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I don't see that as different physics, outside of magic being basically an extension of physics in the Cosmere. I see it as them somehow building it to mimic gravitation and/or adhesion. As we know that they are very associated with both, especially Adhesion, and can use Adhesion. So yeah, is likely due to that.

We do know for sure it is not instant, just very fast. And yes, I believe that the Great Soothing was a mixture of TLR Compounding, already being an absurdly strong Mistborn even without it, and due to Duralumin. (And yes, I do recall a WoB that said one can Compound for a great Allomantic effect, if you know how, which TLR should)

Well, on the memories thing, we know it works in a way where it is all stored together inside it as discrete memories. Rather than a continuous blob. Also, on compounding those two metals, Brandon has been specifically very tight lipped about them. So it is something he has big plans for.

I was always thinking it, it would also help greatly with medicine, and likely lead to things like transgenderism becoming very well known and respected on Scadrial, due to how Investiture-Based Healing in the Cosmere works. I do feel though that this is gonna be limited, given how Scadrial is currently in a period of deep corruption of the government and the wealthy elite. So they would likely take in all the metalminds they can for their own sake. Rather than distribute them amongst the people. So I feel that the effect would be more limited than it would be if they were more freely distributed.

So I have been wondering for a while how to calculate what speed Wax can go via manipulating his mass. It is simple enough if we ignore Wind Resistance and all. But it gets more complicated including it. Ultimately though, I came to a conclusion. If we treat the change in mass as being by a factor of 1/a. Then the velocity following would be v₀a. But of course we know wind resistance still effects him, thus we have to take into account drag. Sqrt( [ma^2 * v^2 - 2aF]/m) was my result. This actually reveals some interesting features of his velocity changes. Along with lower and upper bounds to where his mass changes allow him to move. (62kg, 13.8889m/s, store 25%) > (18.279 m/s) I am having trouble finding an equation for the maximum possible velocity given his initial mass and velocity. But here are some examples. I am assuming a base 62kg for Waxillium, a surface area for drag of 0.95 m/s, air density of 1.225, and a Drag Coefficent of 1.15 (62kg, 13.8889m/s) > (248.811 m/s at a = 30.981, or 2kg) [13.8889 is average car speed] (62kg, 1 m/s) > (18.98 m/s at a = 32.208) (62kg, e m/s) > (49.623 m/s at a = 31.374) The formula for the points in which your speed just hits 0 are 2F/mv^2. This sets an upper and lower bound to how much you can store and have an effect, furthermore, past these peak points, ones velocity begins to decrease as one stores more into a metalmind. Formula with Terminal Velocity should be obvious, it is a simple modification which comes out as: Sqrt({2[1/a * m]g} / pAc) This one has no inherent limitations, and can increase and decrease without limit. The fact that there is a limit to the degree in which you can speed up through changing mass does actually fit with what Brandon said in this WoB: (actually can one find the one I am thinking of, can't find it, but he did mention you can't just store a crapton of weight and go extremely fast) Well here is this one for now: https://wob.coppermind.net/events/40/#e692 Another thing of note with this, is that while this preserves momentum, it increases kinetic energy. Which I would assume would have to come from somewhere. As I understand it. But we do know that Feruchemy isn't truly End-Neutral (https://wob.coppermind.net/events/2/#e171), it takes a bit of energy from the Spiritual Realm. Maybe this energy is able to give them more of a shove. Note: Image below assumes mass of 1kg, and initial velocity of 1m/s. This is just because this way it is smaller and looks nicer.

IIRC, it is explained it doesn't kill them because it has the organs move away from the spike. Shaping around it.

I personally disagree, as we know that different Investitures have different Tones, as Shards are Investiture, and Shards have Tones. Therefore, I feel that the way Navani made Anti-Investiture can be extrapolated to any Shard's Investiture as long as you know the Tone. We don't really have reason to believe they wouldn't, IMO.

Yup, all Shards do have a Tone. It isn't just a Roshar thing. Brandon has also said that Rhythms are a Cosmere-wide phenomenon. They are just most prevalent and strong on Roshar, for reasons we don't know yet.

This just makes me think, I wonder what it would be like if you un-key Investiture from any tone, and then get 16 peoples to sing the Tones of different Shards at the same time, wonder what the Investiture born would be like.

From what I heard it is gonna have Skar and Drehy as big characters, and be written before 5. Feels like it makes most sense given all of that, it would be about what happened during Book 4 when he went to the Horneater Peaks. So it doesn't mean that he is still alive by the time Skar and Drehy return. I don't think he is dead, I was just saying that he still could be. Also, can't wait for more info on the Unkalaki tongue, we have quite a bit, and can make a bunch of assumptions on grammer. But want to see more, and also get more words in general. Would make sense to as we are likely gonna get that in Book 5 for the Shin, and they are related tongues. And maybe an explanation for why they seem to be named after Kalak.

