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  1. So I haven't seen any posts about this. Not that they don't exist I just haven't seen any. In all other worlds the immortality has been explained through the magic systems. The Elentrians are immortal through AonDor. the Lord Ruler use compounding to become immortal. In Warbreaker anyone above the 5th Heightening is immortal. How are the Heralds staying young after all this time. there is no lashing as of yet that allows Immortality. I doubt it was the Almighty because he is dead and the Oathpack was broken. So how are they still alive?
  2. So, story time. Today I was catching up on all threads on 17th Shard, especially ones in this board. This involved me going through RShara's wonderful Word of Brandon thread, and I saw this: Meanwhile, I go looking on my Words of Radiance term sheet for new wiki articles, because, y'know, I'm a giant nerd. So I go searching for the terms that don't have wiki articles. One near the top? Ash. And what do we have in the Prologue? This passage is way the heck more weird when you know that Ash is the nickname of Shalash. And they suspect she's getting worse. On first reading with this revelation, I want to say that the others are Heralds too, but then they are refer to, presumably, Szeth carrying "their lord's" Blade. I don't know what to think about that. However, this can't be coincidental. There are lots of mentions of "Ash's eyes" in the book, which now we know refer to Shalash thanks to that quote above. These people knew Shalash. That much is certain. EDIT: It occurs to me that the "my lord" could refer to Jezrien, as he was the King of Heralds, and Szeth holds his Honorblade.
  3. I raised this question in another thread, but thought it deserved a broader audience: Why haven't we seen any Herald spren? The Heralds are as much an idea as Honor or Cultivation. Even though the Heralds are human, one would think that through the Vorin religion they've become idealized and should have become personified by the spren. If the Stormfather and the Nightwatcher, so-called "Godspren" (at least in this Forum), personify Honor and Cultivation (at least in part), why aren't there spren personifying each of the Heralds? Or maybe there are...Can "maybe-Taln" actually be a Taln-spren that's found a human warrior to bond with? That might explain "Taln's" confusion - his spren just hasn't adjusted to the Physical Realm yet. The human host might have lost his own memories, perhaps in a western Roshar battle, since there seems to be an ongoing war there.So all he's got is his spren trying to figure "Taln"-things out on his own. I don't know whether the host's abnormally quick reflexes are natural to him or spren/Stormlight-enhanced, and I assume he would have had his own shardblade, since it's clearly neither an Honorblade or a spren-blade. Or maybe it IS Taln who's been bonded by his own spren? Not really pushing the Taln-spren idea - it requires a lot of twisting of what we know to shoehorn it into something plausible - but it does seem odd that we haven't encountered a Herald spren. Thoughts?
  4. Hey guys, first post and first topic here. I was reading all of the awesome theories here, combined with a Stormlight Archive re-read, and had an interesting thought. Tell me what you guys think. Just a heads up, I didn't exactly do my due diligence with the WoB quotes. I'm quoting mostly from memory, but if you guys think there is potential to this theory then I'll come back and flesh this out with links quotes and such. Okay, so we have WoB that, on Roshar, Nightblood behaves very similarly to Shardblades. I think there is more to it than that. I think Nightblood behaves similarly to an Honorblade. (This may already be the prevailing theory, but I don't know if there is actual WoB to that effect.) For one, Honorblades have more in common with Nightblood than they do with Shardblades. Honorblades are actual physical objects that are heavily invested; same as Nightblood. Shardblades, however, are Spren, which are mostly cognitive entities, that are mimicing the effects of Honorblades. Between Honorblades, Shardblades, and Nightblood, Shardblades are the odd ones out. There is also the