Sign-ups are starting now, and will end on July 13th, at 11:00 PM CDT. (This will also be the regular roll-over time.) Check back to this post fairly often; I'll try to keep an up-to-date player list, as well as rule clarifications and links to various write-ups. If anything comes up, or you've got any questions about the Fair Play Rules, (which you should probably go give a read, if you haven't already) the impartial mod for this game will be Little Wilson. Feel free to ask any questions you might have, and if you're interested in being part of the Spec Doc, just send me a PM. Player List: Sani (The Only Joe) - Lighteyes who once scribed for Dalinar Kholin. Justin (Peng the Just) - Former slave. Sheon Idris (Seonid) - Selish Worldhopper. Ableah Edr (Haelbarde) - Woefully without description. Another Selish Worldhopper, of a clan of Selish Worldhoppers. Etam (Metacognition) - Scout. Madon (Mailliw73) - Crem collector. Bartholomew the Blind (Bort) - midget barbomancer/Worldhopper. The Roszo (Renegade) - Herdazian who is determined to be more impressive than his glowing cousin. Adamir (Adamir) - Darkeyes who is convinced he's from another world. Seixa (phattemer) - Yet another Selish Worldhopper,* and once (pseudo-)Priest of Shu-Korath. Kip Sturm (Kipper) - Smart Alec Woefully without description. Ace (Macen) - Delusional man with a tiny hammer, believes that he's a Brightlord and a Radiant. Jain (Lightsworn Panda) - A panda. In a desolate wasteland. (Maybe he's Thanadal's exotic Shin pet?) Em C. Palah (Emerald101) - Emuli potter. (Needs Ace's hammer.) Citrona Vinid (Shallan) - Scadrian-Elantiran Worldhopper and noble who will not be questioned. Wannan (Herowannabe) - Darkeyed soldier. Alive, and assumed to be immortal, seeing how he isn't dead. Eradin (eramit) - Best darkeyed spearman in Thandal's army. Wol (Araris Valerian) - Old ardent who might know how to spell his own name. Findilti Findilt (idolevy) - Delusional man who thinks he's a Knight Radiant. Orlok (OrlokTsobodai) - Woefully without description. Plurn Burn (Feligon) - Engineer who is woefully ignorant of fabrials. Dow (dowanx) - Woefully without description. Eo (Spooky Eowyn) - Apparently Thaylen with fake eyebrows. May or may not be a Selish Worldhopper. Akirsefatafesrika (Bridge Boy) - Blasphemous pretend soldier. Smeagol (leiftinspace) - Obsessive midget Universehopper. Kazaaakplethkilik (Paranoid King) - Supposedly famous thief and Worldhopper. Alvonoha (Alvron) - Ardent, and owner of a strange cat. Catquisitor!?! Cla (Clanky) - Horneater who loves drinking contests. Torren (twelthrootoftwo) - Recalcitrant conscript, and spy for Roion. *Don't ask why there are so many Selish Worldhoppers, despite the danger involved in traversing the Selish and Rosharan Cognitive Realms. It's complicated. F.A.Q.s: 1. Why does Progression come last in the Order of Actions? Progression comes last in the Order of Actions because you are not meant to be able to use it to protect yourself, and I don't want people working around that. Additionally, as Progression is a healing power, it makes logical sense for it to occur after the kill has been made, so there is something to heal. 2. Will Division and the Eliminator Kill be distinguishable in the write-up? Are people saved by Progression revealed in the write-up? Yes they will. However, in the case of Progression, it is only made known that someone was saved from a kill, not who was saved. This holds true for players saved by Abrasion and Tension. (Progression will be distinguishable from kills blocked by Abrasion or Tension, though.) 3. Which actions will players be informed of if they are targeted by them? They will be informed of Division, the Diagramist Kill, Progression (if it saves them from a kill), Illumination, Transportation (if it successfully redirects an action) and Adhesion (if it successfully blocks an action, although this will be indistinguishable from action failure for other reasons). 4. Does someone with Transformation have to specify whether they are looking for a player's Alignment or Role? Yes, you will have to specify which you're looking for. If someone forgets to specify, I'll flip a coin to see which they get. Quick Links:
  4. I was just thinking, and based off of personality alone, I'd think that Lopen would be a Willshaper. I'm not sure, though, so I figured to make this into a topic so that experts that aren't biased could debate it out, too. What do you guys think that Lopen will end up as?
  5. I'm working on a new theory, but there's a needed reference that eludes me. I could swear that I read an interview, Q&A, AMA or signing report with Brandon in which he stated that the First Ideal of the Knights Radiant ("Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination") constituted the major theme of the Stormlight Archive series. However, for the life of me I can't find this anywhere. Am I crazy? Does anyone else remember Brandon making such a statement? Can anyone help me find the reference I'm seeking?