Still doesn't explain the lack of a t, only replaced the W.

But it wouldn't be a true Ketek if you don't have a T at the end, otherwise it wouldn't be a palindrome, just almost one.

I do feel that it is probably not gonna be the happiest of endings. Mistborn spoilers, spoiled just in case.

I can't wait until we get the projection type that the Cognitive Realm uses. hope to goodness it isn't Mercator

We now know the likely name and So it will start with Knights of and most likely be Knights of Woeful Truth as of now

We now know the likely name and So it will start with Knights of and most likely be Knights of Woeful Truth as of now

Well, Soulcasting Fabrials do require the use of Stormlight in order to allow them to keep working. So it does mean it can't work infinitely, and requires it to have it keep on having Investiture applied to keep it functioning. And as an additional note, I wonder how the placement of orbital bodies works in the Cognitive Realm.

Ehh, given that we're told it hurt all Roshar, I don't think the connection is particularly close or significant. Well, we know Sibling is basically the child of the light of Honor and Cultivation, and also, as seen in another thread Ba is related to Bah, meaning child Ado is close to Adoda, meaning light Mishram is close to Mishim, the Moon of Cultivation, and also seems to have the -ram, of Maram, meaning Honor. Sando did give credence to this Maybe Ba-Ado-Mishram is like a Proto-Sibling that was later corrupted and Unmade by Odium. She does seem closely connected with the Singers, who we know were previously on the side of Honor and Cultivation. So likely, Ba-Ado-Mishram was created before the Sibling, when Honor and Cultivation defected to humanity, Mishram chose to stay with the Singers, and thus joined with Odium. Also Well, if we do take Mythica seriously She was definitely amongst the higher ranking of the Unmade, it appears. Well, she did seem to. She had a great effect on the Sibling, and also Definitely had a large effect on Spren.

Yeah, we know it can melt, but also liquid Investiture doesn't act like a normal melted metal, which would be far thicker and more viscous. We also see both solid and liquid, and even solid and gaseous, forms of the same Investiture exist in the same area, which hints they are not based on temperature, which is further proven by WoB. But we do know God Metals can be made into alloys, which means they must be melted. This also makes us question of what happens if you freeze gaseous Investiture (Deposition), like, how would solid Stormlight differ from Tanavastium? So I just wonder what exactly is the deeper meaning behind the forms the Investiture takes.

I have been wondering on the different forms of Physical Investiture, and the way they work. I am wondering what theories others have, or if I missed some vital WoB. Basically, we know that Investiture can take on Physical, Liquid, and Gaseous forms. And we know that these are not based upon temperature, but things such as density and initial conditions. But we know that God Metals can melt, as by WoB, and by the presence of God Metal Alloys. But I am wondering, would a melted God Metal have the same properties as the Investiture when it takes on liquid as its initial form. Same with if you somehow vaporize a God Metal. Like, would vaporized Shardblade act the same as normal Stormlight? Or would it have different properties due to different initial forms and conditions. I am wondering on others theories, and if they can share them here, and if they can sometime ask it of Brandon next signing or stream or something.

I mean, again We know they are canonically the best order at Transportation. Willshapers can do it, but they are known to be less skilled with it than Elsecallers.

I mean, you do also have ones with known primary Surges, such as Edgedancers with Progression, and Elsecallers with Transportation. These are made quite obvious in canon with how it was with all the old Knights Radiants. So it does still exist to an extent.

