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  1. I'm not in the states but I'd still like this ! (I'll pay for the shipping)
  2. Tien died likely way before Heleran showed up.
  3. It seems to me that the Fourth ideal is VERY heavily hinted at being the "Ideal of Triage" or something. The Ideal of chosing whom to protect after some utilitarian fashion or something, because it is impossible to save everyone. And that is why Kaladin couldn't say the Fourth one. He cannot fathom not trying to save everyone.
  4. The more we go on into this series, the more confusing the relationships between the gods (Odium/Honour/Cultivation) and the humans/Singers become. It seems clear now that Odium was the original human god, then they switched him out at some point. But when? And when did the ancient Singers ally with him? The Singers refer to "their gods", but that could refer to the Fused, Odium, Odiumspren or perhaps even the Unmade? And given that Honour and Cultivation seem to have been there with the Singers before Odium and humans arrived, the gods of the Singers might sometimes refer to them too? In the specific passage you're quoting, Kurk (Hi! btw), I believe the point they're making is that humans did this to themselves. But then again, what happened at Stormseat seems to have been orders of magnitude more powerful than anything else we see traces of on the continent. Cities seems to have been made with division, true, but the shattered plains seem to be roughly the size of a Denmark, or something. What titbits we got in OB leads me to believe that the Recreance happened based on at least partial misunderstandings. That Humans are the original voidbringers seems correct. That they used surgebinding to destroy their original home seems correct, but in my opinion based on confused linguistics. Chicken refers to every bird. Horse to a wide variety of four-hoofed animals. I think surgebinding might be understood as "magics" and might not refer to what the KR are doing at all. I think that the Oaths Ishar made them swear were aimed at enforcing a "level cap" on the powers, and I don't think a KR can get to the power-level of what happened at Stormseat without a serious bypass. Personally, I think that the "Dawnshards" - whatever that is - seems to be something capable of this, and might be what they tested out at Stormseat, or something. I'd like to note that - while I think the original KR might have been wrong in assuming they might destroy Roshar - I am not so convinced that the current ones are above that danger. When Dalinar ascended as a Bondsmith in OB, he did something that Stormfather said has never happened before, and it seriously overpowered the local KR (atleast as compared to their current number of oaths). Whatever was limiting the powers of the ancient KR might not be as effective as it once was.
  5. Interesting. You make a convincing argument for that Death Rattle being about the Battle of Narak. But if I'm not wrong, chronologically, that Death Rattle is uttered before the battle, right? Which would then mean that the Death Rattles are clairvoyant. Interesting. But then again, this might already be well known. I'm really not up to date on current fan theories.
  6. Sorry for jumping in an quoting a rather old post, but I'm ever so slightly drunk and binge reading. So. Anyway. I disagree about using Hoid as an comparison to Lopen and Minons etc. He has his very funny and quirky moments, yes, but Hoid is not a comic relief character. In my personal opinion, Hoid might be one of the most brilliant characters Brandon has written as of tWoK and beyond (he really only had small and insignificant cameos before, nothing to write home about). He reads like a character who puts up a very witty and funny front, but you don't have to dig deep before you understand that it is exactly that - a front. Though we will likely not see any real PoV chapter from him just yet (the epilogues of Stormlight Archive don't really count), I think Hoid will work really well when we finally get proper PoV chapters from him. Even in the few chapters he has more of a role than just a cameo, he already reads as more than just comic relief. He has a real personality that goes beyond the front he puts up. The way he is written hints towards more than just a person in the know, but also a fully fleshed out character. A character to a much greater extent than Lopen or Rock or Minons.
  7. Brandon really puts a lot of work and thought into making his worldbuilding work on a physics level (more or less). Take a look at all the s**t he did to make his idea of Bridge-crews work in SA (short version: gravity on Roshar had to be 0.6 of Earth gravity to make it work). And where he does use magic to make things work, it is within the ruleset of his Cosmere metaphysics. Say what you want about his books, but the dude's work-ethic and worldbuilding-ethics (if that is even a word) are impressive !
  8. This is not necessarily a bad thing, though. Some characters (particularly of the "comic relief" variety) work best when they are in the background, only used as a contrast to whatever the film or book is supposed to be about. Consider the minions from Despicable Me and how poorly they worked in their own movie when the whole bloody thing was about their rather stupid shenanigans. They were cute in small doses. I am not saying that Lopen would not if given a larger role, but as he is now (ditzy and FUN! primarily), he would likely have a disrupting and distracting effect on the narrative.
  9. You make some very good points here, @maxal. Consider me convinced. Let's raise our pitchforks and torches together if Adolin ever disappears for an entire book !
  10. O_o! Interesting. I was not aware of this WoB (GODS I am out of the loop). It does have a rather specific effect, then. Disregard what I suggested, then. Unless we count this within my aforementioned "fonkiness".
  11. I don't have the book in front of me right now, but does it actually burn them away? Duralumin does make you burn whatever you're currently burning away in an instance. But from what I remember about the passages where Vin burns aluminium, does the metals just... disappear? Metals around whomever is burning the aluminium doesn't get thrown away, no emotions are affected, the metals are just purged. There is definitely something fonky going on, and the specific mechanics of this I am unsure of. I might be wrong on the details, but what I am trying to suggest is that we might not need to account for aluminium's role in Allomancy when it comes to its broader Realmatic effects (or lack there-of). It's strange behaviour in Allomancy might be accounted for by the fonkiness of the metal itself (whatever that fonkiness might be exactly).
  12. Remember that the metals are not Investiture themselves (well, they are, but locked in physical form, just as everything is), but the key needed to access the power of Preservation. I think we are allowed a free-pass on aluminum as a "burnable" metal in that I think burning it more or less (instantaneously, but temporarily) storms up your connection to preservation and purges the rest of your metals (/keys). Not exactly a very refined theory, but what I am trying to say is that the peculiar nature of aluminum in general might in-and-of-itself account for what it does Allomantically.
  13. That's not to say that a character's role cannot be minimised for an entire book. Jasnah was a personal favourite amongst the secondary characters of tWoK (she had more or less just a large role as Adolin in the first book, although she had less of an active role), and I was looking forward to seeing how she developed in WoR. We did get a few nice chapters with her, but then she disappeared for 90% of the book, only to return in the epilogue. Not that I was mad. Shallan needed to lose her mentor for the mono-myth thing to make its course. It felt natural, and I was tricked (in a positive sense) into letting one of my favourites be away for more or less an entire book.
  14. I am not sure that aluminum could not have a spiritual aspect, considering Brandon's worldbuilding. Because the Spiritual Realm contains the Essences of what an object is, I can only see two ways that aluminum could be worked in: Aluminum is somehow spiritually "locked" in that the application of Investiture cannot (in any way) change the metal. It remains the same, except for more mundane applications of change (such as melting it down, forging it (not in the tES way), etc.). Aluminum is somehow lack of essence, and because of that, the lack of everything (because without a spiritual essence, how could it have a cognitive or physical aspect?. Aluminum is somehow a physical thing, yes, but it is more the lack of things - emptiness - rather than anything concrete.
  15. Lynel's ARE your friends when it come to learning the higher mechanics of the game. Get max faeries, have the Goron ability and Mipha's Grace ready, your best armour on and go and NOT kill a Lynel. Practise dodging and shield parrying. Practise using fire (or the Lynel's fire) to get into the air to use time-dilation to hit it easily in the face. Specifically, watch for the tell-tale signs of horizontal and vertical attacks, and practise reacting to them with good timing so you activate flurry rush. Oh, and even a Lynel's charge can be flurry rushed if you jump to the side. This has been today's unrequested lesson in "gitting good".