  6. Hello! Just joined the site today as i just finished WoR!! Glad to see there is such an active and passionate fanbase for Sanderson's books! Here's my question/thoughts: So why do I see so many people saying Skybreakers don't have spren? Maybe I am completely missing something obvious so forgive me if that is the case. For starters, Syl makes a comment to Kaladin concerning the difference between Windrunners and Skybreakers, quote: "Sylphrena, an honorspren, mentioned to Kaladin that "Laws don't matter. Whats right matters." Highspren, and through them, the Skybreakers, judge and dispense justice according to the letter of the law and what may make logical sense to them" (17th shard wiki)" I remember Syl talking about the difference between how Highspren and Honorspren distinguish what should/should not be done. To me this all implies Skybreakers have Highspren. Also, when Szeth meets Nale, Nale asks him to join the Skybreakers. Then Nale throws him a shard blade and the blade seemingly talks to him. Again, I feel this indicates it is a spren. Would love to get clarification on all of this! Cheers!
  7. Hey all, first-time poster, but I had a theory about Spren and the 'Secret that broke the Knights Radiant' So, on the back cover of WoR it says "It is the nature of the magic. A broken soul has cracks into which something else can be fit. Surgebindings, the powers of creation themselves; they can brace a broken soul, but they can also widen its fissures" And somewhere in WoK or WoR, it says that the number of people who bond with spren increases right before a Desolation. Think about this for a second; The people we see in Dalinar's Vision of the Recreance (Windrunners etc. abandoning their oaths and shardblades/plate) were full knights. Kaladin, after swearing 3 ideals, gets to use Syl as a Shardspear/weapon. We learned that all shardblades are spren, living or dead (excluding blades like Szeth's) The question is, why would these Knights, who had bonded with their spren, probably having a good relationship with them like Shallan/Kaladin have with Pattern/Syl, abandon their oaths, KILL their spren buddies, and walk away? What IS the secret that broke them? Here's where theorizing comes in. We know that a person has to be 'broken' to allow a Nahel Bond (see back cover quote), and that more people bond to spren before a Desolation. Chances are, people aren't suddenly becoming more attractive to spren. I think the spren, acting on their nature left from Honor's splintering, believe it to be honorable to save mankind by giving them surges. To do so, they are forcing bonds onto people. Example 1, Shallan. She was terrified by the symbol-headed Cryptics that followed her around until she said her first truth and went into shadesmar (soulcasting the goblet). I realize she had already bonded partially, but I think that her broken household may also have been inluenced by spren or some other force (Her father's hate is unnatural, don't remember the WoB, but I know he said it wasn't just him) Example 2: Jasnah. In the beginning of WoR, she's freaking out about the whole 'backwards-shadow' thing. Then, abunch of spren attack her, forcing her into shadesmar, where she fights back, and eventually bonds with Ivory. This, to me, is the most overt example we have of spren forcing a bond. Example 3: Lift. She grew up in Rall Elorim, City of Shadows. I think we have further WoB somewhere saying that there is some nasty spren-like stuff going on there. Furthermore, Wyndle says this "I wanted to pick a distinguished Iriali matron. A grandmother, an accomplished gardener. But no, the RIng said we should choose you. 'She has visited the Old Magic,' they said. 'Our mother has blessed her,' they said. 'She will be young, and we can mold her,' they said." emphasis added Example 4: Kaladin. I think this might actually be the odd one out. Syl left, she said, without permission from the honorspren leadership in shadesmar. She truly was simply attracted to his honorable life. Finally, we know from Jasnah's return at the end of WoR that the spren in shadesmar actually have civilization. "It's been a long time since the spren had to deal with someone alive" pg 1078 and also the earlier quote from Wyndle. It's been mentioned a couple of times in the books that spren want a bond with humans because it gives them intelligence. But, they have civilization in shadesmar. they already are intelligent. So why do they really want the bond? Feel free to rip it to shreds
  8. Hello everyone, I'm new. No, my name isn't new, but you may know me as Szeth-Son-Neturo. So, now to the discussion... I prefer Willshapers, based off of their power descriptions. Wouldn't it be awesome to pass through objects and teleport? They can change the molecular physics of things with their minds and Elsecall. That seems pretty boss to me. What are your guys' favorite types of Knights Radiant? I'll probably end up relocating this soon...
