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So, here's a slightly in-depth theory on the subject: 1. Lightweaving: Lightweaving seems to require a template in order for it to work. In most cases, Shallan has drawn an image, and used her own connection to those images in order to reproduce them in lightweaving. In one instance we see that the copy is very exact, she failed to draw one image correctly, and the result was a blurred fuzzy area on one of her disguises. In another case, Shallan used a different, specific type of connection, called memory--she reproduced a scene from memory, which I'm sure most of us can recall. In order to create that map of Roshar, Shallan would have a great deal of trouble. Why? Because she has never seen it? True, but another way of saying it is that she has no connection to the full image of the Rosharan continent. But Dalinar does... 2. Bondsmiths: We know that each order of Radiants has power over 2 surges. More importantly, we also know that each order of Radiants has a "passive benefit" which is unique to their order. Lightweavers have an unusually acurate visual memory, and sense for geometry--this is shown constantly when the world is viewed from Shallan's perspective. Windrunners have an exceptional ability for combat: we can see this in Kaladin, particularly when he lost his bond, or during the arena fight assisting Adolin. We do not yet know the "passive" abilities of the other Orders of Radiants, but I would pose that a Bondsmith has some ability to share connection. If this is true, it is a power more flexible by far than the two that we have seen. Shallan would then be able to share Dalinars connection to the Stormfather, and the Stormfather's connection to the Map of Roshar. 3. it has nothing to do with "Power". Shallan was not able to create that map because she used a large amount of stormlight. compaired to the size and complexity of other Lightweavings Shallan created, this one was well within previously shown limits. The thing most unusual was what was created, not how much power it took. --- now, I'm not 100% certain that that really is the passive ability of a Bondsmith, but in terms of underlying mechanics, I'm confident in my claims about what Shallan did. If this theory is correct, than the statements of others (multiple radiants combining their power, working under one bondsmith) are not beyond the realm of possibility.

It appears to be there now. ...um... thankyou for moving it for me? (sorry for the trouble)

I just want to release this statement early. I don't have hard evidence, and I don't know if others have submitted the theory in the past. The in-world auther of the epigraphs we have seen in Oathbringer, is HONOR. I do not remember his proper name, but the epigraphs were written by the holder of HONOR, after he was separated from his shard. He states that "those who saw farther" than himself, would likely presume him dead, but that he had in fact experienced something much worse. He is referring to the other holders of Shards, some of whom are able to see quite a distance into the future. The fate-worse-than-death he refers to is his separation from his shard (which may or may not have been voluntary), and having to view the events on Roshar, powerless to effect them as he once could. Honor may, or may not have acquired a Splinter of his previous Power, and he may, or may not still be alive.

I have a table for that actually. It's entirely theoretical, of course, but if it proves correct in even one obvious worldhopping case... --- --- On a more important note: 1. Brandon has said that using any investiture based power creates marks on the soul, or new paths in their spiritweb (I don't remember the exact word), and that as these marks deepen, through re-use the powers get stronger. I believe he also said that once you have these pathways, you can run essentially any kind of investiture through them to gain the effects of those abilities. a) This explains exactly what Vin was doing when she burned the mists. She simply ran their power through the spiritual pathways she already had, from burning metals. This also explains why Rashek retained his Ferrochemic powers after becoming Mistborn. 2. Brandon has specifically said that Lerasium "rewrites the spiritweb". He also hinted strongly that it can be used to write things other than Allomancy, but was very vague about it. 3. We know that preservation and ruin, when not consciously directed, will naturally oppose one another. We also know that Vin killed Ati by pressing her "power" against his, eroding both beings and killing both beings. Couldn't this explain why Mistborn who ate Atium never became Ferrochemists? If a Mistborn eats Atium, it is destroyed, or "breaks down quickly" because the investiture constantly flowing through them as they burn their metals would fundamentally oppose and erode it. As a bonus, this would also explain why Atium burns so fast! because only a small part of it gets burned, and part is annialated by the contact with preservations power. On the other hand, when a non-mistborn eats Atium, they don't have a constant stream of preservation in their body, so the Atium would be free to have a different effect. 4. I like the idea someone brought up about people living in proximity to shardpools potentially having more investiture in their body. It doesn't necessarily have to be Atium; just some source of Ruin inside a person's body that grants them the power. Going along with that, It could have been proximity to The Body of Ruin, while she was still caged, that influenced the Terrismen. or perhaps some other source. 5. I actually had a theory almost identical to this one several months ago, but discarded it as "possible and plausible, but not enough to prove it". So, because of that, I'm slightly biased.

What would happen to Nightblood if he were targeted by Allomantic Leeching?

I've been reading XKCD, so I'll give this one a try just for fun. Since I'm estimating a great deal, and obviously am not going entirely off of cannon, I'll hide the majority of this behind spoiler tags, and hope the Nazi's don't find me.

