ThatRedHead717

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  1. I've seen a few posts about putting the Shards on a table similar to that of the Mistborn abilities (allomancy and feruchemy) and I have made one I really think is accurate. Given what we know now about almost all of the Shards and even one of the Dawnshards, I think we can start to draw some incredible conclusions. The Shards are complicated, but knowing Brando Sando, there is a logic to them. Lets figure out that logic and infer new information from it. Starting with what is confirmed, Dawnshards are connected to specific Shards. In the mural Rysn sees when she becomes the Dawnshard Change, we see Adolnalsium broken into 4, then each of those 4 into another 4. We can assume that this means that each Dawnshard is specifically responsible for 4 of the Shards. And we can assume they retain some Connection to those Shards (Connection is used lightly here. They're somehow connected. ) We see Rysn gain at least the 3rd Heightening once she becomes the Dawnshard Change. She sees more vibrant colors and can hear a musical quality to voices that she couldn't previously. These are ways Brandon has described the 3rd heighting. So from this, we can assume that Change created Endowment and still has some connection to it, giving Rysn the power granted by Endowment. It makes the most sense to me to break the 4 quadrants of the chart into the 3 realms and time. This means Physical, Cognitive, Spititual, and Temporal are out catagories, similar to the way allomancy and feruchemy are divided. But since we know that each Dawnshard is specifically responsible 4 Shards, we can also assign a Dawnshard to each of these catagories. Change goes with the Temporal catagory. We don't know anything about any of the other Dawnshard, but I would bet my hat that they follow this pattern. As for the internal catagories, I went with Inward/Outward and Increase/Decrease. These are intentionally vague and up to interpretation. I can't know the actual words Brandon might/will use for this so I just picked something. I can't find it now, but in a WoB he says that Shards are not self-changing. Cultivation isn't seeking to Cultivate herself and Ruin doesn't want to destroy himself. So Inward/Outward is not about the shard doing things internally/externally, but the ways the Shard influence the people around them. Increase/Decrease generally refers to if that Shard wants more of that thing or less of it. This one is hard to explain but it does make some sense looking at the whole chart. It's similar to push/pull. It makes sense in some cases but in others you have to stretch your imagination a bit I made a fancy color coded chart but I can't insert it in the middle of this text so I included it at the end. Here is that same info in a text only format: Physical Outward Decrease - Unknown Shard Outward Increase - Invention Inward Decrease - Autonomy Inward Increase - Whimsy Cognitive Outward Decrease - Dominion Outward Increase - Devotion Inward Decrease - Ambition Inward Increase - Wisdon Spiritual Outward Decrease - Odium Outward Increase - Mercy Inward Decrease - Valor Inward Increase - Honor Temporal Outward Decrease - Ruin Outward Increase - Cultivation Inward Decrease - Endowment Inward Increase - Preservation Physical as a category is hard to pin down. Pretty much all of the Shards are qualities of people because it was the Dawnshards that handled the physical stuff. Invention is the only one that makes perfect sense where it is. I can get behind Whimsy being and inward physical increase and autonomy being where it is. But it's hard to justify really The Cognitive section is stronger than Physical in my opinion. Devotion and Dominion are very close to each other symbolically so it makes perfect sense that they would just be one word apart here. They are how people think of other people so it makes sense they would be here. Ambition is kind of the same. It's a mindset that drives people to do things. Wisdom is not a confirmed Shard but Hoid does reference wisdom as if it is a person so it could be the 15th shard. The argument could be made that Wisdom belongs in Spiritual but I think it fits better in Cognitive. The spiritual and Temporal sections are the ones I'm most confident on. Preservation is hard to place anywhere because it doesn't want any increase or decrease but the other 7 placements are really strong. Valor is mostly unknown to me so so I'm going based of this: valor is doing whatever it takes to do the right thing; honor is doing the right thing, no matter what it takes. Both are internal spiritual aspects, but one is a bit destructive and the other constructive. The Spiritual Shards are generally ways that you can treat other people, but it comes from a very internal place. It's like the foundation that a personality is built on. That's why I think these 4 belong in Spiritual. They are the deepest down aspects of people and how they treat others. The temporal ones are more straighforward. These Shards have super long term goals and want to see things change (or not change) in really specific ways. Ruin wants things to be destroyed. Cultivation wants things to grow. Preservation wants things to never change. Endowment is a bit of a mystery but it has this same vibe. So there's my list. Please let me know if you think I was wrong about anything. I want this to be as accurate as we can manage so we can start to infer new information from it. Like what are the other 2 Shards and what do they want? How will Odium change Taravangian based on Odiums base Intent? How can we understand Harmony better by understanding what Ruin and Preservation are really truly about. What are the other 3 Dawnshards and how will they impact the cosmere going forward?