  9. I just found out the other day that Shalash is Jezrien's daughter. The coppermind wiki is awesome. As cool as it is, that just had me wondering about all sorts of other things. I tried finding some other answers, but didn't come across much, and wanted to know if I'm just missing something... Do we know anything/have any other theories about the implications this has for the rest of the Heralds? It seems like a Father/Daughter relationship is something that's too significant to be a one-off fun fact. Is it possible there's a Mother/Son, or Husband/Wife, or Siblings among the Heralds? Does this have any impact on how the KR work with each other? Jezrien and Shalash don't share any attributes (I thought maybe they would have one in common), but since they don't, are their attributes particularly complimentary to one another? Or perhaps more opposite. If I remember correctly, Honorspren and Cryptics don't exactly get along, and yet, they're the spren of a Windrunner and Lightweaver. Or is it Father/Daughter like the KR were considered "brotherhoods". Is it assumed that this is an actual, biological connection? When I found this out, I assumed that Shalash was born, grew up, and then she and her father became Heralds at the same time. I was also thinking it would be possible perhaps for her to have taken her mother's place as a Herald once Shalash grew up. Basically, I have a ton of questions and I feel like there are a lot of implications this one thing could have for the rest of the Heralds and the dynamics of the whole group. If Taln was related to one of them, if he was particularly special to one of them, how could they leave him behind? If he was special to someone, and it's possible that the "Taln" in the books is not actually Taln, could it be the family that abandoned him?
  10. So, I lost a bet, and I need to create an order of Knights Radiant. From scratch. Which is FUN. The Spren of this order are the Sovereignspren, and the Theme of the order is Leadership, distinct from the Leadership of the Bondsmmiths in that the Bondsmiths are like Admirals, whereas these guy would be more like the Captains of particular ships. They also serve as liaisons to Vanilla Kings and organizations, and preform the wondrous and exciting task of herding the cats known as the Knights Radiant in the direction of the enemy. They're also handy scapegoats for the other orders when things go less than well, but that's neither here nor there. Essentially, they are Radiants who specialize in being NCOs/Junior Officers, while the Bondsmiths are General Officers or Flag Officers. They also serve as skilled advisors or whatever to vanilla armies when the situation demands it. I have no idea for the Divine Attributes. In any case, I've got the Oaths worked out, mostly and they are, in no particalar order beyond the first: 1. LBDSBWJBD 2. I shall set to right the wrongs of the world. 3. I shall not deny truth, even if it is painful to me. 4. I shall lead others to create a better world. 5. I shall stand in vigil against the darkness of man. The Oaths are intentionally broad, so as to allow them to work with the other orders. On paper. Sometimes it even worked. In any case, their Surges are Gravitation and Transformation, because they are the coolest becase they are the only ones we know anything about becaue they are thematically appropriate. What I need to figure out is the mechanics for their soulcasting (And their name). Lightweavers tell their spren a truth (forcing them to confront unpleasant aspects of themselves) and Elsecallers close their eyes (sacrificing their sight while in use) to Soulcast. Sanderson says prices for magic is always good, so I'm trying to think of a good mechanic and appropriate cost for their Soulcasting? Ideas?
  11. When Gavilar tells Szeth to tell Dalinar to find the most important words a man can say, I think he was talking about the oaths of the Knights Radiant. Evidence: Gavilar was trying to return the Voidbringers and according to Nalan the arrival of the Radiants brings the return of the Voidbringers. The Oaths are the most important words a man can say: they make you to a Radiant It worked: Dalinar studied The Way of Kings and tried to return the Knights Radiant.
  12. A color pencil/digital art of Kaladin Stormblessed, Captain of Bridge Four, and his faithful Syl...

    © Hannah Williams 2014

  13. I'll be posting units here whenever I manage to come up with halfway decent stats. Commentary and criticism are not only welcome but requested. And probably necessary. First up are Devastator Marines Dustbringers Cost: 100 Points. Unit Composition: 4 Dustbringers, 1 Dustbringer Sergeant Stats: WS: 4 BS: 4 S: 4 T: 4 W:1 A: 1 Ld: 8 (9 Sergeant) Wargear: Power Armor Bolterguns Bolt Pistols Frag Grenades Krak Grenades Signum (Sergeant) Special Rules: Immortal Words Brotherhood of Psykers (Mastery Level 1) Combat Squads Psyker: Dustbringer Squads generate their powers from the Pyromancy, Telekensis, and Dustbringer (Division/Friction) Disciplines Options: May take up to 5 additional Dustbringers...............20 pts/model Up to 4 Dustbringers may take Weapons From the Heavy Weapons List For every 2 extra Dustbringers purchased, 1 additional Dustbringer may buy Heavy Weapons The Squad may upgrade to Mastery Level 2.........30 pts The Dustbringer Sergeant may take melta bombs.Free The Space Marine Sergeant or Veteran Sergeant may replace his boltgun with a chainsword ............................................................Free The Space Marine Sergeant or Veteran Sergeant may take items from the Melee Weapons and/or Ranged Weapons lists................Free The unit may select a Drop Pod, Rhino, or Razorback as a Dedicated Transport. Special Rules: Immortal Words: Not really sure what this will do yet, but it needs to replace Chapter Tactics and And they Shall Know No Fear, so it better be pretty good. Dustbringer Powers (Under Construction): 1. Spatial Funnel (Warp Charge 1): Channeling the power of Division to split space, a tunnel is created that make it easier to aim weapons at range. Increases the units Ballistic Skill by one, and increases the range of its shooting attacks by 50%. 