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  1. @Lesser sprenI highly recommend Malaz Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson. It can be a bit boring at first, but it's totally worth it.
  2. 1: Born in Taldain, a few centuries before White Sand events, and becoming a sand master. Later earn the favor of Autonomy and leave the system with a lot of Investiture, and a bit of Badvinium that I've acquired previously. 2: I travel to Scadrial to arrive just before Rashek at the Well of Ascension, take the power, and steal all Atium I can find (the Divine Metal, not the alloy that grows in Pits of Hathsin). Then, I consume a single bead of Lerasium and keep the other fifteen. I learn to create metal minds without sealing, make a couple of bracers like those of the Lord Ruler, and become an expert in hemalurgy (never trying it on myself). I go to Nalthis. 3: I arrive in Nalthis to witness the return of Vo, the First Returned. I act as an advisor and a loyal friend after his return, explaining everything about the Cosmere to him but not mentioning the Commands. When I gain his favor (with the help of Allomancy), I deceive him by saying that I can teach him how to do anything random he wants to know (having deduced in advance what things interest him) if he utters the Mandate "My life to yours, my Breath become yours." He gives me his divine breath and dies. I don’t need the weekly Breath to survive, so I spend some time just learning about Awakening. Over time, I establish a religion that worships me and obtain a ridiculously high amount of Divine Breaths and ordinary Breaths. I wait until the Five Scholars are born and learn what I have left to know after several hundred years in the Tenth Elevations. Meanwhile, I collect all the Edgium I can find in my free time. I temporarily leave Nalthis, now immortal and with the Tenth Heightening, (and only because there are no more Heightenings left...) and take with me the most devoted worshipper I can find. 4: I spend some time in Sel to become an Elantrian and then, become also Elantrian to Servant (I'm going to call my Nalthis worshipper that from now on). I choose a Skaze and a Seon to bond, but after making them worship me, I have Servant take care of them in my long absence (now Servant is Immortal) and lock them away until my return. Before leaving, I inform him about the Reod and how to fix it, but I order him not to tell anyone, only to use it for his own benefit. 5: Roshar is calling me, so I head there. I make sure Honor selects me as the Herald of Luck instead of Ishar, and when Odium kills Honor, I steal Jezrien's Honorblade (I don't want competition with Adhesion Surge). Previously, I've spoken with Re-Shephir and bonded a corrupted Brumaspren, thus protecting myself from Odium and Cultivation's foreknowledge (which they haven't acted on because they know I can create a Nightblood whenever I want and kill them in a direct confrontation). I use Adhesion to force a bond with the Stormfather, then bond the Sibling, and finally the Nightwatcher. I open the Perpendicularity of Honor and use Connection to bond Radiant spren of each class and later to make the bonds with each of my sprens one of total servitude and devotion to me. Who was missing? Oh, the Unmade. Well, more of the same, forced bonding, and then enslavement. I steal a bit of Raysium and look for two deadeyes, one cultivationspren and one honorspren (both pure divine metals). 6: I return to Sel and force a bond of servitude with the Skaze and Seon I left in charge of Servant. I Connect myself with the land to become a Forger. I take the opportunity to obtain all the divine metals of Devotion and Dominion that I can find. 7: I return to Nalthis to perpetuate my reign and become an expert in Awakening. I gradually optimize society so that the population forgets Awakening, and everyone's vocation is for me to take their breath (they pay me to free them from sin), the same applies to the Returned. To pass the time, I become an expert (even more so) in composition, both Allomantic and Hemalurgic, and use breaths along with the rest of my abilities to create weapons that can absorb Investiture at a distance, accumulate it, and then deliver it to me. Occasionally, I take a stroll on a planet I haven't been to before to obtain the Divine Metal of its Shard. When I have all the Divine Metals, I start alloying Lerasium with each other Divine Metals and burning it: I don’t know why right now, (its RAFO) but I think that would be quite cool.
  3. Brandon says that there is one different from the others. It could be that he refers to Change being incompatible with Survive and the others hypothetical Dawnshards, but since we have only seen one Dawnshard on screen (Rysn's one), I don't think we can resolve for sure what he refers to. Despite everything, I think they can be derived in some way from the intention of each of the shards, if not as proposed by @TheoreticalMagic in "Shard Patterns", something similar.
  4. Hi @Leonpaintbrush, I believe, within the categories proposed by @TheoreticalMagic in "The Four Dawnshards as the Cosmere Unified Field Theory" and upgraded on "Shard Patterns", Hoid's Dawnshard would fit best into the "Exist" category, which I think is simultaneously the category of "Survive." It's strange, because it makes you immortal but unable to kill, as if the Command of Existence applies to both the bearer of the Dawnshard and others. And as for where to hide a Dawnshard, if I had to bet where Hoid left it, I probably wouldn't: -Edgli and Hoid detest each other, so I think we can rule out Nalthis. -As he has actively avoided Rayse, we can also eliminate Roshar, probably the entire system, not just the planet. Although he got along with Tanavast, I don't think he would risk an encounter with Odium with a Dawnshard. -The aforementioned reason also rules out Sel as a candidate. -I don't believe Hoid would leave a Dawnshard near Ruin, so I am going to dismiss Scadrial. -Hoid doesn't seem to have a bad relationship with Valor and the other Shards, who only appear in RoW interludes, but they don't seem to have seen Hoid for a while. -Autonomy hates Hoid, so we can also dismiss Taldain. -Autonomy's avatar in Obrodai told Hoid not to return, so he might have left and picked up a Dawnshard, although it would surprise me. -We can dismiss Threnody without hesitation (Dawnshard + Shade = Awful Idea). -I think there has been a Dawnshard in Komashi, but it seems from Hoid's narrative tone in "Yumi and the Nightmare Painter" that he hadn't been there before. -And I think the same is truth about Lumar. -Canticle is practically perfect, but when Hoid spoke to Nomad he said that the latter had seen more Cosmere than Hoid, from which I deduce that Hoid has not been to Canticle. -Silverlight would be the best place to ensure it does fall into the wrong hands, and Hoid knows it. -I don't think Frost and the Seventeenth Shard would accept having a Dawnshard (that's meddling in the affairs of Shards), and I don't think Hoid would risk giving it to them. -If Hoid gave the Dawnshard to the Ire, their ambition would end with bad consequences, so they are also ruled out. -The Ghostbloods did not exist at that time. That leaves only planets about which we know luckily the name such as Vax, Yolen, Mythos, Bjendal, the unnamed (for now) Aether homeworld… Concluding: I have no idea about where, and only suppositions about what, so I think it's probably RAFO.