obvious similarity in their destructive potential. Honorblades and Nightblood are all very powerful tools. This is the superficial similarity that everyone makes and takes for granted. After that conclusion is reached, it's easy to stop thinking about it. But what if the Honorblades made the Heralds instead of the Heralds simply being matched with the Honorblade that best suited them? In The Way of Kings CHAPTER 18: HIGHPRINCE OF WAR, there is an interesting piece of information. That sword of retribution line really caught my eye. I guess it's a "what came first, the chicken or the egg" dilemma, but what if Nalan, who's Divine Attributes are Just / Confident which could easily lead to Retribution, became that way by holding the Sword of Retribution rather than the nameless Honorblade that Nalan wields having become known as the sword of retribution simply because it was Nalan wielding it? I propose that the Honorblades are so heavily invested that they have a sort of Intent of their own, much like Shards of Adonalsium, that shapes the personality of their bearers. For example, if Jezrien and Nalan had initially been given each other's Honorblades, then perhaps Jezrien would be Just / Confident and Nalan would be Protecting / Leading. This is where Nightblood comes in. Nightblood, like Honorblades, consumes Investiture in order to fuel the powers it uses to perform its Command. I'm proposing that, on Nalthis, Honorblades would have their own Commands. In this case, "Command" is what Nalthians call "Intent." In fact, I believe Vasher explicitly describes the process of giving a Command as visualizing the intent behind the Command. In other words, endowing something with an Intent. So if, on Roshar, Nightblood is using Investiture to perform its intent, that would mean that "Destroy Evil" would translate into an unknown Primary and Secondary Divine Attribute. This is a rough draft of a theory, but I hope with some input from the community it can be fleshed out and formalized into a working theory to describe the relationship between invested objects, Intent, and Commands.
  5. What I did with my nails today. (Yes, in Poland we wear wedding ring on the right hand, the left is for regular rings.) A quick how-to is in description of the other hand photo.

    © Glyph designss are probably owned by by Brandon Sanderson, the tutorial you're welcome to use. :)

  6. My nails. I was wondering if I should tag this photo as NSFW (because, you know, safehand), but that would probably be a bit too much trolling. (Yes, here in Poland we wear wedding ring on right hand, the left is for regular rings.) If you want to have similar nails: Download the glyphs in svg format from the wiki. Scan your hand (the side with nails) and use this image as a reference to resize the glyphs (I also modified them a bit to fit the nail shape better). Make them black if you don't have a color printer or just want them black. Make a reference image showing which glyph and what color goes on which nail so you won't do any mistakes. I chose to have female Herald glyphs on right hand and male on left, but there are many other options that make sense). For black glyphs on color background: Ensure that you have nail polishes in all relevant colors (some colors can be mixed. Also, I have an irrational hatred for red nail polish, so some colors are off). You can also try color glyphs on white bg if you have a color printer. Paint your nails and let them dry. Do not use too dark colors (as I did for Windrunners and Skybreakers), pastel ones will look better. Print the glyphs. I did it on a regular black laser printer and using some kind of ecological paper I happened to have. The easier the paper soaks the paper the better as long as it doesn't jam your printer. (Print on dry paper, you'll soak it later!). I suppose normal paper would work too. Find some how-to about "newspaper nails" and use it to transfer the glyphs to your nails. I've used rum instead of rubbing alcohol (don't have any of that), lots of soaking and kept the paper on nails for about a minute + pressed for 10 seconds. It worked quite well, but some details didn't transfer and some glyphs (Windrunners!!!) got tilted or shifted. Finished!