2. Divide and Burn (Warp Charge 2): Shooting Witchfire. May use either of 2 fire modes listed below. For every 3 (or 4) models in the squad, an additional shot is fired using the same profile. • Blaze: Assault 1 S5 AP3 Large Blast 24'' Range • Lance: Assault 1 S10 AP2 36'' Range
  14. I have developed a new theory, one accounting for the purple chart in Way of Kings that is so similar to the Radiant chart. I call it: The Knights Absorbent The Voidbinding equivalent of the Knights Radiant Premise The Way of Kings comes with two similar chart illustrations included within. One is a chart detailing the ten Surges, and the glyphs for the ten orders of Knights Radiant, who are Surgebinders. It is highly likely the purple chart corresponds to the Voidbinders. On the chart (seen below), we have ten corresponding icons to the Surges, and ten corresponding Glyphs for the Orders. Thus, there must be equivalents to the Surges and the Knights Radiant - enter the Knights Absorbent. Logic The term given to the users of Surges are called Surgebinders. Why are they called Surges? When a Surgebinder activates their abilities, they begin by concentrating Stormlight and gathering power. This high concentration of power leaks from them, and they can release it through Surgebinding. The Surge in Surgebinding is this concentration of power release - the power is Surging. We know that the opposing force is called Voidbinding. It stands to reason then, that the opposite of the ten Surges would be the ten Voids. Indeed, we can see that the glyphs for the Voids are oppositely symmetrical as compared to the Surges. If Surges are an increased concentration, it makes sense that Voids are the opposite - a lack, an area of decreased concentration. We can logically see then that Voidbinding creates a low density area where Surgebinding created a high density area. The Knights Radiant earned their name by their Radiance. Nothing is more sensible. They Radiate light and power, because of how a concentration works - it wants to diffuse into areas of lower concentration (e.g. everything else in this case) Voidbinding then, would have the opposite effect. Nearby concentrations of power would seem to be drawn into the Voidbinder, it would seem that instead of Radiating, they Absorb. The ten Glyphs of the Knights Radiant demand an equal and opposing order of Knights from the Voidbinders ten glyphs. If the Knights Radiant are termed such because they radiate, then we must call this opposing order the Knights Absorbent. But without the Heralds to model themselves after, any spren with which they bonded would have no shape on which to base their Shardblade, no form on which to base their Shardplate. No, they could not have made Shardplate or Blade at all - they must look to the weaponry which defines their order. The Knights Absorbent and then spren then, must be equipped with a deadly weapon, well known to many, which comes from an item with an absorbency like no other: The cardboard tube sword taken from a roll of paper towels. This weapon has a long history, of being used both in mighty wars and conflicts, and by some of the most renowned duelists in history. It is truly a weapon with an unimpeachable past, with a Bounty of techniques passed down from father to son through the ages. But what of Shardplate? The Knights Absorbent must have armor as well, but not hard armor to stop a blow - no, they must have armor that absorbs all impacts, armor that can take any punishment given to them, armor which has been associated with cardboard tube swords for eons. Yes, it must be pillow armor. There is no other option, and the evidence is clear. Below, we display an artist's rendition of the fearsome Knights Absorbent, which we will likely not see for several books. Beware of spoilers! And beware of nightmares, for their depiction is truly the stuff of terror. Radiants be warned, your doom is at hand! Sources: All Evidence comes directly from the purest of Logic and the Gospel of Brandon, may the Everstorm Reign forever.
  15. He has a shardblade! I've had my profile picture since I signed up to the forum, and I did not put it together until now. He might even be a proper Knight Radiant - he speaks an ideal/reaches a personal realisation, then summons a blade and goes all Skybreaker on everyone! His oath moments are centred around either love or self-actualisation, generally in the context of relationships, so he might be the opposite of a Skybreaker. Maybe a Truthwatcher, since he spends so much of the story completely misguided about his own importance/effect on others, then gains his stormlight (coin?) processing abilities when he begins to approach a very important truth... I don't think there's any spoilers in there, but I'm used to posting in the Cosmere forums, so let me know if there's anything amiss.