I am working on breaking down the Unkalaki language and trying to relate some of it to what we know about the Dawnchant, and the even less we know about the Shin Language. I would be grateful for assistance. Unkalaki: Phonology: In terms of Vowels, we can see that they are shown ratehr simply, and we have a clear depiction of when vowels are seperated, for the most part, with them being seperated by a '. As seen in ali'i'kamura, this means we can quite easily see why digraphs are, and long vowels. We can see in alaii'iku that long vowels likely exist, with it seeming to depict a long ai dipthong. Or, if I am wrong, could mean a-ii or even just ai-i. It is hard to tell in text alone. In terms of digraphs we have ua, au, and ai. Otherwise it appears to follow a simple five vowel system. We know that the Horneater tongue is very heavily based on Polynesian tongues, so I am going to assume this is based on Maori, which has very similar orthography. So assume that au is a dipthong, but ua is pronounced as u-a. It also appears to have an alternate vowel signified by ay seen in Mohoray In consonants, we know it has b, v, f, m, p, n, h, r, l, k, and c. Due to the already existing presence of k, and the lack of an s, it is most likely the c is meant to represent some form of fricative. Likely the voiceless alveolar fricative. Though could possibly be ð, as it represents in Fijian, an Malayo-Polynesian language. But the s reading is more likely. Phonotactics allow for clusters of rt (umarti'a), lk (tuma'alki), lm (Tuaka'li'na'calmi'nor) and also h'l, though this, while common, is always broken up. The language otherwise actively tries to avoid consonant clusters, it also appears to have little to no codas, and always tends towards open syllables. The only consonants that seem to be allowed to end a coda are r and l, seen in Hotental, Lunamor, Tuaka'li'na'calmi'nor. Even the things that seem to be clusters ultimately also have an r or l. Therefore we must be also open to the possibility these are not clusters, but are rather closed syllables placed right before the consonant onset of another syllable. This would explain why all examples of these "clusters" are ones that have a consonant that is known to be one of the few consonants that are allowed to act as a coda. This, I feel, is the more likely possibility. Grammer: We can make out that the language is highly agglutinative, with various affixes appended to a root word in order to change the meaning or encode more information into it. Mafah'liki for example has "liki" which cord told us is "of mind". It also contains "mafah" which is extremely similar to "malah" which is one of the words in the Dawnchant excerpt that we have. This means that we can tell that it works through the appending of suffixes. Through the way that various Unkalaki speak, we can expect that it is a language that has a heavy presence of linguistic gender, using masculine and thus most likely also feminine in pronouns, and applying it to even inanimate objects. "take everything you have, and put him in pot", this likely also suggests the lack of a definite grammatical article. Extra Note: Lunu'anaki is the god of travel and mischief who cannot hurt man, Hoid. "You're crazy! You're ana'kai crazy." this could mean that the anaki in the name is related to being crazy, or that ana'kai comes from Lunu'anaki. Or they are unrelated and ana'kai means something like f-cking or whatever. Shin: Phonology: The Shin have seem to developed into a far more consonant heavy language than Unkalaki, as we can mainly see in names, Szeth Thresh-son-Esan Neturo-son-Vallano Shauka-daughter-Hasweth Ali-daughter-Hasweth Shubreth-son-Mashalan They appear to retain the au present in Unkalaki, or they possibly both developed it before splitting, or even independently, if not present in the original Dawnchant tongue. They posses various consonants not shown in Unkalaki, such as Th, Sh, Z, and W. They are also much more accepting of consonant clusters. Seen in Hasweth, Shubreth, and Thresh. These all appear to be using a glide following a consonant. With it only happening with r and w as far as we can see. That is outside of Szeth, which is sub-vocalized. Grammer: Dawnate:

I was confused and such when Sibling began creating Light too, as it contradicted what we know. But I feel it works as in like, we know that Urithiru was built on the "place closest to Honor", therefore is likely close to a Perpendicularity, or something. Therefore it can use this to be able to help to draw in Stormlight. Not entirely sure about Lifelight, but it obviously comes from somewhere. But, as you yourself mentioned, it is close to the Nightwatcher as well, which is an extremely life-dense area. It might contain another Perpendicularity of Cultivation. This would make sense, as we do also know that Felt says that in the Valley, you are completely at the mercy of the power of the Nightwatcher (and Cultivation), so it is very possible it is a secondary Perpendicularity. I thought that that might be the Dawnshard, but Mraize should know that it is real and has been found, so he wouldn't talk of it like it is a completely myth like this. It might have to do with Ba-ado-mishram. On this part, I thought this was the case before, Regrowth fits perfectly with Cultivation's Intent. Also, on why they have it, I noticed that if you look at the glyphs for the different Lights, the ones for Cultivation and Odium are very, very similar, while the one for Honor is very divergent. Some connection between Cultivation and Odium seems to run rather deep. They should be able to, Chromium allows for the storage of Fortune, which we know can allow one to see into the future if used correctly. The Terris in general don't really understand this, but as a Worldhopper it is very possible Axindweth is far more knowing of the more deep nature of her abilities. One thing I do wonder, is that Cultivationspren seem to be closest to Cultivation, they refer to her as mother, share a name (much like Honorspren with Honor), and also do have access to Progression. The issue is, it is their Secondary Surge, while Abrasion is their first. Though Edgedancers are also known as being focused healers. It is just odd that the primary surge of the Honorspren is the Surge of Honor, but the Secondary Surge of the Cultivationspren is the Surge of Cultivation. However, this doesn't exactly contradict the idea, everything else fits together, Edgedancers are very connected to healing, and also Lift, and Edgedancer, is the one given the ability to use Lifelight by Cultivation. Along with this, it kinda seems as if primary surge shifts direction at the bottom half in general, For example, Elsecallers, on the bottom half, seem to have Transportation be their primary Surge, despite the pattern making it seem as if it should be Transformation. Though this pattern does not appear to apply to Dustbringers, who seem to have the primary surge follow the pattern of the top half. I need to look more into this.

Don't recall Khriss showing up directly. Shashara, and Denth we know didn't appear on screen. I don't recall Khriss showing up, just being mentioned in images, and also in Ars Archanum, but I don't count that. But yeah, I forgot about Mraize, Iyatil, Gereh, and Axindweth; not sure how I forgot about them. Also can you show the Shai WoB? I read WoBs all the time, but don't recall that.