    © Glyph designss are probably owned by by Brandon Sanderson, the tutorial you're welcome to use. :)

  7. I have a theory I'd like to throw out there for discussion. I believe that Honor made the Honorblades work for anyone that could pick them up purposefully. So that the burden of being a Herald could be passed on to others and the Oath Pact could be maintained even after one of the Heralds broke under Odium's torture. This could also potentially support the theory that the "Madman" that is currently holding that position of the Herald of War is not the original Talenel'Elin, though I'm not entirely convinced that he isn't Talenel'Elin. In addition, maybe the Honorblades are not inherently inefficient in their use of Stormlight, but that the wielder must speak something akin to the First Ideal to be awakened to Heraldom and become a better conduit for Investiture. I say these things because it seems very shortsighted of Honor to place such an important task in the hands of ten men and women, who despite being immortal, still suffer from the pains of mortal beings. So there you have it! Please discuss ~sbi
  8. I believe Brandon has said that their will be a flashback from each order of nights radiant so from this we can extrapolate. 1st set Kaladin - Windrunner 1 Shalan - Lightweaber 2 Szeth - Skybreaker 3 Eshoni - Willshapers 4 (unconfirmed but speculated willshaper) Dalanar - Bondsmith 5 2nd set (not in this order) Taln - Stonewards 6 Lift - Edgedancers 7 Jasnah - Elsecallers 8 Renarin - Truthwatchers 9 Chanarach - Dustbringers 10 (unconfirmed but known to be a 2nd herald) Although it is unconfirmed it has been speculated and i agree that Eshoni will be a willshaper leaving only the order of Dustbringers left for the 2nd herald making her Chanarach.This seems even more likely when you consider that we now have 5 male characters and 5 female characters just like the original heralds and how well Willshaper fits Eshoni who was called the Explorer on the back of the book. Could someone link me to the quote where Brandon said there would be a book for each order I couldn't find it.
  9. On the ten Essences chart on the Coppermind, There are 7 things associated with each other. Number, Gemstone, Essence, Body Focus, Soulcasting Properties, Divine Attributes, Herald. I believe there should be more. Due to the Holy number of Vorin tradition and Roshar, 10, a chart like this would have 10 Categories or Columns during the Days of the KR. 10 by 10. This chart was made in World by the Ars Arcanum Author (Khriss?) so it can be Wrong. I think we can add the specific Order of the KR onto the chart, matched to their Herald, as well as the Silver Kingdom. This way, the Chart would be More Holy, and probably closer to the in-world version. So for Number 2, Nale's row, we could add Skybreakers and Natanatan. This still leaves one more Column, unless you count the Divine attributes as two, bu t I don't think that's likely. The Capitols of each Silver kingdom could Work, or the Spren of the KR. (I'm assuming that each of the Silver kingdoms also had a specific Herald more so than others. I'm guessing Natanatan because it sounds closest to Nale.) And I apologize if someone had proposed this before, but I coulnd't find anything like it.
  10. So I was looking at the glyph for the Herald Shalash and I realized that the blade of the "sword" Looks an awful lot like a warped version of the unnamed garnet glyph. So I tested my theory out. And low and behold it seemed to work. So I decided to test it out with the other herald sword glyphs. Some needed to be warped a little more than others, but the pattern seems to hold true. I'm hoping to be able to figure out how to do a time lapse video of me editing the knights radiant glyphs and unnamed glyphs so they line up correctly with the herald glyphs.
