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  1. I really like this art style for plate, it really fits my mental image.
  2. I would find it odd for the Stormfather, whose whole resistance to Dalinar is, especially in RoW, is predicated around the idea that spren are unchanging, to suddenly change his approach to bonding.
  3. That rant he goes on after he says a Herald has died really reminds me of how Fuzz acted. His manifestation is also really weird to me. A... ᴀ Hᴇʀᴀʟᴅ ʜᴀs ᴅɪᴇᴅ. Nᴏ, I'ᴍ ɴᴏᴛ ʀᴇᴀᴅʏ. Tʜᴇ Oᴀᴛʜᴘᴀᴄᴛ... Nᴏ! Tʜᴇʏ ᴍᴜsᴛɴ'ᴛ sᴇᴇ! Tʜᴇʏ ᴍᴜsᴛɴ'ᴛ ᴋɴᴏᴡ! Ok this really sounds like someone's been hiding from the Heralds. And it makes me really lean towards the Tanavast. But then again Odium seems positive they killed him and to the ability to hide from everyone so thoroughly, he would have to be absolutely cracked considering he's only a dead god.
  4. If it's Kaladin or anyone from bridge four they would have to be a Ascended or a cognitive shadow. Brandon says that this is fairly far into the cosmere timeline. "Moderately far into the cosmere's future."
  5. Well at least you get to be happy, unfortunately I hate such endings with a passion. This just ain't storming fair.
  6. " Storms it couldn't be, it couldn't... he walked further haunted by what he might find, worried that he was going mad yet desperate to know. Could it... "Kal?". " Well this doesn't bode well.
  7. I'm hoping for the herald route, that he'll take Jezrien's place one way or another. I honestly don't know if Kaladin will die in book 5, it feels both unlikely and possible at the same time. What I will say is having Kaladin die in the 5th book feels like the worst possible direction that could be taken. Kaladin turned his corner and got a good 10 days of being free from guilt and his suicidal thoughts, so now he can die. And the readers can be happy to know that he turned that corner before he passed into the beyond. It would almost feel mocking, Kaladin has finally reached a place where he can step away and work on himself only for him to die. But you can't die while you're struggling, because you still have a character arc and it's super compelling.
  8. I probably should've clarified that. When I said I didn't care I was referring to this: Adolin and the moments you discussed were not ones I feel particular passion for, but I do disagree with how you presented their similarities to things that happen in RoW. I was trying to say was that Adolin and my feelings for the character are not why I disagreed with you. I dont care one way or the other what other people feel for the characters in the story.
  9. I don't really care I want you to explain. The visions are what start Dalinar's path to becoming better than the other High Princes but they see it as Dalinar weakening. The visions make him question his and the Alethi actions on the Shattered Plains. Adolin's doubts center around the sanity of his father and his ability to lead their house. What Adolin want's is for Dalinar to go back to the blackthorn and lead their house. We see this when Dalinar tries to step down from being high prince. However throughout WoK's Adolin comes around to Dalinar's way of thinking when Sadeas betrays them. He's proud that Dalinar tried to be better than the other High Princes. In RoW Dalinar is not self doubting, in fact he seems more sure of himself than ever before and because of this he pushes Adolin to standards he doesn't want to uphold. Adolin's conflict in WoKs was not about his fathers dark impulses and past but about his mind. In WoKs Dalinar is never truly critical of Adolin like he is in RoW. Adolin's conflict in RoW is not about Dalinar's sanity but about trying to become his own person. Unlike in WoKs Adolin does not come around to his father's way of thinking. "He knew Dalinar had been a different man then, a man not in his right mind, betrayed, consumed by the power of one of the unmade...One could know these things without feeling them. And this wasn't something you forgave." "Adolin loved his father, even now with everything he had learned about what Dalinar had done. Even with that event. He loved his father." "I don't represent you anymore father. I'm a high prince, I represent myself." "I know that's the person you really are...Do not let my failings drive you to rebel against what you know is right merely because it is what I wish of you." "It's about you again. I cant have an opinion or make choices I'm only acting like this because of your influence." "Maybe incredible though it may seem, there are more than two choices in life. I'm not you, but that doesn't mean I'm Taravangian. Maybe I'm my own brand of wrong." "I love him but can't yet forgive him. I think I will, with time. There's more though. Straining out relationship. He has this misguided notion that I've always been better than him. To father I'm some pristine remnant of my mother-this noble little statue who got all of her goodness and none of his coarseness. He doesn't want me to be me, or even him. He wants me to be this imagined child who was born better than he ever could be." The conflict in WoKs is about Dalinar, the conflict in RoW is about Adolin. OB: Unplanned arrival in shadesmar Shallan uses magic to travel the ocean to an island. Have to quickly move through the island as Kaladin is attracting anger spren. Travel south because Azure knows about light houses there. Kaladin touches orb during highstrom and gets a vision and disagrees with the others about where they should go. They make arrangements with this man and secure a boat. Arrive at Celebrant and exchange what they can and try to find another ship. Fused track down Adolin and the gang. Syl reveals her identity to the crew of Honor's Path and they all flee on it from the Fused. Eventually Fused converge on the Honor's Path. They abandon the ship and travel under the ocean with Shallan's power to an island. They make their way across this island on foot to the oath gates trying to avoid getting notived by Fused. When they arrive at the oath gate they find it guarded. They make a plan to fight the Fused. The plan goes poorly and Kaladin tries and fails to say an ideal. They get saved by an outside force, Dalinar, not within shadesmar They all make it back to the physical realm, their destination. RoW: Planned diplomatic journey. They already have a method of traveling across the ocean