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What about someone who doesn't have an arm making a prosthetic one out of breaths and cloth? Could be a workable version of this

Seems like Scadrial has some decent theorizing, what about other planets? I feel like singing the tone of a shard doesn't do anything crazy but the anti-tone has interesting implications Anti-endowment ~ maybe it can mess with the extra colors people see or mess with Lifeless Tone of Virtuosity ~ I think it would be interesting if this helped sculpt Hion lines or attract some of the spirits Anti-Devotion/Dominion ~ I feel like it would mostly mess with Seons/Skaze but maybe with Elantrians too Tone of Ambition ~ Would be really interesting if this tone could somehow calm down shades. The Anti-Ambition tone could be a shade detterent Anti-preservation ~Maybe this would mess with seekers Anti-Cultivation ~ scare away nearby spren maybe? And I feel like the answer is yes but would Adonalsium have a tone? How would that affect each magic system/shard if they heard it?

So I wonder if there could be some delicate hemalurgy to remove the torment from Hoid. It would get around any of the self perception problems. You still have problems of it Hoid would want that to happen but it could be one possibility.

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So what other rithmatic lines could there be? I can't seem to think of anything because there doesn't seem to be a pattern to predict any. The only one I can think of is a way to give instructions to your enemies chalkings. Maybe when they attack it?

I've made some MTG cards set in the cosmere if anyone wants to take a look. The goal is less about balance and more trying to capture what a crossover between MTG and the cosmere could look like. I don't own any of the art. If you have any suggestions or know of any good art, let me know. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10piRRiF2hQEzbh48r_4kFfjYlXXQiORR?usp=drive_link

I think being splinters of shards is the most likely outcome but for the sake of discussion the other popular theory is that each unmade has some aspect of one of the heralds that sets them apart from spren. Generally, it comes from this quote in ch 88 of Oathbringer from Jezrien "I used to think it wasn’t my fault. But you know, we can’t escape what we did? We let them in. We attracted them, befriended them, took them out to dance and courted them. It is our fault. You open yourself to it, and you pay the price. They ripped my brain out and made it dance! I watched." Mostly the line "they ripped me brain out and made it dance" Could just be the torture they did on Braize but they could have ripped chunks of their souls off and Odium could have made minions out of them. I feel like we don't really have any evidence besides this quote. No unmade draws connections to Ishar or Nale for example.

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Hmm I think divine breath and emotional allomancy are the best bets. just trying to think of alternatives if you jumped through the hoops of making a new hemalurgic construct that was more beast like you could control it with emotional allomancy without the sentience problem mentioned above. Like if you made a mistwraith horse with one spike it wouldn’t be a Kandra but might be more vulnerable to emotional allomancy for example.

Really interesting, I wonder what the difference between an avatar of autonomy is and the stormfather. Is it a difference in power levels? intent? What would it take if Harmony heard about the stormfather and wanted to replicate it on Scadrial? We don’t know a lot but I imagine the process would be similar to making an avatar. Would odiums spren be the everstorm? Or do the unmade/the thrill already check the box? and for Lumar I think a spren for each spore sea could make sense. But I could also see a spren for each moon. If I remember right there is a religion on Lumar that worships the moons. and getting into the really obscure ideas because most shards are covered. Due to the location based aspect of the dor could each nation have a Godspren that is connected to the magic system? So could maipon, the home of soul forgery have a god spren? Or would it be to disconnected from a shard?

In stormlight we know that Adhesion is Honor's surge, and that Progression is the surge most connected with Cultivation. My question is hypothetically what would happen if a different shard was connected to a surge like these two? I want to be clear I don't think it is likely especially because Odium is on Roshar and has not manifested a surge but I think it would be fun to try and figure out what they could be. The basic definition is that the Surges of Roshar are the basic fundamental force of the world such as gravity and light. Here is what I have for each shard so far Preservation - time based abilities, mainly slowing things down. Breathing stormlight into something and it would act slower, enemies, falling objects etc Ruin - could be division. I don't know if I could find a better match thematically Odium - emotion based abilities? It isn't a fundamental force but I can't think of anything else to match the intent of hate. It could act like a rioter or soother who breaths stormlight out and those it touches get thier emotions influenced. Endowement - ? Autonomy - ? Virtuosity - Could be connected to the surge of illumination because all we know about its intent is it is artistic in nature. Similar situation to Ruin Also even if you can't match them up to a shard if there were more surges that matched the 10 we know what could they be? The only "fundamental force" I can think of is temperature but I cannot find a good match, maybe Ruin? I could also maybe see maybe a fortune based ability but I am not sure if that matches the definition of fundamental force. Could go to Endowement for good luck or Ruin for bad luck

Those are really interesting, I especially like the first one. I have a couple but they are mostly just variations - a "no choice" option It's a weird set of circumstances but imagine you were in a war where generals had all the breath. If one was gravely injured and knew they were going to die they could pass it along to any soldier nearby to prevent their army from losing a resource. This is similar to what happened to Vienna where someone knew they were dying soon and didn't want their breath to be wasted. I think it's similar to the generational breath idea but this one could be more impromptu. It also needs someone to be in the right place and the right time -You could also do gambling which is just a variation on buying. A casino on Nalthis where you wager one breath but could get two if you win. -employment This one is also strange. I remember in the books its mentioned that there are guards in the court of gods who have enough breath to recognize what heightening others are at. Do you need a certain amount of breath to get the job or are they given to you so you can complete that job? It would be interesting if there was a treasury of some kind where you get an allotment of breaths and must return them in a certain time frame. You would need a person to hold the breaths so it could be passed to different people but it is an interesting idea.

I wonder if any of the feruchemist spiritual abilities would help with this. In a weird way maybe someone who had stored identity could tap it to become "more" terris and then have a higher chance of having ferrings as children. I could also see a nicrosil ferring maybe being able to help with this because they can do stuff with investiture but we haven't seen much of what those abilities can do.

I heard a theory that someone experienced with an honorblade could track down other honorblades through the Oathpact/connection magic. I think its supported by the idea that they left their blades behind. Could be a mix of being unworthy/you don't want the other heralds to find you. Its not as dramatic as whatever the Stormfather is probably referring to.

I think one of the interesting parts of the Stormlight books is the random interludes we get during the story. It helps me understand how big Roshar is in and how detailed the world-building is. Mistborn is a different kind of book but hypothetically if there were interludes in mistborn era 1 or 2 what characters/stories would we see to help us see more of Scadrial? My current ideas are: Era 1 A metalurgist making a new kind of metal and either being killed by inquisitors or delivering it to Vin I read a short fanfic of the Kolos named Human before being turned into a Kolos that was interesting Some kind of Obligator/servant preparing a storage cache for the Lord Ruler Era 2 ( I know the broadsheets already do this but this is for fun) Anything to do with Kolos-blooded A terris ferring experimenting with one of the lesser know abilities like storing connection (in the arcanum unbound for one of the books it mentioned the terris were experimenting on what could be done with these powers) Anyone else have ideas?