  11. So I've been reading around the forums throwing this around in the back of my mind. I'm going against two very popular opinions, so I am ready to be blasted by arguments. Let them fly! Theory 1: Nalan is not corrupted. Theory 2: Ishar is the other Herald in the Prologue First let's set up some background information, taken from Words of Radiance (the in world one.) So right from the start, we know that Ishar was against the Surgebinders running amok. Then there's this gem from WoB. So here it's suggested that the Skybreakers are basically the enforcement of the codes that Ishar was setting up for the fledgling Knights Radiant. Another snip from WoR So Nalan only stepped in when they stopped prosecuting, according to this quote. Skip forward a large chunk of time to present day Roshar. Nalan is actively killing surgebinders, while following the law. He is keeping with his own personal philosophy, even at the risk of letting a desolation occurs, because that's what he thinks he's doing. Here is a man who is obsessed with law, to a point where he lets go of Lift to slap a minion for asking if they are above the law. So he does care about justice. He forces his own subordinate to face whatever punishment for killing a kid (I bet it's a brutal one too.) He's bringing justice to the surgebinders, because thiey could cause a desolation, but he only does it in a way that satisfies his divine attribute. "But EMTrevor" you say, "Where does Ishar fit into this?" Well we already know that Ishar was iffy about the whole Surgebinders running amok thing, and that's what's happening at the present time. All the characters and spren are adamant that they are not KR. They have no organization, and no rules, time for Ishar to destory each and every one right? But that's Nalan is doing! Unless, they are a team. So far, we have figured out that Nalan is trying to stop the desolations from happening, even if through questionable means. Let's jump back to the prologue now. Woah, so this man (IMO Ishar) and Nalan are now involved with the assassination of Gavilar Kholin. Why? Well, the Parshendi claim that Gavilar was about to do something dangerous. We know he was in league with Amaram, and, most likely, with the Sons of Honor, as stated in Chapter 88 The Sons of Honor were trying to return the Voidbringers in order to return the Heralds, and Gavilar was a member. Returning the voidbringers would bring another desolation. Nalan and Ishar plot to kill Gavilar...and Nalan also plots to kill Amaram. Heleran is the Shardbearer who Kaladin kills. Amaram thinks that the Ghostbloods are behind it, but Heleran was not a Ghostblood, that was his father. Earlier in 88, Mraize says that Heleran sought out the Skybreakers, whom we know to have shards from Lift's interlude. So now we can pair the assassination attempt on Amaram to the Skybreakers, and then to Nalan, again, killing someone who could bring about the desolations. Ishar would be a natural ally for this, as he did not wish to have Surgebinders running amok, and would also want to prevent a desolation, for the implications it has on the world, and on the Heralds who abondoned their oathpact. Finally, lets look at the Szeth part of 88. Woah, that's a change in direction. What happened to hunting those who would cause a desolation? Oh yeah, that's right the desolation is here. So with his main quest failed, Nalan turns to his side quest. Justice. Who deserves justice more than the leaders of the Shin (please don't say King T, please?) The Shin leaders who banished Szeth and forced him into his position as Truthless are technically responsible for all of the murders he committed, because they wrongfully forced him into the role. (Crazy end theory) Considering Nalan's statement about being their god, I am inclined to think that Nalan was a force of Shin, entering the world and delivering death for the good of the people, but he was as deceived as Szeth was, and so the deaths that Nalan caused are then also the responsibility of the Shin. Justice for those that Nalan needlessly slaughtered in the name of saving the world. Justice for the wanton slaughter that Szeth partook in. Justice, and not a perversion of it. Edit: Seperated crazy personal theory from the rest of my deductions, as they should have been seperate thoughts. Thanks to Argent for pointing that out to my sleep deprived mind.
  12. Hi, I made a kind of reference document (mostly stuff from the wiki) on Heralds and Surges and chapters (in progress) + some wild guesses, I thought maybe it could be useful to someone:
  13. Stuck behind "spoiler" just in case: Not saying I necessarily believe this, more that I'm looking for others' thoughts and opinions on the possibility.
