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  1. To expand on idea of Dawnshard Stability, I gravitate towards this arrangement: Change: Ruin, Cultivation, Invention (this one seems standard) Stability: Preservation, Autonomy, Endowment (saving what ones has, being self-sufficient, inherited constant) Motivation: Odium, Ambition, Dominion, Devotion (why one does something -> because one hates, wants to becomes someone, wants to control, loves) Virtue: Honor, Valor, Mercy, Whimsy (ideals to uphold) So potential shard Wisdom could go to Stability. To comment a bit about my choices, Dawnshard Change would the means of action. Stability would be what the action should not affect. Motivation would give the reason for action. And lastly Virtue would how the action should be performed. So I guess that Dawnshard Stability was on lunch break when shattering happened.
  2. Well, I think the resulotion that no other memories of Hoid were erased other than his last few minutes is boring. Maybe it will be what really happened but I doubt it. In epilogue, Odium says that he can "see these" when refering to memories, so @Weltall you may be right. I would not presume that it was the only reason for his actions, but anyway, once he looks into those memories, why wouldn't Odium try to influnce Hoid in someway? Taravangian can plan long term and is resourceful, hence, I think he would try to use this opportunity. But still, in those Breaths were memories that Hoid chose to put there. So there is possibility that he could still manipulate Odium to delete some of them. As @Stefano mentioned, Design was sent away before their meeting, maybe allowing for sticking some Breath with other memories with him. That would explain why Hoid is having issues with his perfect pitch as he needs to reunite with those breath to reach necessary Heightening. The Breaths shouldn't be destroyed as when Vasher did this, the girls Breath just flickered.
  3. But do we know that Odium knows what was in the memories that he destroys? It seems like to me that he does not know what was in the memories. I think that he had an option of "formating" Breaths that hold the memories without "reading the files" on them. The other possibility which supports your position is that Odium knew what he was erasing, but after he finished, he lost the memories. But we did not see memories work this way as far as I know. With copperminds, one loses the memories as one puts then in metal, but that seems different that erasing somebodies elses memories. In above WoB, Brandon mentions that the action was similar to one in the other book. That is most likely, Vasher in Warbreaker when he makes little girl forget her kidnapping. We do not know how that precisly works, but it seems that it was internal thing that happened in her mind.
  4. I never thought that cryptics allow for restoration of lost memories. I would guess that Hoid does not want to show Design to Odium, but the fact that he is a radiant is common knowledge so I guess the reason is different from not revealing him. Maybe Odium could do something to Design.
  5. Maybe some shardblades ended up being taken away from Roshar? Not sure how one can do that, but maybe if you bond blade and then move off Roshar, the bond is not broken and you can summon it once you are back from cognitive realm. From what I understand, there is no known way to bring shardplate into cognitive realm, so It may be much harder to move it off world as you cannot dismiss and summon it.
  6. It is hard to say what Hoid planned, we know that he manipulates fortune to know where to go, but not necessarily why he should go there. In RoW Hoid "makes" many mistakes, having hordling as pen, having memories destroyed. Previously it seemed like he was usually few steps ahead, so maybe there is more to those errors. In stormlight, Hoids seems like a really nice guys, he aids Kal, Shallan in their moments of need, he shares his knowledge with Dalinar and Jasnah. But on Sel he stole scepter and let Shai be captured, he attacked and refused to aid Kelsier with any information and then took bead of lerasium. I wonder if he does similar things on Roshar too but this time offscreen. My main issue with him letting Odium destroy his memories is that he could probably do it himself with use of Breath of some soul stamping. Unless his inability to harm others also makes him unable to alter himself in this manner. Before he picks Design up, he provokes others to harm him to make his disguise work better. Maybe he does that not only for show, but because that is the only way he can do that to himself.
  7. After reading epilogue I thought that there is strong possibility that more memories than the ones of his first dialogue with Odium were destroyed. It is hard to guess what could it be as we do not know most things that Hoid witnesses but I will try. How about memories of relationship with Jasnah? Maybe he even wanted those memories gone to help him move towards his next objectives after "holding" Odium on Roshar with Dalinar's contract?