  2. The only Order that might have any trouble taking down a tank is Truthwatchers. Every single other order has at least one power that can just immediately destroy any armored land vehicle. Windrunners can run in, dodging any missiles or pushing them away with a reverse lashing, and cut the missile to shreds with their shardblade. Skybreakers can do the same. They can't reverse lash but I'm still donfident one could get in close enough to cut with the Shardblade or use division. We haven't seen much on Skybreaker's division so i'll let their blade take this cause I know that could do the job. Dustbringers don't need to get close to a tank to mess it up. they can just be 100ft away and tear up the ground under the tank, then run in and slice to shreds. Edgedancers have it super easy. They will have no trouble dodging any missiles or the like and just have to get close enough to rip it to shreds with the magically shard and devastating shardblade. Lightweavers and Elsecallers can literally melt bullets as they approach so they do no harm. all they have to do is walk up to the talk and turn it into fire. easy peasy. Willshapers can stoneshape under the tank and lift them up by the middle so they cant aim or move, then walk up and use shardblade. stoneward can do the same but then they can also make the treads of the tank meld together so they can't turn, now they can't move even worse. Then walk up and use shardblade. Do I even need to defend bondsmiths here? Seeing as we have only scratched the surface of Bondsmith abilities and Dalinar can already do such incredible things, i think it's safe to say he could deal with one tank. I'm talking about a specific 1 on 1 encounter between a tank and a radiant but this is applicable to any battlefield where there are tanks. (Assuming we're on earth) earthlings wont just nuke their own planet to get rid of them so we have to assume they will use other methods of fighting. If you genuinly think that a group of radiants couldn't stand their own against our military, you're out of your mind.
  3. I am a long-time Sanderson fan and I want to start talking to other Sanderson fans and be a part of this community. Yall seem awesome and I want to be a part of everything that is going on here on this site. I've read Mistborn era 1 and Alloy of Law (but not the rest of era 2 yet unfortunately). I have also read Warbreaker (which was fantastic) and the amazing Stormlight Archive. That last one I'm actually reading through for the 3rd time right now haha. They're just too good! I can't put them down, even right after finishing them. I can't wait for Stormlight 5 but I'm sure it will take Brandon a very long time to get it as perfect as he can make it. I'm currently waiting for the audiobooks of Elantris and Arcanum Unbounded but can't wait to read those either. (I use an audiobook app called Libby that uses a public library card. It's free but can take a while to get some books.) I would love to theorize about magic systems, lore, and anything else yall can think of. Also, I've seen many people with little additions under their username called "Member's Reputation Title". how can I get one of those for myself? I'm a Willshaper and want to display that wherever I go on this website Anyway, thank you for reading this far and I can't wait to start theorizing with you guys!
  4. I'm not sure if this belongs here in SA or in the Mistborn thread but the stuff I'll quote to support this is from RoW so I'm going to go with here. I'm also not sure if someone has already made this theory before. There are 200,000 posts here so it seems likely but I still think this is a good idea and worth discussing. (I have been listening to the audiobooks so I don't have specific page numbers. I'll give what chapter I took it from and the context so you can find it though.) RoW chapter 39 - 23:39:00. This happens after the invasion of the Tower when fused and regals are searching the Tower for downed radiants. Kaladin is in his father's hospital area and hears news of these enemy troops coming toward him. He picks up a scalpel and prepares for battle, then thinks this: "the scalpel of a surgeon was a very different thing from a soldier's knife. a surgeon's knife could be a subtle thing, meant to cause as little harm as possible. a delicate contradiction, like Kaladin himself." "it had been designed to heal, but could kill just as efficiently, like Kaladin himself" also, in Harmony's letter (at the beginning of RoW Chapter 29), he says, "I have begun searching for a pathway out of this conundrum by seeking the ideal person to act on my behalf. Someone who embodies both Preservation and Ruin. A....sword, you might say, who can both protect and kill." I believe these quotes are referencing the same person. Kaladin Kaladin is a complicated person. He has years of formal training as a surgeon and years of formal training as a killer. He knows how to do both very effectively and seems to find a balance between the two by the end of RoW (after swearing his 4th ideal). But this complicated past is exactly what makes him perfect for this job. He is very familiar with ruining and preserving. I believe that in the second 5-book series in Stormlight Archive, Kal will meet Sazed/Harmony and they will strike a deal similar to what Odium wanted with Dalinar, though, not quite so destructive. Harmony doesn't need a general to lead his armies or a bondsmith to free him from his prison. Harmony just needs an avatar to act through. Someone who will truly, deeply understand him, his goals, and what keeps him from accomplishing them. That's the theory. Let me know what you guys think of this! I've been thinking about this for a week or two and really feel like it fits. If Kal can find a way over to Scadrial, this would be super cool!