secured. Shallan discovers that there's a traitor among her 'court' of Lightweavers. They stop at the Freelands as a planned part of the journey. Make their way along the coast to Lasting Integrity. They notice the Tukari slowly following them. Adolin notices how badly Shallan is doing and takes her to see a Star Spren. Tukari turn back after a few days. Go back to fight with the Tukari to save Notum. Then continue on their way to Lasting Integrity. Get denied entry to their goal. Adolin decides to put himself up for trail to get in, the honor spren agree. Only Adolin, Shallan and Pattern make it to their destination. Adolin, Kaladin and Shallan with a few other sneak into the Kholinar. In Lasting Integrity no stealth is used. He goes right up to the front gate announces who he is a requests to face trail for the sins of past Radiants. Adolin goes to someone he knows personally in Kholinar. Within Lasting Integrity there is no such person. He and Shallan are given rooms. Adolin has to learn honor spren trail law. Adolin doesn't go through any formal educational process during Kholinar. Adolin gets put on trail in Lasting Integrity, this doesn't happen in Kholinar. Adolin portrayal within Kholinar is one of competence. In Lasting Integrity Adolin is seen as naïve and an idiot. And unlike in Kholinar his actions do not disprove anyone's opinion of him. During his trial he can barely sway any spren until Notum and Maya speak up for Adolin or defend themselves. Adolin and Kaladin lead the battle through the palace to get to the oath gates. Shallan 'fends' off the Unmade and they use the oath gates to escape. They fail in their mission to secure Kholinar and Elhokar dies. In Lasting Integrity Adolin succeeds in his mission to encourage more honor spren to bond people. These are different scenarios with different outcomes.
  10. Adolin had trouble trusting his father's judgment due to what he thought was madness. Adolin's current issues are that his dad KILLLED his mother. How are these the same? "I read your book, you killed mother." "Adolin I have proved myself time and time again that I am not mad." These are two wholly separate issues. How else were they going to get to Lasting Integrity? Just teleport? Oh but I guess that's a rehash of the oath gates huh. Adolin fight's against a group of people? The only two similarities is that Adolin gets some assistance and its against a superior force. Its like saying Kaladin fighting with a spear is a rehash of when he first used a quart staff against Jost. How oh how oh how is Lasting Integrity a rehash of Kholinar? They aren't even remotely similar.
  11. So I'm assuming, because Preservation put more of itself into the souls of mankind that they created only it can hear thoughts. While Ruin, who put less in cannot, right?
  12. I'm a little confused about how Kelsier can read the thoughts of people after his ascension. I thought shards didn't have that ability no matter what. I think I have misunderstood something, but there is another instance that seemed to confirm Shards could not read peoples minds in SA. "He could hear their thoughts like voices." "'Remember yourself' Marsh's thoughts whispered." <- this is what Kelsier hears. "The boy's thoughts drifted to Kelsier..." Also because I was thinking about making a post just for this anyway: Fuzz needs more appreciation.
  13. Just a thought I had, but it was mentioned that Rand's mind was more corrupted by the taint than any other Nynaeve had seen and Rand body switches with Moridin at the end. But wouldn't Moridin's brain be in an even worse state than Rand's given how liberally he used the True Power. Or is the poisoning done to the soul then manifests within the mind. But then wouldn't Rand's mind still be tainted? I don't remember but it isn't ever explained what the light stuff within Rand's head was either. I kind of remember his mentioning that the protection on his mind wouldn't last forever, but then again it has been awhile and my brain might be making up things. Ok so this is a little messy but essentially, why is Rand's soul/brain ok after the body switch?
  14. The moments we do get with Jasnah help me like her a lot more, weirdly enough. In WoKs there are some heavy implications for the things that Jasnah has been through in the past, I forgot which chapter but I think it was when Shallan notes how she talks about men, and again in OB. She mentions being locked in a dark room and screaming because they thought she was insane and also because her parents are not the greatest. (I love Navani but she really stormed up there. Honestly its says a lot about Jasnah caring nature that she still cried for her father and clearly loves her mother.) The Renarin scene is another great moment for her. She gets to choose between the world or her family and she picked family. (Insert F&F meme here). Another good scene that helps humanize her is that she just kills three bandits instead of using her influence to investigate the street and arresting them. This is something she did that I disagreed with fundamentally but you end up running in circles when you try to say what she did was 100% wrong. She knows what she's about however, I don't agree with how certain she is about her actions. It makes her feel more real to me as, people often challenge you in the places where you least expect differences. If that makes any sense. I would have more problems if I didn't know she was going to be a POV in the back 5 but I'm content on being somewhat distant from her character atm because she isn't the focus yet. I forgot, I love this little detail and it is always brought up. The mutual respect between Jasnah and Dalinar is great. Though I don't really like how Dalinar complains in his head about how Jasnah handled Ruthar. However, I think apart of this is how much closer Dalinar is getting to Honor and him over-reacting to other people, like Adolin, because he fears for the worst possible outcome of him reverting to how he was. The medicine is another small detail, that helps me like her as well. We see how busy she is but she still finds time to make medicine for people.
  15. I don't believe that is possible as the amount of anti-stormlight that would require would be monstrous. I can see him dying in a way once Dalinar falls but I don't think he'll die to anti-stormlight.
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