  16. The world is trying to come to an end...The Everstorm has arrived, and is transforming the world's Parshmen into Stormform Voidbringers. Taravangian seeks to unite the world under his own rule, and it appears he believes the new Knights Radiant to be an obstacle to that path. The Ghostbloods have already attempted assassination against one of them, and seeks to corrupt another. The Sons of Honor have taken the man who refers to himself as Taln, and will soon be a part of Urithiru. Riots in Kholinar, a plague in the Purelake, the Skybreakers executing proto radiants. There's certainly a lot of problems that the new Knights Radiant have to reconcile, but what is the biggest challenge facing them? I believe it to be themselves. The Knights Radiant, as they are forming now, may shatter before they can become a cohesive unit. Internal politics and squabbling could be their undoing long before they need to face any of those challenges. Let's take a brief look at each Radiant to see what problems we can expect in the next book. The Windrunner-Kaladin At the end of WoR, Kaladin seems to have a much tighter grip on his own problems, but that isn't to say that he lacks for conflict. First, Kaladin is heading back to Hearthstone, which could stir up feelings about Roshone, who is one of the only sources of unresolved feelings for Kaladin. Assuming that he maintains his self-control, and doesn't decide Roshone would function better as a punching bag, It could still cause problems-with Dalinar. During the prison visit, it is revealed that Dalinar is the reason that Roshone came to Hearthstone. It wouldn't take much of a leap to place all the blame at Dalinar's feet. The reason Kaladin isn't a surgeon. The reason Tien was conscripted and died. The reason Kaladin ended up killing Helaran. The reason Amaram killed Kaladin's men. The reason that Amaram is still alive and plotting. The reason Kaladin became a slave. The list goes on. Notable quote: "Though it seems that such mercy often ends up serving the cousins of powerful lighteyes, and rarely someone lowly." The Lightweaver-Shallan Shallan is something of a Wild Card for the new Knights Radiant. Unlike Kaladin and Dalinar, she has no official position in the Alethi government, nor will she accept one IMO. So at the end of the book, Shallan is left with a choice of how to handle the Ghostbloods, who is going to deliver her brothers to her safely, and is owed a debt by her family. She also got quite a bit chummy with Iyatil. How is Jasnah going to react when she returns and discovers that Shallan is involved with the Ghostbloods. Will Jasnah even stop to listen if Shallan is only doing it to infiltrate them and learn what they know? Will Jasnah even care? This is an organization that has sent assassins after her, and Shallan has already deceived Jasnah once. Then there's her budding friendship with Kaladin. Shallan is going to find out that Kaladin killed Helaran. Kaladin even notices the amount of anger in her voice in the midst of a Highstorm. He then continues to hide the truth from her. That will certainly form a schism between the two. Notable quote: "Let Shallan Davar be a Radiant, conformist and noble. Let Veil come to us." . . ."And let her find truth." The Bondsmith-Dalinar Dalinar is going to have his hands full dealing with the aftermath of Adolin's actions, which will be quite a problem in itself, along with Kaladin's problem with him, but what about Dalinar's problems with Kaladin? Kaladin conspired to kill the king, Dalinar's nephew. He never came forward with the information, and then gave one of his co-conspirators s full set of Shards that was given to him by the Kholin family. Those Shards then leave Kholinar's control when Moash defects to Taravangian. Kaladin is mouthy, disrespectful, ruined their chance to take Sadeas out in a legal fashion, which makes him indirectly responsible for Adolin's actions. Also, how is Jasnah going to respond when she finds out Dalinar is dating her mother? It's hinted that Jasnah was closer to Gavilar than she was to Navani, and while she's close to Dalinar as well, it could form a rift between Navani and Jasnah, which in turn would hurt their relationship. Once they both get over the whole "you're supposed to be dead" thing. Add in the fact that his bonded spren directly forbid Syl to bond to Kaladin, along with the fact the Stormfather harbors a deep hatrid for humanity. Notable quote- "I gave you a position no darkeyes has ever held in this army. I let you into conferences with the king, and I listened when you spoke. Do not make me regret those decisions soldier." The Truthwatcher-Renarin I think Renarin's troubles all will stem from Adolin. Firstly, there is Adolin's actions with Sadeas. Renarin will most likely hold Dalinar and Elhokar directly responsible for whatever happens to Adolin. After everything Sadeas has done to their family, I think Renarin, as has been demonstrated by their relationship, will stand directly by Adolin. If Adolin is executed, Renarin will never forgive them. If Adolin is exiled, Renarin will go with him. Whatever rift forms between Dalinar and Adolin because of Sadea's death, it will also form between Dalinar and Renarin. Then there's Shallan-Adolin's girlfriend. She doesn't seem to be very fond of Renarin, and mistreats him during the final battle. If that kind of treatment of Renarin continues, it will form a rift between Adolin and Shallan as well, which will distance her from the Kholin family. Notable quote- "Someone shut him up." Shallan snapped. "Gag him if you have to." The Elsecaller-Jasnah First of all, there's the whole 'presumed dead' thing. Awkward. But