  8. I think that the dawnshard connected to Preservation is Stability. From Hero of Ages: That is Sazed when touching Preservation power. Similarly, we have later: this one is about Ruin. So "power of ..." seems to be referring to dawnshard name.
  9. Is that true? In the text I have not seen confirmation nor in WoBs. For speaking what is in character of Lord Ruler, I would say that he is indifferent about other people. I do not see any good reason why he would keep Mare for few weeks and then sent her to the pits. It seems kind of cruel, but in weird manipulating and psychological way, which just does not feel to me like Lord Ruler. He is not a nice fellow, but he seems straightforward. I guess he could be manipulated be Ruin/Preservation to do it. One other argument that speaks about possibility of kandra action is the reference to her body being taken from him. So we do not know where her bones are. I do not think it is a strong argument, but that is something.
  10. So I was wondering why was Mare sent to the pits? It does not make much sence, allomancer like her should be converted to hemalurgic spike in final empire. I think that there is a strong possibility that Mare in the pits is a Kandra, I would guess Paalm. There would be quite few similarities with what happened to Waxillium, espeacialy if the kandra was indeed Paalm. Both Kel and Wax were away from Luthadel \ Elendel and were watched by Paalm and then finally her "death" would make them what they needed to became for Preservation and Ruin \ Harmony. Time between Kelsier's and Mare's arrival at the pits could be because she was tortured, killed in process of creating a spike and then her bones would by taken by kandra. Other possibility would be that, she was taken before, and her bones were used by kandra to lure Kelsier to be caught. This would then make sense with why Lord Ruler thanked her, as she was his loyal kandra. The weakest link in this theory is the reason why kandra would be sent to the pits. Maybe there was some influence of Preservation to make Kelsier to what he needed him to become, as we know that he played some role in his snapping, as was mentioned in secret history. Would love to read what you think about this
  11. I have seen on the forum some speculation about Kaladin's 5th ideal, it was said that if you model 5th ideals by Nale's of becaming the law, then becaming "protection" would fit with becoming herald to protect Roshar by sealing some old spren on Braize. I do not claim that oathpact is a geat idea, but that does not mean that it will not be consider as solution, because it works at sealing fused. Preservation also had to sacrifice much to imprison Ruin, but I guess it was worth to save Scandrial. Ishar wants to reset oathpact: I think this along with Dalinar mission to visit him with Kal and knowing Ishar to be quite verse in manipulating Connection, there will be something interesting happening. Because of strong connection of number 10 to whole Rosharian system, I would guess that you need 10 heralds for it to work good enough. Hence the idea of putting Kal in there. As we miss herald connected to Windrunners. Maybe not full fix, but major improvement to oathpact would be to swap Heralds on Braize before they brake. Not sure how to do that, but we know that not all Heralds are neccesary to keep desolation from occuring, but somehow, when one of them "breaks" then all return... so it seems that change in their number messes things. The obvious solution is to swap then fast enough that the "fuse that counts # of heralds" doesn't notice.
  12. My reasoning is that Ishar said that there is a way to "reset" the Oathpact. So how one does that? I would guess that maybe it requires adding one to remaining 9 heralds so that Lift can count them will all her fingers. So if that is true, then the question shifts to whom could we put in that role? Jezrien could fly and stick things together, so can Kaladin. Jezrien was a patron of Windrunners, and now the closest thing to that is again Kal. Jezrien was suppost to be great leader, Herald of Kings. Kaladin can lead, he can inspire where there is little to none hope, so some could call him a great leader too. So now, if Kal adopts Shalash then he will be prime candidate to burn on Braize for eternity to Protect all the crabs on Roshar.
  13. So how about Ishar or Dalinar figure out that connecting some lucky individual to oathpact would fix some isues, and then they look at Kaladin and see Jezrien 2.0? Any thoughts?