If you read closely, you can find that Warbreaker actually takes place at the same time as Way of Kings, and part of Words of Radiance. I noted this by watching Hoid very closely. When speaking to Kaladin, in prison, Hoid notes that tuning his harp is now much easier now that he has perfect pitch (aka, the 2nd heightening). This places his visit to Nathis (when he posed as a storyteller, speaking to Siri) immeately before that event. --- what do you all think of the personality comparison?

I had not noticed that. hmmm... I beleive the quote you are referring to is a statement that the Heralds cant actually get out of their duty to the Oathpact. Meaning that where-ever they happen to be, they end up gathering on Roshar During any Desolation. (which seems to be occuring, in story) If I'm mistaken in that, I won't be too suprised, though it would be nice if someone could track down the quote in question. (also, I'm not sure they were all origionally Rosharan either. Tranquoline Halls, and all that, if nothing else.)

I would be more inclined to state, not that breaths can be derived from the flowers, but that the existence of the flowers explains, to a small degree, why awakening requires color as fuel in addition to breath. on Nathis, Color is a type of investiture. When you awaken something, some amount of investiture needs to be used. Thus, the more color is used, the less breath is needed, and vise versa.

Base Information Names (included for convenience) Personality The man in the Prelude to The Way of Kings has always interested me. This may in fact be the the seed that began this theory. His name is given as Kalak, Herald, Patron of the Willshapers. More than this, his attitude is startalingly similar to another man we have read of in Brandon Sanderson's works. A very old man, with a very youthful body. Bourn down heavily by the weight of his age, his knowledge, his sins, and responsability. Not a man who lives for himself at all; instead, a man who lives to correct the wrongs he wishes he had never created. The man who instructed Kaladin Stormblessed to "Choose the option that makes it easiest for you to sleep at night." After all, "That's what I wish I'd done."

A belated note on the discussion of Shards seeing into the future: 1. Atium is a condensed form of Ruin's power. 2. Atium allows those who burn it to see into the future 3. Atium is the power Preservation Stole from Ruin, to weaken him to the point that they would again be equal, after Preservation created sentient humans. Is it not Altogether likely that Preservation Chose specifically to strip away a specific part of Ruin's power, rather than simply a quantity of raw energy? Brandon has said that Ruin was not good at looking into the future, but if Ruin possessed any ability for it at all, that trait could potentially have thwarted all of Preservations planning and efforts to overthrow him and create a successor. It is possible that Ruin could not see into the future (partially) because that power had been stripped away, and condensed into solid form he could not access. Thereby, Atium would grant sight into the future because Ruin no longer could. Admittedly, this is speculation, but the implications fit. 1. Ruin would have aproximately the same ability to predict future events as a VERY well informed human. 2. each nugget of Atium, representing only a tiny fraction of Ruins power, and being an exaustable resource (which if it were part of the body of Ruin, it would then be an inexaustable resource, as all investituredrawn from a Shard, when used, is assumed to return to the shard from which it was derived) would grant only a short glimps into the future, even if Ruin had origionally been capable of much more.

I'm having a bit of trouble finding the Quote I was working from. The more I look, though, I think you are right. I still think he was changed by the intent, but not nearly in the extreme way I thought he was.

Leras would be an example. he started out as quite selfish, but then sacrificed his own sentience, and then his life to bring about the entire storyline of the Mistborn trilogy.

I was always under the impression that Denth was the child of a Returned. do these annotations you mention contradict that? (I may have missed statement that all 5 scholars were returned. if there is such a statement, what chapter might i find it in?)

There was a discussion related to this at the WOR Signing in Herowannabe that touched on this a great deal. I would guess that the answer depends alot on what type of fabrial, though. one that is "always on", like a detector, should be more difficult simply because it has stormlight flowing through the metal all the time, rather than just sitting in the crystals that power it. obviously, I can't do more than guess but... now I want to know the answer to this...

it hasn't been explained, but it happens to both of them

Slightly different way to ask a similar question: --- After a shard invests themself in a Shardworld is it possible for them to un-invest themself from that world when they leave? i.e. if Odium were to leave Greater Roshar, and attack some other world, would he be able to remove the magic system of Voidbinding, from Roshar, so-as to retreive his power?

@Pestis:I beleive Moogle has actually answered this question quite well. (post #495) I'll summarize: Question: Why are essentially all the people we've seen throughout the Cosmere human, rather than human-oid, or alien? Answer: All humans in the Cosmere derive their origin from one of two places. 1. they migrated from Yolen. 2. they were created by Shardholders, modeled after the people who lived on Yolen. It's true that there were more people who lived on Yolen, rather than just humans, and also that not all shardholders are human. (we know that at least one is a dragon). Even so, MOST Shardholders are human. It's reasonable to assume that they hold a slight bias toward their own race, when choosing to people a world. There are some non-human sentient races that have been shown, even if not many. Two of which live on Roshar. (There are theories about Roshar being very nearby to Yolen, so it makes sense that some non-humans would show up there, minicing the other races.)

I've wondered about what a gold misting/aluminium ferring or gold misting/copper ferring could do. I think it might be a bit like self-forgery. Still, that's just speculation. I was more facinated by the idea of whether the gold shadow is actually a being with its own will. What if you really hated the alternative version of yourself? punched them in the face? would they hit you back? would they mirror your actions without thought? would the impact actually hurt you? leave a bruise? or is it all just an illusion?