  5. When Venli first used her radiant power of cohesion in the Tower in RoW (i don't have specific pages or chapters) she has a conversation of sorts with the stones that make up the portion of the Tower she was in. They tell her that past Singers were able to dip sticks into the stone and pull up weapons and tools. They were mostly talking about how powerful the radiant spren and Singers were together and gave a few specific examples like that one. Willshapers and Stonewards are super powerful because of cohesion. I can't wait to learn more about it in SA5
  6. I'm sure bondsmiths played a role in the destruction of Ashyn but I've always thought that it was mostly the Stonewards and Dustbringers. We don't see them on screen but according to this, the dustbringer oaths are about dealing with their increasing power with increasing responsibility and respect for their power. I think this is partly because of the damage they did on Ashyn. and Stonewards are crazy powerful when properly utilized. we haven't really seen that either, but their surges are among the most destructive. Bondsmiths are a bit of a weird case. I feel like the way they use tension and adhesion is just in vibes. Like year Dalinar can stick a bar stool to the wall to climb up to a high place but most of his abilities are just "uniting" in some form. Uniting the 3 realms with a perpendicularity. Uniting the broken pieces of Thaylen statues and buildings. I feel like Brando tries to make the powers fit the surges, but he figures out what he wants Dalinar to do first, then justifies it through "uniting". So we really have no clue what any other bondsmith is capable of because it is so subjective to each one. Maybe Ashyhn bondsmiths could have accidentally destroyed their planet. But I don't think that's really what happened. Also, the surge of cohesion is shared by Stonewards and Willshapers, not Elsecallers.
  7. I disagree with the overall message here. I love all 6 SA books (including the 2 novellas) and I think they just keep getting better. That being said, I do agree with this: I wish someone else had bonded the Sibling. I get why it had to be her in the story but there are so many people on Roshar. why does this married couple get to make up 2/3rds of the most powerful order of radiants? and all their immediate and even distant relatives are also super powerful radiants. Maybe other high prince families could have gotten in on the action instead of just being the political intrigue side of these books :/
  8. I'm a Willshaper through and through. It's a shame we don't get to see more of them in the books, though I really identify with Venli when she is in the Tower trying to free her friends. I truly believe that all people should be free to make their own decisions and choose their own course in life. For a lot of my life, I wasn't really given a choice on gender or sexuality stuff so I really see the value in each person having the freedom to make the decision they need to make. The actual Willshaper oaths we've seen sworn on screen are a bit more focused on physical imprisonment but I interpret them as more personal freedom and bodily autonomy-type stuff
  9. I don't think that's quite how it works. Radiants can usually swear oaths independent of what their spren is doing. When Kaladin swore his third ideal while protecting Elokhar from Moash in the war camps, Syl was nowhere close to him. She was being held back by the Stormfather and only once he had sworn the oath could she fully return to him. When Shallon has sworn her oaths, Pattern is pretty much always there but that doesn't mean it is a rule. He just happens to be the one who can draw those truths out for her. Either way, I don't think the cryptic moving a few feet/yards/rooms away would have made any significant difference in Elokhar's ability to swear his ideal. The only way in which Kal is responsible for the King not swearing his ideal is in failing to protect him from Moash.
  10. Unfortunately, no. I wouldn't consider myself a hat enthusiast. I definitely like a good hat and your tophat is most excellent!