  14. It seems to me that Gavilar is the link between all the groups and organisations across Roshar. He possessed a certain knowledge which he ironically shared with everyone but his own family which now has kind of formed the Knight Radiants. Starting with the followers of Diagram, we see that Taravangian in his moment of reflection after he becomes the king of Jah Keved thinking about how he had followed Gavilar’s instructions to unify the world for survival and he also knew that Gavilar had visions from Honor which foretold of the Everstorm. Also, Amaram when he sneaks in to inspect Taln and steal the shardblade wonders that the heralds are real and murmurs “Gavilar, we have done it. We have finally done it” which leads me to think that Amaram and Sons of Honor’s motivations are also linked to Gavilar. Though I don’t know what exactly Gavilar has shared with them, probably something about the return of the Heralds and facing the Desolations. This could be something similar to what the Envisagers wanted maybe, where they tried to bring back Knight Radiants the Restares are trying to get back the Heralds, I mean they want the dominance of the Church and they would want their Gods back to help them survive. The Parshendi of course knew what Gavilar was planning. On the shattered plains when Adolin was facing Eshonai in his father’s shardplate, she says that Gavilar was trying to bring their gods back and that would have led to complete destruction. As their gods had once forced the forms upon them and the only way they could have freedom was by devolving to the dullform. (this makes me think that the Parshmen and Parshedi are of Odium). Even the Ghostbloods, before dying Gavilar thought Szeth was sent by Thaidakar, the man who leads the Ghostblood. And the Heralds were also involved as Nalan was there at the treaty signing party and they were discussing how their conditions are getting worse specifically mentioning Ash (shalash). Also, Nalan reveals to Lift that what she is must be stopped as it would return desolation so maybe they were there to stop Gavilar as he wanted to refound the Knight Radiants. So, it seems to me like every road leads to Gavilar. Something is happening that all these secret societies know and Gavilar was the trigger that started the chain of events by discovering the secret that led to his assassination by the Parshendi bringing the fate of Roshar together. And now everyone is either following or trying to stop Gavilar’s work by attempting to unify mankind or trying to stop the desolation.
  15. Nalan has consumed too much stormlight over the millennia. Syl says too much stormlight is “dangerous.” We know it leaches the soul by lightening eye color. I think the corollary is that increased Investiture forces out emotion to the point of having “dead eyes.” My evidence is from the Taravangian interlude. Szeth is described as looking at Adrotagia “with those too-blank eyes of his.” Then Taravangian observes: “Those eyes. The tone of the man’s voice. A dangerous tone. What – “He spoke with emotion, Taravangian realized. That last sentence was said with passion.” Szeth, like Nalan, has used his Honorblade way too much over the preceding six years. He has used excessive stormlight. It has killed his emotions. Szeth's expression of emotion surprises Taravangian. The same with Nalan. Many of us have posited that Nalan was the Herald that returned for his Honorblade. Honorblades are inefficient users of stormlight, making them, as Syl says, dangerous. WoB is that Cosmere magic acts by “wedging open cracks in the soul by letting the Investiture come in, and it can open the cracks more.” The cracks in the soul let the emotions out, just as Investiture comes in. That is why both Szeth and Nalan have “dead eyes” and are emotionless.
  16. My second theory, though I am not fully confident in its veracity. If your're familiar with TV Tropes, think of it as a "Wild Mass Guess". So, I am currently re-reading WoK again, trying to observe details I may have missed the first dozen times. It occured to me that an artist named Dandos the Oilsworn has been mentioned in both Stormlight installments so far. According to Kabsal, he was one of the great masters of pencil-art, but lived around three hundred years prior to WoK. Now, call me paranoid, but I've come to distrust any historical character frequently mentioned in a Brandon Sanderson novel. And so I have come to the conclusion that Dandos was one of the Ten Heralds, who apparently decided to take up an artistic hobby since the last Desolation. What evidence do I have to support this? Well, his full name is given as "Dandos Heraldin". So if any of the Heralds was known for his habit of taking up unimaginative pseudonyms, that's him. Discuss my tenuous grasp of logic below. I just wanted to be able to say "I told you so" in the event that this insanity becomes canon.