the real problems that Jasnah is going to have is when her family finds out about her assassins. Dalinar surely will not approve of that sort of behavior, and how will Elhokar react when he finds out that the target Jasnah was considering having assassinated is his wife? There's also the matter of her heresy? The fact that Jasnah is a heretic will not endear the world to the new Knights Radiant, especially considering their already tarnished reputation. This could distance the ardentia from the Knights Radiant, which would provide a huge blow to public opinion. Notable quote- "An odd night, Brightness, to be engaging in treason." The Skybreaker-Szeth-Son-Naturo-Son-Vallano Do I even need to go into this one? How will Dalinar react when he finds out one of his new Radiants is the man who killed his brother, and tried to kill him? Kaladin will probably have the "stab first ask questions later" mentality. For that matter, will Szeth even be joining the other Radiants? It seems unlikely that Nalan would continue to kill Surgebinders with the Desloation already started, but who's to know for sure? If he does join, and Dalinar and the other do reconcile his past, this is probably the most devastating public relations event that could happen to the Radiants. The famous Assassin in White a member of the Radiants. The accusations wouldn't be far behind. They use their powers to destabilize nations. Dalinar killed his brother to seize control through the puppet of his nephew. And that's just being mild with rumor. Notable quote- "But I'm not here for him, Highprince," ... "I'm here for you." The Edgedancer-Lift Lift probably is the least tumultuous of the bunch, but getting her alliance is also going to be the most difficult. Lift probably won't even care to join them, given the hints we have about the temperament of the Edgedancers. So besides having to worry about finding her, they'll have to convince her to join them as well. Sounds starvin' difficult to me. Notable quote- "It is unfortunate they were always so concerned with small-minded things, while ignoring those of greater import. It appears you share their temperament. You have become one of them."
  17. I did a quick search to see if this has come up, and couldn't find anything directly... My questions and thoughts have turned toward the restrictions on Syl and Kaladin's bond - it won't function, to the point of killing Syl, if Kaladin refuses to protect someone/decides to outright murder a fool. I'm wondering if a similar restriction exists upon Skybreakers. Does their bond degrade when they decide to NOT kill? If they find someone guilty, do they have to kill, or is there a choice within their bond to stay execution? I know that the question of "Were those REAL Skybreakers in WoR?" will come up at some point, but I'm thinking of what we know of the Skybreaker Radiants, while considering all the data available. (So no getting too bogged down) What do you think?
  18. Welcome back to Around the Cosmere, where we occasionally talk round of the news. It's been a while, but we're back on Hoid's Shadesmar Doomship Zeppelin (totally a real thing), and he's just messy, so we were delayed. That's totally what happened. First things first, Brandon has answered questions about The Way of Kings on Tor.com. Some are writing related, and not much cosmere, but we did discover there have been several Rosharan worldhoppers we have already met. Pretty neat! Interesting Theoretical Discussions We had two very interesting topics about Investiture and its role. One is about its possible caustic nature, by Terisen, and Moogle continued the discussion with his topic on Investiture consuming other Investiture. Kurkistan also summarized everything we know about his most favorite subject: time bubbles. Here's also a ludicrously long post classifying the cosmere magic systems, complete with a totally unnecessary 3D plot you can move around! And want a head-scratching puzzle? Discuss what is apparently the "biggest RAFO" yet! Fun Stuff It looks like this should have gone under the previous heading, yes? It's a totally rational Radiant and Voidbinding theory by Tempus, but then… Well, let's just say we learn a lot about the Voidbringers, Hoid, and the Brawny Man in the discussion there. Speaking of Stormlight Archive and the Knights Radiant, what Radiant oath would you swear? Or, perhaps more hilarious, what Radiant oath would you never swear? And what Order would you belong to? And prepare yourself for the worst Stormlight pun that has ever existed. Other Things and Site Stuff In other news, Moogle has been promoted to the moderator team. You've surely seen him in the book discussions and theories, so give him a warm welcome! If you haven't been on the site recently, then something might surprise you: social groups, clans, and guilds are actually things now. There are so many for you to choose from, but you know which one you truly want to be in, of course. There may also be a new thing coming related to social groups soon, too… And you might be wondering, why did I storming link a picture of Google Maps as the article image? Well Aether made an awesome thread wondering where Sharders live, and then Quitecontrary made a map out of it. It is pretty sweet. See the full map here! Let's get more pins up there! On the forum side of things, the forum layout now has a non-cosmere category, and the mobile front page of the site sucks a lot less. That's for Around the Cosmere for now. Just because Splintercast has ended doesn't mean that you will be starved on content. There will be brand-new and returning main page segments coming your way. Stay tuned!