The exact quotes on this would be great. Everything you have described here, I've read before, but what I'm hinting at with my question is the possibility that Ferrochemy (or something almost exactly like it) could arise on some other world on which two directly opposing shards were equally balenced. The fact that metals are the focus of all magic on Scadrial is important, but leads us back to what I beleive is a rather old question: "if a Ferrochemis were to move to Roshar, would he/she still need to store attributes in metal? or some other substance?" Despite my own ideas (which state 'he would still use metal'), I beleive Brandon responded with "RAFO" to that question. Still, I may be mistaken. I suppose what I'm looking to find out is how much the concept of attribute storing has to do with Scadrial, and how much it has to do with Preservation and Ruin (or any other perfectly opposing shards) holding their active stalemate.

Physical investiture: Several objects are mentioned throughout the Cosmere that, instead of being objects mearly invested with magical energy, are actually composed of investiture in solid or liquid form. Are these Investiture-made objects subject to all the natural laws that other physical laws are privy to? Examples: The Mists (Scadrial); a Shardblade (Roshar)(could it be melted, or forged into two smaller blades?); The Tears of Idris (Nathis)(this item, more than the others, suggests that they ARE subject to normal physical manipulation); any others? Or special cases? Splinters: a number of times, it is noted that certain splinters of a shard will “bond” with living people. Would you be willing to rank in general terms how close/inseparable the following bonds are? Nahel Bond of an active Windrunner. Bond of a Decesed Shardblade with owner. Divine Breath of one of the Returned. Breath of an ordinary Nathis citizen. An Honorblade, with the Herald owning it. Lerasium. Atium, when burned. Atium, when digested, but not burned. A Seon. --for reference, the ranking of the folloing bonds, which do not include splinters, would also be helpful in understanding the above-- the soul with the body. the spiritweb with the soul. a metalmid with its owner. the bond which gives an Elantrian his/her connection with the Dor. a hemelurgic spike with its recipient. a hemelurgic spike with its donor. stormlight bound to a crystal. stormlight bound to flesh. stormlight bound to stone. Ferrochemy: Many people, I think, assume the answer to this question, and so I doubt anyone has asked directly: Is Ferrochemy directly connected to any Specific Shard or Shards? ('yes' reveals very little, but 'no' suggests at a lot.) Nicrosil Metal: Most questions about this are instant RAFO-bait. What color is the metal? Shards: Is it possible for a shard to be splintered, and the Shardholder live? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. feel free to use these. and these.

Allomantic Gold: First, I'd like some clarification of the known effects of this metal. The book (The Final Empire) describes that gold has several simutanious effects, and I'd just like to know that my observations are accurate. While burning Gold, a 'shadow self' appears in front of you. This image is not tangible, and may be seen, heard and felt only by the allomancer whose shadow it is. The Shadow is a representation of a different version of yourself, if you had taken some different decision in your past, and shows how that changed decision would have influenced your life from that time forward. While the Shadow Self Persists, the allomancer may gains the memories of, and emotional outlook of the version of their self that they have summoned, as well as retaining their current memories, and outlook. The allomancer may see through their own eyes, as well as the eyes of the shadow self. This is mildly disorienting, but is also true of all of the other senses as well. The Mistborn Adventure Game suggests that an Auger (gold misting) can choose a single decision in their past, and see how things would play out if the decision had been made in a specific different way, determined at the time the Auger begins Burning Gold. If a specific event is not selected, the novel suggests that the decision selected defaults to the most obviously pivotal event which has taken place in their life thus far. Before moving any further, are each of the above true? Or false? On an individual basis. Next, some questions we may or may not be able to answer yet: 1.Can the Auger control the actions of the Shadow Self, while it persists? Can they suggest a course of action to that self, and receive a response other than thought. (getting the shadow to look around the room for you, etc) 2.Can the auger physically interact with the Shadow Self, or is the interaction entirely illusionary. 3.If the Auger is Twinborn... I assume they cannot tap the metalminds of their shadow?

Do we have WoB on Who Splintered Honor? Most people seem to beleive it was Odium, but I have this theory...

I LOVE this theory, and agree with Tempus wholeheartedly. two related questions though: 1. We know from Hoid/Wit that the heightenings function on Roshar. (He mentions to Kaladin that it's much easier to tune his instrament, now that he has perfect pitch from the 2nd heightening.) Does the use of Heightenings on Roshar require stormlight? That is to say, do they only work while you're consuming stormlight to power them, or do they work continuously from the stored up Breath you have, just like on Nathis? Can Stormlight be used to raise you to a greater heightening? and then stick around just like if it were breath? 2. If Lerasium can be considered a non-sentient splinter, can Atium? Does this mean that Demoux can breath in stormlight because he has previously eaten Atium? I want to say this is streaching it, but that would be a crazy loophole.

Same body, different soul. Spiritual Realm is linked to the soul.