  17. If you read through recent (and some not-so-recent) interviews, whenever the subject of man who showed up outside of Kholinar (henceforth referred to as Talenel, see below) is broached Brandon is very careful to make claims such as "you assume he is the Herald" or the like. This confused and upset me because I was very excited about reading Taln's viewpoints and speculating where his Honorblade went. Upon discussing this with some friends, we arrived at a tentative conclusion why. I do ask your apologies for this Doyalist theory. Please note full book spoilers. Brandon's insistent hedging on the subject of Talenel is to set a precedent for future appearances of Heralds. This theory has a bunch of pieces, so let's look at each part. First, we have the nature of the Heralds and their role on Roshar. The Heralds feature prominently in the second group of five books. Brandon has avoided saying too much directly about them so as to not set up expectations that will take upwards of a decade to see played out. Where they came from, how they landed their current job, what that job entailed, what they have been doing for nearly 4500 years and so on are questions that have yet been unanswered. From an in-world perspective, the Heralds are practically divine. We see now that they are single-handedly responsible for keeping the Desolations away and for the protection of the world right before. Many nations and peoples revere them in some form. Their return will see them lauded with power, accolades, and admiration. Second, we have the actual appearance of Talenel himself. He appears outside of the correct (for War, at least) capital city speaking the language perfectly. He carries a (Honor)blade that does not vanish when his concentration breaks. He appears just before the Desolation starts. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, he attracts Hoid. In his interlude (and at the end with Amaram), he speaks of many things that only a Herald could know. He refers to the other Heralds by their real names and knows how they will prepare mankind for the Desolation. Granted, he seems to have severe PTSD and thus unable to orient himself temporally (hence refering to Ishar's Knights as something to be created and having existed for several centuries). There is also the subject of the Gift. Though I cannot provide a rigorous argument, I believe this to be whatever magic is compelling him to say his mantra about the Heralds. It is a Gift to mankind, allowing the Heralds to be located and brought together even though they might still be "out of it" due to torture. And it is never Taln's because, being the stubborn soldier he is, Taln always is the last one out of Damnation. Thus he wouldn't need to explain what is going on, someone else would have been there first. I find it very hard to believe, given the wealth of evidence, that this is not Talenel, Herald of War. I admit there could be subtleties and clues that he has been switched, mind-reformatted, or what have you, but I believe there is a simpler explanation. Third, we need to examine the nature of this Desolation. It appears Odium has been playing the "long game," as it were, waiting for Roshar to wear itself out before bringing in new Voidbringers. Sure, the Heralds are around and could try to mount a defense, but given the current state it would likely be ineffective. I believe we are going to see (in the next few books) at least one person claiming to be a Herald who is in reality an agent of Odium (or similar). They do not have the somewhat constraining requirements of Talenel showing back up, since they have been around this entire time. Instead, they have to show up at Urithiru and demonstrate whatever powers. This will likely be a big plot point, and so Brandon doesn't want to make it seem odd that this new "Herald" gets skepticism when the rest didn't. As such, he has to be consistent until all ten of them make their appearances. The simplest explanation is that Talenel is exactly who he seems and Brandon is being intentionally vague for other reasons. I want to make something clear - I would love to be proven wrong about this theory. It's uncomfortably Doyalist and makes predictions that are very far away. Instead, I would like to have a good understanding of why Brandon is wishy-washy about Talenel. Unfortunately, Talenel's appearance and actions fit exactly with what we would expect (without being "too obvious") and thus finding what is "wrong" with him has proven complicated.
  18. We have WoB that we will see the Prologue chapter in all the first 5 books but from a different POV. so far we have seen, Nalan, Jezrien, and confirmed WoB that Shallash destroyed her statue the night of the assassination. There is also speculation that Nalan was talking to Kalak in the Prologue. So with the exception of Taln (or the man Brandon wants us all to think is not Taln) being the only herald that couldn't be there. Am I crazy? Thoughts?