  19. This is a theory borne partially out of wishful thinking. As I was reading and re-reading all of the scenes where Szeth and Kaladin use their powers, it struck me that the Gravitation surge (half lashing, reverse lashing) appears far more powerful than the Adhesion surge (full lashing). Notably, we see Szeth Lash a door closed, and Kaladin Lashes rocks to a cliff face and himself to a horse. Doubtless, the surge is used more often than that, but it doesn't seem to stand up to the powers of flight, basic telekinesis, or making people fall into the sky. Realizing that Skybreakers share the Gravitation surge was rather disappointing, since I felt like it spoiled the Windrunners' thunder to share the "best" surge (and thereby the power of flight) with another order. But then I started thinking... what if each order specialized in one of their surges and the other surge is a secondary power? Windrunners should be able to do far more with the Gravitation surge, so perhaps the Skybreakers can use Gravitation, but not powerfully enough to fly, since it is not their primary power. By this logic, it stands to reason that each order's specialization would also be the surge clockwise from their order's glyph on the chart in The Way of Kings. That way, no surge specialization would be shared by two orders. The immediate problem, however, is that from what little we know of the other Knights Radiant orders, everything seems to indicate that any sort of specialization would be the surge counterclockwise from their order glyph. Lightweavers are clearly the specialists of Illumination (as their name suggests), not Transformation. From what we saw of Lift (as well as the name of the order and the epigraph describing them), Edgedancers seem gifted in Friction, not Progression. If Ym is a good representative of the Truthwatchers, they are better at Progression than Illumination. At least, that is what came most easily to him. Renarin provides inconclusive evidence, since his self-healing could also be the passive effect of holding Stormlight. Elsecallers could go either way, perhaps. We know that Jasnah is incredibly skilled in soulcasting (Transformation). She isn't too shabby at Transportation, either. Nevertheless, since it is strongly hinted that Willshapers are "explorers," the Transportation surge would logically be their domain. When asked what order he would like to be, Brandon stated that he would want to be a Windrunner so that he could fly [citation needed]. This doesn't rule out the possibility that Skybreakers can also fly and Brandon simply would prefer having Adhesion to Division, but it is the only WoB I have come across on the subject. Thoughts, notes, relevant passages that I have missed?
  20. The Recreance - why, how, and when it happened - is obviously going to play a central role in the upcoming books. We know precious little, but I would like to propose a simple (if outlandish) theory as to why it happened. The Knights Radiant could be mind-controlled by Odium. Yes, you read that correctly. I would like to propose that the Knights gave up their power to prevent Odium from taking them over en masse following the most recent Desolation. To properly motivate this idea, I need to lay out some facts: * The cause of the Recreance can be communicated simply * The cause must be sufficiently dangerous that almost all of the Knights gave up simultaneously * The spren would interpret these actions as a betrayal The first fact follows from the Diagram, and the fact that Taravangian could somehow use the secret to break up the new Knights. I take this to mean that he would announce whatever the secret is, and the Knights would be compelled in some way to give up their power. In particular, I think the Knights themselves have to decide to give up their own power. The second fact follows from the Feverstone Keep vision and the in-world Words of Radiance. This isn't a gradual event - suddenly, within a fairly short time window, all of the Knights give up their power. I take this to be an indication of the magnitude of the damage caused by the secret. The third fact follows directly from Jasnah, the Stormfather, and Pattern. How does this mind control work? We have seen on other worlds how a Shard can interact with damaged souls, and it isn't much of a leap to assume a similar thing can happen here. Knights are, by construction, damaged souls. Odium simply reaches in, granting him anything from direct control to simply changing viewpoints. There may be some restriction on this ability, some requisite hatred or similar that allows Odium to take hold. Thus, a particularly emotionless Knight might be able to resist Odium if she could properly banish emotion. The Skybreakers fit this well, but the other Orders don't generically have their control. Note Szeth's unnatural hatred towards the people he has killed and Kaladin's unhealthy hatred of lighteyes. Why at the particular time? I assume that the Heralds provide some sort of "prison" for Odium during their time in Damnation. When all ten Heralds are present, Odium has very little touch on Roshar. But with only one Herald present, his touch may be more drastic. With no other Voidbringers to control and only Talenel, sometime after the most recent Desolation would be a good opportunity for him. In this scenario, I imagine that the Heralds/Knights realize that this possible and move to destroy the Orders before Odium can act. Depending on Odium's speed, the execution referenced in Words of Radiance may in fact be one of the first of these case. Finally, the spren consider this a betrayal because Odium can only take over when the Knight fails to keep hatred away. Thus, the preemptive abandonment rather than fighting his influence goes against the First Ideal and everything the Knights stood for. In conclusion, without the other Heralds to guard him (or Voidbringers to distract him), Odium can take advantage of a emotionally susceptible Knight's broken soul to mind control her. When the Knights realized this, they abandoned their Oaths instead of fighting Odium's influence which to the spren was a betrayal. Closing thoughts - any theory for the Recreance has to account for the fact that all of the Knights gave up at once. Given what else we have seen, this seems like a sufficiently drastic scenario.