  5. I don't know to what extent Hoid was invested, because I haven't found when he acquired his peculiar abilities with connection and fortune. It seems strange to me how different the side effects are from having been Dawnshard: Hoid is immortal, with a strong healing factor, maybe the Dawnshard also gave him the ability to create visions and even being agelessness. He can carry a sword, but even if he manages to eat meat, it will make him nauseous. Nomad, however, can barely touch anything sharp, nor inflict pain of any kind, although he can eat whatever he wants. It is amortal (does not age), absorbs cathexis through the body, which increases its physical capacity and can use it to heal and empower itself. (I think we can assume that these last three abilities are obtained from the Nahel bond) And he can "jump" from one planet to another if he has sufficient investiture. They are only completely alike in that they do not age and their torments are similar. The side effects of the two former Dawnshards are as dissimilar as Hoid and Nomad themselves. Could it be that factors such as connection, identity, or even sDNA play a role in influencing the abilities and afflictions of the Dawnshards?
  6. A Polestone loses Investiture, but since their only function is to store it, I don't think there will be any problems in perfecting it. However, as the Coopermind understands, metallurgical barbs only lose power when they are not in contact with blood. And even if this were the case, is the Investiture really "lost", or is it used to make a bridge between the sDNA of the recipient and the sDNA of the recipient? Edit: I found this – proving my mistake – so I forgot my answer.
  7. Nomad didn't have too many problems getting rid of the Torment imposed by his Dawnshard. How old is he? 200 years at most? And almost casually, he frees himself from his Torment. Hoid was at least 11,000 years old in WoK, and is probably one of the individuals with the most knowledge of the Cosmere. How is it possible that a person –no offense– relatively new to understanding the Investiture has managed to free himself from its torment before a Radiant, Elantrian, Mistborn and Awakener who maintains letter conversations with the shards? Is there a reason Hoid would choose to keep his Torment, or does being a bearer of a Dawnshard for a longer period of time come with more limitations? Or am I missing something completely different?
  8. I think one of the Quotes says that the Storm Father is surprised -so he wouldn't know if he was-, and the correct question he should have asked is whether all Dawnshard should always be bound immediately and/or consciously. I don't remember, but has Brandon ever said if all Dawnshard have the same Torment?
  9. He then opens a perpendicularity, saving the battle of Thaylen Field for our heroes. Later, Odium is ranting to Taravangian about how Dalinar wasn't supposed to Ascend, with a capital A. The question - is Odium's use of the word "Ascend" referring to ascending to the next Ideal of the Bondsmiths, or is there something more going on there? Brandon Sanderson I used a capital letter there intentionally, and normal saying of oaths would not get a capital letter. That is in a character's perspective. There's a character using that capital letter, the character uses that capital letter intentionally. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/509-youtube-spoiler-stream-5/#e15974 What do you think?
  10. In Tress of the Emerald Sea it says that Hoid would have a 20% chance to kill the Sorceress, but Brandon has repeatedly said that a Dawnshard cannot harm anyone –Hoid can't even eat meat–. Has he managed to change this somehow? What am I missing?
  11. Ok, I'll try to check it (spoilers): At no time does it put anything to kill without pain…
  12. The Coopermind says almost with these words that Dawnshards cannot “inflict phisical pain” They can cause pain in the Cognitive realm, they can kill (if the cause of death is painless). I'm thinking that if a certain Dawnshard were to hold out his hand and not give an explicit order to his Spren, if the Shardblade were to materialize (killing someone), it technically wouldn't be the Dawnshard's responsibility. Or use Diminishers fabrials to avoid inflicting pain. Or using Aon Sheo. Could someone shed some clarity, please?
  13. I think it would be possible to empty the hemalurgical creation of Identity, Connection, Emotion* and other attributes using Raysium bonded to Aluminum, Duralumin and Raysium* Metal Minds. * Speculation without any support.
  14. It is a good question, which I do not think has a clear answer. Two options occur to me: As Brandon hinted on several occasions, the Cosmere has many systems that he hasn't talked... We cannot rule out that they are planets, moons, stars... that are not Invested, so they have no relevance to the plot. (or aut the Cosmere)
  15. I asked a similar question, to which the answer was that it could, but that the spren could break the Link, and if it remained, the efficiency of the Link would be greatly diminished.
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