  19. Previous commentary has assumed that the Honorblades grant a rightful user the ability to use only the surges associated with the Herald whose Honorblade it is. Szeth’s Honorblade, which most speculate was Jezrien’s, gave Szeth Windrunner powers, but (as far as we know) did not grant him the ability to bind other surges. Is each Herald likewise limited to bind only certain surges, based on their respective Honorblades, or do the Blades grant the Heralds the ability to bind all ten surges? Alternatively, do the Heralds possess some inherent power, either derived off-world (where some in this forum believe the Heralds originated) or imbued as a splinter of Honor’s power? The text supports the theory that the Honorblades granted the Heralds access to all ten surges. Kalak observes in the WoK Prelude that “ [Honorb]lades were weapons of power beyond even Shardblades. They were unique. Precious.” Presumably Kalak meant that Honorblades’ ability to grant surgebinding powers elevated them above Shardblades. It’s odd that Kalak viewed Shardblades as actual weapons. Shouldn’t he have known that they were simply a form taken by each KR’s bonded spren? And, knowing that, shouldn’t he have realized that the nahel bond granted each KR powers equal to an Honorblade? Unless for Heralds the Honorblades, unlike the nahel bond, granted the power to bind all ten surges. When normal humans like Szeth use the Honorblades (assuming one could call Szeth “normal”), they were limited to the surgebinding abilities of the Herald whose blade it was. Ishar feared what might happen if each KR had access to all ten surges: "But as for Ishi’Elin, his was the part most important at their inception; he readily understood the implications of Surges being granted to men, and caused organization to be thrust upon them; as having too great power, he let it be known that he would destroy each and every one, unless they agreed to be bound by precepts and laws.” [“Words of Radiance,” Chapter 2, page 4, emphasis added.] Ishar must have felt that “organization” was necessary to preclude men from rivaling Heralds’ power. Otherwise, why bother? A KR already has power over other men. Ishar’s concern must be for the Heralds. Ishar’s fear was sufficiently great that he would “destroy each and every one” if each individual KR’s surgebinding ability were not limited. To leave even a few KR with the same full abilities as the Heralds would inevitably invite conflict between the KR and the Heralds. It is unclear whether the foregoing epigraph refers to Ishar destroying each Radiant or each spren, since the spren were the basis of the KR’s power. And we have discovered that the spren, like men, also had “precepts and laws.” Further, the antecedents to the various pronouns (“them,” “one,” they”) are equally unclear: the “them” does seem to refer to men, but the “one” and the “they” could refer to either men or spren. From Ishar’s perspective, however, the result would be the same – the KR would cease to exist. That each KR Order chose a “patron” Herald does not undermine this analysis. The epigraph of WoR Chapter 37 (“Words of Radiance” chapter 13, page 1, emphasis added) states: "Now, as each order was thus matched to the nature and temperament of the Herald it named patron, there was none more archetypal of this than the Stonewards who followed after Talenelat'Elin, Stonesinew, Herald of War: they thought it a point of virtue to exemplify resolve, strength, and dependability. Alas, they took less care for imprudent practice of their stubbornness, even in the face of proven error." The choice of patron Herald was based on personality, not surgebinding power. This passage says nothing about Taln’s particular surgebinding abilities. That again suggests that each Herald had the ability to bind all ten surges. It is possible that the Stone Shamans taught Szeth how to use only the Windrunner surges and that humans, if properly taught, could use the Honorblades for all of the surges. That will make Kaladin’s possession of Szeth’s former Honorblade very interesting…unless the Stone Shamans take it from him. I do think Heralds also have inherent power – Taln’s catching the darts with superhuman quickness (assuming it was Taln). But the power to bind all ten surges comes from their Honorblades. I will discuss the use of Honorblades and stormlight, which another thread has already addressed, on another day.