  21. So, my though that Cusciesh is voltron spren has now been pretty well debunked, I would like to propose a grander, more elaborate theory/thought. Based on the epigraph above, we see that there are usually 3 Bondsmiths at a time, regardless of how large other orders may be or not. It may be that the Stormfather can bond more than one Radiant at a time given his power level, but I'm not inclined to think so. In tWoK/WoR, we hear of only 3 Spren who are very large and very in charge of what they have going on. The Stormfather: proven to Nahel bond with Bondsmiths Cusciesh: definitely spren, probably related to the KR the Nightwatcher: gives the "old magic" but we don't know what that means really and presumed to be a Spren My theory is that each of the 3 bondsmiths are bonded to one of these Spren, and that in some way, these 3 spren are similar in the way that honorspren or cryptics are different. I.e. not all Honorspren are like Syl in temperment, nor all Cryptics like Pattern. I don't have a lot to back it up really, other than that there are 3 very large Spren floating around Roshar and there are only 3 Bondsmiths at a time. Only other mention of Bondsmiths shows that they had a unique ability and they alone could address the divine duties and natures of the Heralds. I think that is because they are bonded to the 3 single most powerful/knowledgeable/oldest Spren on Roshar Well, there it is... let me know your thoughts!!
  22. One of the epigraphs in Words of Radiance gave me pause when I read it. What are these squires that are mentioned? Traditionally, squires were the assistents of knights, helping them put on their armor and the like. Radiants of course, who seem to have once had a mechanism for making their armor appear and disappear, seem unlikely to need this service. But squires also were knights-in-training, awaiting an opportunity to become knights themselves. A potential hypothesis that can be drawn here is that once Radiants were accompanied by men and women who were attempting or in the process of becoming members of the Knights Radiant. I believe that there is a small glimpse of this in one of Dalinar's visions. Initially, I thought that perhaps this woman's abilities as a Surgebinder allowed her to grant her followers the ability to use a bit of Stormlight. Now, I am not so certain. She almost certainly a Releaser or Dustbringer, her Surges are Division and Abrasion. Neither of these would seem to account for such a power. These men would seem to be her squires, or at least people who could be her squires. I also believe that this is what was offered to Dalinar by Harkaylain. He couldn't promise that Dalinar would become a Radiant, but he could give him a shot by making him a squire. Now, with Lopen's abilities, and mentions of other members of Bridge Four glowing, I believe that the men of Bridge Four are now Kaladin's squires.
  23. Does any of you have any idea to which order might lopen belong to? i.e. is there any supposed theory about this. I am bringing this up because I remember reading in the words of radiance that the 'willshapers', as a whole, were decidedly odd, only joined by there common love for oddity and adventure. Also, I know i am supposed to post this in some other thread, by I am lazy...............Does anyone of you have any idea about the next Brandon Sanderson release date, and the book that will be released.
  24. What I did with my nails today. (Yes, in Poland we wear wedding ring on the right hand, the left is for regular rings.) A quick how-to is in description of the other hand photo.

    © Glyph designss are probably owned by by Brandon Sanderson, the tutorial you're welcome to use. :)

  25. My nails. I was wondering if I should tag this photo as NSFW (because, you know, safehand), but that would probably be a bit too much trolling. (Yes, here in Poland we wear wedding ring on right hand, the left is for regular rings.) If you want to have similar nails: Download the glyphs in svg format from the wiki. Scan your hand (the side with nails) and use this image as a reference to resize the glyphs (I also modified them a bit to fit the nail shape better). Make them black if you don't have a color printer or just want them black. Make a reference image showing which glyph and what color goes on which nail so you won't do any mistakes. I chose to have female Herald glyphs on right hand and male on left, but there are many other options that make sense). For black glyphs on color background: Ensure that you have nail polishes in all relevant colors (some colors can be mixed. Also, I have an irrational hatred for red nail polish, so some colors are off). You can also try color glyphs on white bg if you have a color printer. Paint your nails and let them dry. Do not use too dark colors (as I did for Windrunners and Skybreakers), pastel ones will look better. Print the glyphs. I did it on a regular black laser printer and using some kind of ecological paper I happened to have. The easier the paper soaks the paper the better as long as it doesn't jam your printer. (Print on dry paper, you'll soak it later!). I suppose normal paper would work too. Find some how-to about "newspaper nails" and use it to transfer the glyphs to your nails. I've used rum instead of rubbing alcohol (don't have any of that), lots of soaking and kept the paper on nails for about a minute + pressed for 10 seconds. It worked quite well, but some details didn't transfer and some glyphs (Windrunners!!!) got tilted or shifted. Finished!

    © Glyph designss are probably owned by by Brandon Sanderson, the tutorial you're welcome to use. :)

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