  20. OK, tell me if this sounds crazy. There are two kinds of spren, nature and emotion. or (natural forces and concepts) Forces of nature spren are of Cultivation? and emotion/concepts are of Honor? Each Herald get's their abilities from a bond to Honor and each represents an ideal. (a concept) Each ideal granted the Herald two Surges divided up between spiritual and cognitive surges. Four got access to two spiritual surges, Four got access to two cognitive surges, and two got access to one of each. Spren were attracted to each ideal and because each ideal was a bond to Honor the spren "fed" of that bond and achieved sentience by becoming Splinters. These spren, that now each represented an ideal, started to bond with humans giving them surgebinding abilities like the Heralds whose ideal/Order they represent. (Surprising the Almighty) This would suggest that the power of Surgebinding comes from Honor. So what about Cultivation? Well I think her magic system is Voidbinding. (Binding spren that represent natural forces) I don't think that the spren involved in Voidbinding are Splinters, but I suppose they could be, but for now I'm going to assume they're not. So while Surgebinding involves sentient spren who make the decision to bond to a human who represents their ideal. I think Voidbinding works by binding a non-sentient spren that represents a force of nature to them (like stormspren) giving them abilities. =============================== OR The ideals the Herald swore bound them to both Honor and Cultivation (and the Herald's surge abilities, depending upon the Herald, are either of Honor, Cultivation or a mix of both) giving the spren that were attracted to that ideal access to the power of both Shards, becoming Splinters that way. Which would mean that Voidbinding is something else entirely. =============================== This is just something that I started to think about while reading Brandon Q&A's and I thought I share it to see what you guys think. So tell me what you think, feel free to added to it or tear it apart.
  21. Was anyone else not entirely convinced that Darkness is actually Nalan? He didn't actually even say that he was--he just let Szeth draw his own conclusions. I mean, it's clear that the Heralds are capable of being selfish, giving up, and other human things, but Nalan going around and executing judgment on Surgebinders doesn't sound very Herald-ish. That along with giving Szeth (who's pretty crazy at this point) the most dangerous sword in the cosmere, just feels wrong. I have no other evidence to support my assumption, but I think Darkness is probably somebody running around with Nalan's Honorblade and delusions of grandeur (or nefarious plans of his own) or a rogue Skybreaker just pretending to be Nalan to further his own ends. Thoughts? Anything I'm missing?
  22. We've gone too long without high quality renditions of the Herald symbols so I decided to trace the ones printed on the introduction page for each Part in tWoK and WoR. So far, there have been only 6 glyphs depicted on the introduction pages. If anyone knows where I might find a depiction of the other four glyphs it would be much appreciated so I can get them all finished up. Here is what I have so far. Clicking on the image links to a large png. The hyperlink connects to an svg vector file. Betab Chach Jez Kak Nan Shash I wasn't 100% sure which blades belonged to which Herald. What I listed above were my best guesses based on how similar they were to the KR order glyphs but if you think I have one mislabeled let me know. Also, If you'd like a photoshop file with all six glyphs, click HERE PS: Does anyone know if Isaac or Ben was the one that made the original designs for these?
  23. Background design using the first six honorblades that have been released. You can download the design for each individual blade HERE
  24. Tracings for the honorblades/herald glyphs imprinted on the introductory page of each Part in tWoK and WoR. You can download each individual design HERE
  25. I was looking for places where Jesrien might be hiding in the present story. If he has become corrupted, like Shalash who instead of creating art and beauty destroys art (especially statues of herself) and Nale who brings a twisted evil form of justice that appears to be playing into the hands of Odium by destroying Radiants, and possibly Pailiah who may be the ardent assisting Taravangian with the silent gathering instead of healing, he would probably have taken up power for himself but in a twisted way that instead of leading by example and inspiring he became a despotic tyrant that led in fear. One example that is mentioned in both books is the Godking in Tukar in Sesemalex Dar who is being worshiped by the Tukari and the Emuli. In tWoK an ardent mentions that he thinks the war between the Tukari led by their godking and the Emuli is really about control of the city and Kaladin flies over the city and sees a war in the area. In WoR we learn that Mraize doesn't think that the "creature" in Tukar is human or "at least not the local variety" and we learn from Mr. T's guard/master that the war there has gone on for six years. (I'm not good at siting and don't have my book.) This seems like something a twisted, broken, corrupted Jesrien would do. Set himself up as Godking and convince two factions to go to war over him. Now it's possible Nale is just a little off and truly thinks what he's doing is helping and Ash just really hates that people make statues of her and the rest of the Heralds are fine but that seems unlikely. Just my theory feel free to rip it apart, question it, or point me to someone else who has already stated it better.